- Joined
- Oct 19, 2018
Do you realize how hard it is for Null to keep the site running? His entire family received death threats, Vordrak's group of loonies spent a year harassing them, they tried to pin terrorist threats on Null (the incident where Vordrak called a school and said he would bomb them comes to mind) and a tranny even showed up at his mom's door with a knife. He's under constant threats of lawsuits, his reputation is ruined and people want him behind bars. He basically had to flee the country.
Yes, definitely. I am acutely aware of those things. And I have thanked Josh for his efforts. For most (normal) people, running this site would be more trouble than it's worth. Only true believers get into this sort of business, and only the most dedicated of the true believers remain. I hope he sticks around. Hopefully he doesn't quit the internet over Trump's mean tweets.
The protection that section 230 gives us is the only thing keeping this forum afloat because if someone could come after Kiwifarms legally, they definitely would. People have spent thousands of dollars trying to take us down already.
Now that is something we disagree on. Section 230 isn't the only law that can be used to defend against litigation. For that matter, the current version of § 230 isn't necessarily the best version that can be made. While § 230 protects many great web entrepreneurs, it protects some very malevolent actors as well. It does not need to be that way. It is possible for Congress to draft a law that protects people like Josh and KF, while still holding multinational social media companies accountable for their bad behavior. I reject this idea that we must necessarily protect both, even if one good and the other is bad. Congress can fine-tune this statutory scheme to address the problems it creates, while preserving the benefits.
Also, keep in mind that § 230 doesn't prevent the federal government from bringing criminal charges, even if the charges are ultimately bogus. I hate to say it, but if the feds really had a hard-on for Josh, they could easily destroy him and KF. They do this to people all the time. Section 230 may create an illusion of security, but the threat of death by litigation is always there.
For someone to open Pineapple Plantation, they would need to have balls of steel.
That we agree on.