Undertale / Deltarune / Toby Fox Discussion

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Can someone explain why the troons are pissing their pants over Napstablook being referred to as a dude? I'm aware of the kris is non-binary delusion but I don't understand why this is a big deal, I'm pretty sure he said Napstablook is inspired by a friend of his who is a guy so it makes sense that he's a man.
 
GratsTheat783 said:
Are there any Undertale AUs you like?
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Tbh, only Undertale Yellow, because it's a pretty good fangame

However, there has been a Deltarune AU where I have watched some videos called "Deltarune Rewritten", it's a basic swap AU, but the team behind it is putting a very big effort in making things good.



I guess I just like things who have a lot of effort into lol.
 
Sap said:
Can someone explain why the troons are pissing their pants over Napstablook being referred to as a dude? I'm aware of the kris is non-binary delusion but I don't understand why this is a big deal, I'm pretty sure he said Napstablook is inspired by a friend of his who is a guy so it makes sense that he's a man.
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Because it shatters their delusions by reminding them that there are only two genders, and obvious men are men, no matter how many mutilations, and that angers them.
 
Toby is socially smart (that's why he's so good at writing interesting characters), so I wonder why he hasn't realized that pandering to genderspecials is a guaranteed death sentence. It takes one, just one "Trigger warning: ableism, enbyphobia" blueskeet for your career to be over forever

Maybe it's karma for the time he obnoxiously corrected the fangamer guys about Kris being THEY
 
Sap said:
Can someone explain why the troons are pissing their pants over Napstablook being referred to as a dude? I'm aware of the kris is non-binary delusion but I don't understand why this is a big deal, I'm pretty sure he said Napstablook is inspired by a friend of his who is a guy so it makes sense that he's a man.
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The fandom has concluded that all of the ghosts are allegories for trannies because Mettaton was a ghost but he "transitioned" into a new body. No, they do not see the irony of saying the ghosts are all trans.
 
Dumpster dived waifu said:
The fandom has concluded that all of the ghosts are allegories for trannies because Mettaton was a ghost but he "transitioned" into a new body. No, they do not see the irony of saying the ghosts are all trans.
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They also think misgendering fictional characters is equivalent to misgendering them. It's a very childish way of looking at things.
 
I fucking knew it all along. If it was actually intended as a troon metaphor, no way it would've been this strained.
Bowiechads! We won!

E: I think I got confused but I'm still right forever
 
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* SPEAKING OF [[Napstablook]]
* CHAT, DID YOU KNOW THAT HE…
* No, I’m sorry! I’m sorry! I didn’t mean to --
* Additionally there may be mistakes when referring to certain characters but I'm using speech to text so display my program I mean blame my program you see what I mean
 
Activelo said:
Then he pulls up the design document a few hours later that refers to Napstablook as a dude
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Napstablook was never referred to as anything other than a dude from what I remember though? Same with his cousins. Like even in the switch exclusive optional boss where the mad dummy guy posesses the life sized anime girl figurine the face comically distorts into a male "KONO DIO DA" reference., and his logic behind posessing the anime girl figure is solely "it looked cool and could potentially make me stronger" Actually I think the one that was the mad dummy was the only one that wasn't referred to by "he" at any point too, if only because he's an incredibly minor character imbued with the spirit of gutsman's ass.

...Wait, does him being imbued with the ass of gutsman mean that he's the manliest of all the cousins? Oh god oh fuck oh god oh man

Coolio55 said:
I fucking knew it all along. If it was actually intended as a troon metaphor, no way it would've been this strained.
Bowiechads! We won!
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I mean Mettaton's super form was always just anime robot david bowie.

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It's been 10 years and it's freaking me out but it's funny how there are still people that do not notice this.
 
The Lawgiver said:
Napstablook was never referred to as anything other than a dude from what I remember though? Same with his cousins.
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I'm pretty sure the ghosts are only ever referred to by "they" pronouns in the games. There's even a deliberate thing with Mettaton where he's called "they" when he's a ghost, but "he" after he has his robot body.
 
Retarded Weeb said:
I'm pretty sure the ghosts are only ever referred to by "they" pronouns in the games. There's even a deliberate thing with Mettaton where he's called "they" when he's a ghost, but "he" after he has his robot body.
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You should also probably consider the game came out before "they" became some locked in special use pronoun only in casual usage, a rule that not even I'm able to follow because of how nonsensely dogshit it is. I still call everyone they! Fuck you, political class! AAAARGH!
 
The Lawgiver said:
Napstablook was never referred to as anything other than a dude from what I remember though?
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There’s the part in the Mettaton fight where Napstablook calls in and hangs up, and Mettaton says something like “Wait, Bl-… oh… they left.” You could argue he was pretending he didn’t recognize the caller for the audience’s sake, but nah. And the alarm clock dialogue uses they for Napstablook a few times.
 
Two Dollars said:
There’s the part in the Mettaton fight where Napstablook calls in and hangs up, and Mettaton says something like “Wait, Bl-… oh… they left.” You could argue he was pretending he didn’t recognize the caller for the audience’s sake, but nah. And the alarm clock dialogue uses they for Napstablook a few times.
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Ok but this doesn't explain the gutsman connection for his cousin.

Also jesus fuck the shitposts are 18 or more years old now YOUTUBE MEMES ARE LEGAL ADULTS NOW
 
Dumpster dived waifu said:
I don't remember if Gerson is the one that tells you, but someone in the original game did mention it to explain why Toriel and Asgore stopped aging.
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Boss Monsters only age if they have children of their own.

Gerson tells you that after True Pacifist that the Dreemurr's will outlive Frisk because of it.

Going by Noelle's child model being used on the stream i wager that Asriel & Chara died when Noelle was just a toddler.
 
Two Dollars said:
There’s the part in the Mettaton fight where Napstablook calls in and hangs up, and Mettaton says something like “Wait, Bl-… oh… they left.” You could argue he was pretending he didn’t recognize the caller for the audience’s sake, but nah. And the alarm clock dialogue uses they for Napstablook a few times.
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Sounds like standard commie practice of rewriting history to suit their agenda (heh).
The "they" thing became obnoxious past 2015 and more-so these days.
 
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