Why is tricky Tony taking so long to give us a release date? I’m pretty sure the bugtesting is done now and console approval shouldn’t take that long, my guess is that there is a direct coming up and we are being cockblocked by Nintendo again.
Although I am pretty sure that when the announcement happens it won’t be nearly as long as the last wait, since that was for the paid release and this is just an update.
The whole game runes on journalist mode, with everything tied to 30-capped frame rate and a longstanding bug to get it running at 60+ for a significantly faster, smoother experience.
I might be overstating its prevalence, but at least sometimes, playing in fullscreen would let DR (at least the early chapters; I've not played past 2 so they might have fixed it) run at your monitor's refresh rate instead of its locked 30, with an accompanying speed-up of everything.
I might be overstating its prevalence, but at least sometimes, playing in fullscreen would let DR (at least the early chapters; I've not played past 2 so they might have fixed it) run at your monitor's refresh rate instead of its locked 30, with an accompanying speed-up of everything.
That just sounds like a refresh rate/Vsync issue on your PC that sped up the entire game. It took a good amount of reverse-engineering to get Undertale to run at 60 FPS, and as far as I know, no one has done the same for Deltarune despite it being equally moddable.
That just sounds like a refresh rate/Vsync issue on your PC that sped up the entire game. It took a good amount of reverse-engineering to get Undertale to run at 60 FPS, and as far as I know, no one has done the same for Deltarune despite it being equally moddable.
It's definitely a bug - I don't think it's remotely controversial that it ties game logic to frame rate (and, indeed, it's not really the sort of game where doing so is a bad thing outside of the choice of 30 as the target) and it's easy enough to find 2018-era discussion of the issue on a search. I'd assume that what took work was getting Undertale playing as intended at 60 FPS, not running at a higher frame rate in the first place..
does noelle's character strike as weak/underdeveloped for anyone else? if you think about it, noelle's character comes down at these major points:
- gamer girl and glitchunter (toby really?)
- suselle lesbian slop (doesnt count)
- kris backstory
- oh i have a sister called dess
- whatever angel thing going on (not explained at all)
and that's it. really strikes me as bad writing, comparing with characters like susie, gaster, friend and maybe even kris with gerson. the only development that happens is within the weird route, as if noelle as a character exclusively exists for weird route purposes only and nothing else. noelle is more like a darkner then a main character, or a filler background character like jockington or catti. if chapter 5 releases and includes lesbian slop instead of actual character development, my faith in toby would fade away.
It's usually being unable to hit a reasonable frame rate target that gets a game capped to 30. The simplicity just takes away any excuse for it and leads to the game feeling awkward to play, especially in the bullet-hell-lite segments.
does noelle's character strike as weak/underdeveloped for anyone else? if you think about it, noelle's character comes down at these major points:
- gamer girl and glitchunter (toby really?)
- suselle lesbian slop (doesnt count)
- kris backstory
- oh i have a sister called dess
- whatever angel thing going on (not explained at all)
and that's it. really strikes me as bad writing, comparing with characters like susie, gaster, friend and maybe even kris with gerson. the only development that happens is within the weird route, as if noelle as a character exclusively exists for weird route purposes only and nothing else. noelle is more like a darkner then a main character, or a filler background character like jockington or catti. if chapter 5 releases and includes lesbian slop instead of actual character development, my faith in toby would fade away.
does noelle's character strike as weak/underdeveloped for anyone else? if you think about it, noelle's character comes down at these major points:
- gamer girl and glitchunter (toby really?)
- suselle lesbian slop (doesnt count)
- kris backstory
- oh i have a sister called dess
- whatever angel thing going on (not explained at all)
and that's it. really strikes me as bad writing, comparing with characters like susie, gaster, friend and maybe even kris with gerson. the only development that happens is within the weird route, as if noelle as a character exclusively exists for weird route purposes only and nothing else. noelle is more like a darkner then a main character, or a filler background character like jockington or catti. if chapter 5 releases and includes lesbian slop instead of actual character development, my faith in toby would fade away.
does noelle's character strike as weak/underdeveloped for anyone else? if you think about it, noelle's character comes down at these major points:
- gamer girl and glitchunter (toby really?)
- suselle lesbian slop (doesnt count)
- kris backstory
- oh i have a sister called dess
- whatever angel thing going on (not explained at all)
and that's it. really strikes me as bad writing, comparing with characters like susie, gaster, friend and maybe even kris with gerson. the only development that happens is within the weird route, as if noelle as a character exclusively exists for weird route purposes only and nothing else. noelle is more like a darkner then a main character, or a filler background character like jockington or catti. if chapter 5 releases and includes lesbian slop instead of actual character development, my faith in toby would fade away.
Yeah no, earlier in the thread many of the same points were brought up.
It really does feel like Noelle's entire purpose is lesbian slop pandering and not much else. She's in general just a terribly written character. Also you forgot
- Essentially stalks Susie whom she's never interacted with directly prior to game events but wants to fuck her so bad even though she literally doesn't even know her (THIS IS IMPORTANT TO HER CHARACTER I SWEAR - Toby)
Though I guess that might fall under Suselle slop I feel it stands out enough to mention separately.
Yeah no, earlier in the thread many of the same points were brought up.
It really does feel like Noelle's entire purpose is lesbian slop pandering and not much else. She's in general just a terribly written character. Also you forgot
- Essentially stalks Susie whom she's never interacted with directly prior to game events but wants to fuck her so bad even though she literally doesn't even know her (THIS IS IMPORTANT TO HER CHARACTER I SWEAR - Toby)
Though I guess that might fall under Suselle slop I feel it stands out enough to mention separately.
it seems to me that toby is either retarded or he never even bothered to make a cool backstory for noelle, which would be surprising considering that noelle is a main-cast character that enters our party in chapter 2 & 5 (6 & 7 maybe?). if it's the second, then he is retarded either way, because chapter 2 is in fact noelle's chapter. but nuh uh, proper character development was sacrificed in name of lesbian slop, and it seems that it backfired so much that toby decided to put most of noelle's lore into a fucking out-of-game arg. i hope that toby have learnt the lesson, otherwise chapter 5 will suck badly.
honestly i can only pray that chapter 5 will be higher quality, at least on the same level as chapter 4. chapters 1 & 4 are best chapters in my opinion due to their straight forward simplicity, there are no minigames or computer related bs in them, just the story, battle tested gameplay and level design. i look forward to chapters 6 & 7, hope that toby doesn't do anything too crazy in them.
it is interesting that toby somehow managed to create a 30 fps bullet hell, and how you don't even notice that fact while playing the game. man i need more difficult battle in future chapters because now even the knight is too easy for beat.
but i think that the reason for the 30 fps cap is unironically performance. because gamemaker's object system is heavy, and on older hardware fps could potentially drop below 60.
but i think that the reason for the 30 fps cap is unironically performance. because gamemaker's object system is heavy, and on older hardware fps could potentially drop below 60.
This is at least part of it. Kinda like how Cave Story was designed for 60 FPS but Pixel dropped it to 50 late in development just to make sure it could run on everything.
Something that I think most people miss that makes Suselle even more of a slop is just how cookie cutter similar Suselle and Undyne x Aplhys is to each other
Cool strong tomboy warrior girl that is also Gerson's student that at first presented as a rival that hates you but later befriends and is pretty chill with you and also somehow into the shy nerdy girl X the shy nerdy girl that's into nerd stuff (e.g video games/glitch hunting/anime) and also like gets all super flustered about her crush
Toby Fox, we get it that you have a fetish for tomboy x shy nerd girl Yuri please do something fucking else
