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I wouldn't even remotely compare Kris to [you], that nigga's closer to porky earthbound post heel turn in terms of evil.
Kid was seriously like "haha yeah bro lets prank our dad with fucking poisonus flowers in the cake haha it'll be so epic lmao".
There's one thing both Kris and Chara have in common and it's that they both would have grown up to be one of those """prankster""" youtubers. You know the ones. :story:

Either that or Kris would become one of those retarded 3AM youtubers or something equally stupid.
 
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it features mystical trans goddesses and anti-cap politics.
If you see mother 3 like this unironically and non jokingly you're too deep in the eternal current year dogma and need a break from a lot of everything.
 
Maybe I'm remembering wrong but it wasn't a "prank" the dipshits mixed up the actual flowers they were supposed to use with poisonous ones.
But Chara just kind of laughed about it.

Everyone likes to cope and claim "Ooh they were just laughing about it as a coping mechanism!" uhhhh I'm not too sure laughing at the fact that your father is literally dying is a very typical coping mechanism. :story: Honestly from what little we're told about Chara paints them as at best a sociopath of some kind.

Kris is what would have happened if they were allowed to live to be a teenager.
It's honestly kind of surprising that Kris and Asriel have a good relationship considering Chara's relationship with Asriel seemed mostly toxic from what we're told. (Pretty sure Asriel mentions how Chara would basically bully him and fuck with him a lot. Might be misremembering.)
Chara was a chuuni shithead who brought a plague (anime) to the monsters. Naturally, Kris grew up the same way but lived long enough to grow out of it and hasn't gotten over the cringe he feels in his SOUL when he remembers how he used to act, especially when it starts to resurface. Hence the knife scene in the church.
 
Chara was a chuuni shithead who brought a plague (anime) to the monsters.
I mean shit if you go back to Asriel at the end of UT, doesn't he pretty much straight up tell you he's finally realised "Chara wasn't a good person"?

One thing I am wondering is, if we'll meet DR Chara in CH5.
 
I mean shit if you go back to Asriel at the end of UT, doesn't he pretty much straight up tell you he's finally realised "Chara wasn't a good person"?
I think he says "Chara wasn't the best person", though that line is quite open to interpretation.
Early on, fans treated Chara as an irredeemable evil spirit who bullied Asriel, pressured him into enacting her plan when he clearly didn't want to for the sake of revenge against humanity and, in death, possesses/pressures Frisk into killing everyone in order to take his SOUL, basically Demon Hitler. The Narrator Chara theory became popular at some point, which states the flavour text we see throughout the game when inspecting objects is actually Chara's narration and that she learns from Frisk/the player's actions as to how to see the world. Chara doesn't make you do a genocide run, but learns from it that the world and it's inhabitants are just toys to be played around with. Not sure if there were any different interpretations of the character past that point, apart from the rape pirates.
 
It's honestly kind of surprising that Kris and Asriel have a good relationship considering Chara's relationship with Asriel seemed mostly toxic from what we're told.
I mean there is also the age difference. Chara and Asriel were more or less the same age whereas Kris is in highschool and Asriel is off at college.

Kris being a little shit has less of an impact on an older sibling than one of the same age.
 
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I think he says "Chara wasn't the best person", though that line is quite open to interpretation.
Sometimes I feel like Undertale fans brains are fried in a way that makes it hard for them to interpret certain statements correctly.
Like when people take Sans' statement about Toriel laughing about one of his jokes like she hadn't laughed in a hundred years as some kind of literal statement when discussing a possible UT timeline. Y'know instead of a fucking metaphorical statement like it probably is?

I'm pretty sure most people will at best interpret a statement like that as "Chara was kind of a dick."
Not sure if there were any different interpretations of the character past that point, apart from the rape pirates.
Nowadays from what I seen Chara is a complete dindu nuffin where if you even so much as hint that they have any bad traits you will get dogpiled by retards screeching at you. At least in my experience I've had a couple of idiots try to start fights with me over it.
That being said it's really funny when you decide to just walk away from the discussion because you have better things to do and they take that as a victory. :story:
People definitely do care about these games a little too much. Actually no, not a little. People absolutely care about these games too fucking much.
 
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Undertale trannies gravitate to Mother 3 because it features mystical trans goddesses and anti-cap politics.
Spoilers for a now 18-year-old game but the funny thing about the mystical trans goddesses is that they're normal. They're just dudes in drag or at least that's what they act like. That's the joke. The only one of them who violently rebels against the drag, dresses extremely conservatively and constantly leans on high-tech body modification to turn himself into a 'more perfect form' is an insane sociopathic asshole who winds up mutating himself beyond recognition and everyone else just kinda looks at him and goes 'yeah he got sucked along with what the crowd was telling him would make him feel better, it's really sad'.

I'm constantly amused that none of the trans crowd ever comments on that given how they read shit into everything else.
 
Spoilers for a now 18-year-old game but the funny thing about the mystical trans goddesses is that they're normal. They're just dudes in drag or at least that's what they act like. That's the joke.
It's that thing about how they see cross-dressers as a joke, not to be taken seriously. Troons ignore that or seethe, depending on the circumstances.

he only one of them who violently rebels against the drag, dresses extremely conservatively and constantly leans on high-tech body modification to turn himself into a 'more perfect form' is an insane sociopathic asshole
Said fairy (they're all also fairies, both of the supernatural and the gay kind) is also a Muslim lookalike who enjoys torturing animals for fun*. Definitely a non-PC character.

*He also enjoys eating bananas, which could be used to make a cheap joke.
 
If you see mother 3 like this unironically and non jokingly you're too deep in the eternal current year dogma and need a break from a lot of everything.
I haven't played M3 twice in 18 years so excuse my shit post. I do know Earthbound fan work has been pozzed by (delta)trunes, who seem to prefer the Mother 3 art style to Mother 2.
 
What if chapter 5 is another filler chapter like 3
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By the way, Tomato (translator) is an old school greasy nerd and doesn't play that gay shit, and neither does Itoi. So the rainbow cult are trying to hijack something cool as always.
Well on second thought, M2 Tony did seem really attached to Jeff in a weird way. So, whatever. Jeff didn't seem to care much.
 
Like when people take Sans' statement about Toriel laughing about one of his jokes like she hadn't laughed in a hundred years as some kind of literal statement when discussing a possible UT timeline. Y'know instead of a fucking metaphorical statement like it probably is?
To be fair, monsters are borderline immortal and only grow old if they have children, which is only kinda explained.

She could actually have not laughed in a hundred years lmao.
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