Disaster U.S. economic collapse unprecedented - Fall in GDP has "no comparison since records began in 1947"

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Associated Press
A “for rent” sign hangs on a closed shop July 13 in Miami Beach, Fla.
The gross domestic product is estimated to have shrunk by an unprecedented 32.9% annual rate during the second quarter.


Friday, July 31, 2020 1:00 am
U.S. economic collapse unprecedented
MARTIN CRUTSINGER and PAUL WISEMAN | Associated Press

WASHINGTON – The coronavirus pandemic sent the U.S. economy plunging by a record-shattering 32.9% annual rate last quarter and is still inflicting damage across the country, squeezing already struggling businesses and forcing a wave of layoffs that shows no sign of abating.
The economy's collapse in the April-June quarter, stunning in its speed and depth, came as a resurgence of the viral outbreak has pushed businesses to close for a second time in many areas. The government's estimate of the second-quarter fall in the gross domestic product has no comparison since records began in 1947. The previous worst quarterly contraction – at 10%, less than a third of what was reported Thursday – occurred in 1958 during the Eisenhower administration.

So steep was the economic fall last quarter that most analysts expect a sharp rebound for the current July-September period. But with coronavirus cases rising in the majority of states and the Republican Senate proposing to scale back aid to the unemployed, the pain is likely to continue and potentially worsen in the months ahead.
The plunge in GDP “underscores the unprecedented hit to the economy from the pandemic,” said Andrew Hunter, senior US economist at Capital Economics. “We expect it will take years for that damage to be fully recovered.”

That's because the virus has taken square aim at the engine of the American economy – consumer spending, which accounts for about 70% of activity. That spending collapsed at a 34.6% annual rate last quarter as people holed up in their homes, travel all but froze, and shutdown orders forced many restaurants, bars, entertainment venues and other retail establishments to close.
The Dow Jones Industrial Average closed more than 200 points down – though earlier it had seemed set for a much bigger fall.
Tentative hopes for a swift recovery have been diminished by a resurgence of viral cases in the South and the West that has forced many businesses to close again or reduce occupancy. Between June 21 and July 19, for example, the proportion of Texas bars that were closed shot from 25% to 73%. Likewise, 75% of California beauty shops were shuttered July 19, up from 40% just a week earlier, according to the data firm Womply.
Many states have imposed restrictions on visitors from the states that have reported high levels of cases, hurting hotels, airlines and other industries that depend on travel.
That has led to mammoth job losses. In a sign of how weakened the job market remains, more than 1.4 million laid-off Americans applied for unemployment benefits last week. It was the 19th straight week that more than 1 million people have applied for jobless aid. Before the coronavirus erupted in March in the U.S., the number of Americans seeking unemployment checks had never exceeded 700,000 in any one week, even during the Great Recession.

An additional 830,000 people applied for unemployment benefits under a new program that extends eligibility for the first time to self-employed and gig workers. All told, the government says roughly 30 million people are receiving some form of jobless aid, though that figure might be inflated by double-counting by some states.
The pain could soon intensify further: A supplemental $600 in weekly federal unemployment benefits is expiring, and Congress is squabbling about extending the aid, which will probably be done at some reduced level of payment.

“The risk of temporary job losses becoming permanent is high from repeated closures of businesses,” said Rubeela Farooqi, chief U.S. economist at High Frequency Economics. “That could result in an even slower pace of recovery.”

Last quarter's economic drop followed a 5% fall in the January-March quarter, during which the economy officially entered a recession, ending an 11-year economic expansion, the longest on record in the United States.
The Trump campaign said in a statement that the GDP report reflected a period “when much of the economy was essentially closed down to save millions of American lives.”
 
Yes, and The Kung Flu is about as actually dangerous as a stubbed toe to the vast majority of the people.

Statistically, cholera is fatal in less than 1% of cases. Why do we bother having water purification standards if it's that harmless? They cost us billions each year. What's the point if it's such an insignificant disease?
 
Statistically, cholera is fatal in less than 1% of cases. Why do we bother having water purification standards if it's that harmless? They cost us billions each year. What's the point if it's such an insignificant disease?
Because Cholera is the only reason we purify water?

Strawman harder.
 
Plenty in their 40s and 50s with middle management / govt positions are absolutely loving the lockdowns. No commute, reduced expectations of productivity. Just sit at home and order food. And the paychecks keep rolling in regardless.
And then their favorite restaurant closes down and the only food available is from a few nationwide chains.
Statistically, cholera is fatal in less than 1% of cases. Why do we bother having water purification standards if it's that harmless? They cost us billions each year. What's the point if it's such an insignificant disease?
Because water purification doesn't cost 1/3 of your entire economy to implement.
 
Statistically, cholera is fatal in less than 1% of cases. Why do we bother having water purification standards if it's that harmless? They cost us billions each year. What's the point if it's such an insignificant disease?

Shut down the economy for something as deadly as a seasonal flu to own the retards reasonable people who don't want the economy to fucking crash.
 
I work in healthcare and my boomer patients are the most lax , they are anti Karen’s. They are running around doing things like it’s no big deal. Multiple unnecessary trips to the store etc. They hate masks and will walk around without and only put on when they have to and most realize they are doing it for other people not so much themselves. The people who are the most paranoid are under 50. They are the ones freaking out wearing masks 24/7. They will even report people who aren’t. They’ve reported businesses where I live where they feel that people aren’t observing distancing. Millennials have been like hall monitors. I’ve seen lots of them jogging wearing masks. A lot of the older people I’m dealing with have a zen sort of attitude. If they get it and die oh well I’m old I’ve had a good run. They are careful around their families though. Crazy times.

Pretty similar where I am, except the younger people that love getting on their Facebook soapbox about how important masks are and "muh SCIENCE! YOU ARE A LITERAL MORON IF YOU QUESTION ANY OF THE EXPERTS EVAR! Oh, and also EVIL TRUMPHFTER if you are willing to sacrifice EVEN ONE SINGLE LIFE FOR ECONOMY EVERY SINGLE GRAMMA IS IMPORTANT REEEEE!" aren't actually really adhering to social distancing guidelines when they think no one is looking, generally only wear their masks for selfies while still going out to eat with friends, and also think it's absolutely hilarious when an article about an "anti-masker" dying of Covid comes out. They don't actually care about the masks, the virus, or the elderly. They're just being self righteous and smug, as usual, but they seem to be getting even more flagrant with their hypocrisy. I'm starting to genuinely hate some of the people I once respected or could at least tolerate before.
 
Europe with all it's issues have had a 8-9% contraction.
That is with Italy turning into a shit show and Brexit.

I wonder why the US economy is harder hit?
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Read a bit op on it. Strange how these things work.
 
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Lives are worth more than money.
Tell that to the small business owners and workers giving in to suicide over the despair of losing everything.

Tell that to the people suffering terminal illnesses that get potentially life saving operations delayed indefinitely.

Tell that to the victims of domestic abuse (and maybe even murder) caused by the building stress of this whole farce.

"Lives are worth more than money" is an incredibly naïve mindset even without taking this bullshit into consideration.
 
Tell that to the small business owners and workers giving in to suicide over the despair of losing everything.

Tell that to the people suffering terminal illnesses that get potentially life saving operations delayed indefinitely.

Tell that to the victims of domestic abuse (and maybe even murder) caused by the building stress of this whole farce.

You mean the business owners who have had every opportunity to take advantage of the largest and most comprehensive bailout schemes in financial history that even idiots in some of the gaming Discords I'm part of have been able to take advantage of despite never actually having been employed?

You mean the terminal illness patients that have had their operation timetables sped up dramatically because the hospitals no longer have endless waiting lists for non-essential procedures and want to ensure the highest risk members of society are seen to as fast as possible to relieve their need to depend on other people so much?

You mean the victims of domestic abuse that every single quarantine announcement in the entire universe has included a specific exception for and the daily reminders of this fact?

Because water purification doesn't cost 1/3 of your entire economy to implement.

It did when it was first implemented. Are you unaware of the history of sanitation or something? Entire cities were elevated multiple meters just to install these systems. Imagine every city in the modern world being asked to build the Pyramids, multiple times over. That's literally the labor equivalent that went into these projects, just so some worthless peasants would stop dying of disease that was easily preventable.
 
I legit have been growing ambivalent towards ancients lately from dealing with boomers throwing fits at work to them acting like it's sacrilegious that I need to pass them on the sidewalk as they meander about.

Honestly my tolerance for boomers is about the same as it is for woketards these days. And people have the balls to call Chris-Chan, of all people, a leech on society.
 
Honestly my tolerance for boomers is about the same as it is for woketards these days. And people have the balls to call Chris-Chan, of all people, a leech on society.

While CWC does get SSi disability he spends about 99% of his check on consumer shit so I'd say Chris contributes more to the economy than the average Boomer.
 
While CWC does get SSi disability he spends about 99% of his check on consumer shit so I'd say Chris contributes more to the economy than the average Boomer.

That's a fair point, he is also a source of unintentional amusement for millions of Sonichu fans all across da interwebz. Also it's probably better that Chris doesn't have a job anyway, but that's a story for another day. Plus he didn't destroy the economy for his own benefit and sell out his own children down the road.

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A lot depends on if the country stays open.

The markets are still sky high because they are betting on things jumping back to normal pretty quickly. However, if massive layoffs lead to a depression era death spiral, they'll crash hard.

A lot of people who've been able to work from home don't really realize how badly the service/hospitality and lower end work areas have been fucked. We are now seriously looking at people who are 3-4 months behind on rent. (Only the eviction moratoriums have saved them from the street.)

Huge numbers of people aren't going to have jobs to go back to. We are only seeing the tip of the iceberg.
 
You mean the terminal illness patients that have had their operation timetables sped up dramatically because the hospitals no longer have endless waiting lists for non-essential procedures
You realize that an elective procedure can be anything from SRS to "this is probably going to kill you but we don't know when", right? Also, disease screenings were halted in most places, which meant that for an indefinite period of time, you didn't know how bad your situation was as it was getting worse.

You mean the victims of domestic abuse that every single quarantine announcement in the entire universe has included a specific exception for and the daily reminders of this fact?

So, what, they tell the cops they're trying to escape from being abused, and the cops take their word and bash in the skull of the SOB/unwitting victim of a lie? Or the cops don't take their word, take a looksee, find nothing, and then leave the person at the mercy of their abuser?
 
So, what, they tell the cops they're trying to escape from being abused, and the cops take their word and bash in the skull of the SOB/unwitting victim of a lie? Or the cops don't take their word, take a looksee, find nothing, and then leave the person at the mercy of their abuser?

How does this differ from how domestic abuse is handled outside of quarantine exactly...?
 
I just want to point out that if you are thirty years old you've already lived through three once in a lifetime economic collapses that were the most severe since the great depression and blah blah blah.

That's not sustainable and indicative of deeply rooted systemic failures. Eventually the economy will not bounce back.
 
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