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I was a regular on the forums a long time ago. Stopped shortly after the lolacat incident. (If anyone wasn't here for that one - back when TV Tropes was in its super libertarian age, an underage girl got banned for calling out a couple of grown men who were sexually harassing her.)

I think the worst personal memory I have on there was the time some older dude tried to groom and solicit sexual information about me via PM. He pressed on even after I made it clear I was underage at the time. No bueno.
 
I tend to avoid a lot of the hot button issues like SJWs whenever I venture onto TV Tropes forums. I mostly just discuss to a small degree any work I'm interested in or basic real-life stuff that will elicit discussion without a likelihood of devolving into a sperg-fest. I won't deny the often lulzy goings-on, but for the most part I've not been a firsthand witness to them. (Except the time Fast Eddie blocked me because I was using too much ALL CAPS in my edit summaries.)

My main issues with the TV Tropes forums have been the slow, SLOW movement of the Trope Repair Shop. Basically, if a trope is being heavily misused, severely underused, has an awkward name, etc., they send it to get fixed. And some take a long, long, LONG time to get going. "Exactly What It Says on the Tin" has been tagged for "Trope Repair Shop" since October 2013 and is still slowly going.

Granted, I see that kind of thing on Wikipedia too. People find one tiny flaw in an article, slap a "This article needs cleanup" tag on it, and the article is low-impact enough that seven years later, the "cleanup" tag is still there, and nobody has any idea what needs cleaning up in it because the tagger just dropped the tag and left without discussing what he or she felt was wrong.
 
Remember Chagen46?
I had the dubious "pleasure" of posting alongside Chagen. It was like being stuck with the most obnoxious kid brother you can imagine, without being able to slap his head and tell him to shut up. If your younger brother liked to go on about his weird fetish, of course.

Being a teenager was really his only excuse. A depressing number of bad Tropers didn't even have that.
 
Chagen apparently got even worse after laving TV Tropes. I don't know the full story though except that he went from conservative Christian to euphoric atheist.

Gotta love someone who goes straight from one form of being an annoying idiot to the form of being an annoying idiot that is its mirror opposite.
 
They're taking down the FSTDT page? Fuck that noise, I've archived it. It seems they've already taken down the Characters page though.

Main pages:
https://archive.is/l5Avd
https://archive.is/IicN8
https://archive.is/il9kq
https://archive.is/16L1j
https://archive.is/JL4GO
https://archive.is/86F1O
https://archive.is/7LhWL

Awesome page:
https://archive.is/x8yis

Funny page:
https://archive.is/NMtsR

Heartwarming page:
https://archive.is/NtKov

Nightmare Fuel page:
https://archive.is/eTFKT

Quotes page:
https://archive.is/Ylznq

Tear Jerker page:
https://archive.is/PoO9a

Trivia page:
https://archive.is/HuJVB

WMG page:
https://archive.is/7R0hi

YMMV page:
https://archive.is/u7hAU

Wayback Machine archive of the Characters page. http://web.archive.org/web/20150622...ki.php/Characters/FundiesSayTheDarndestThings
 
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I always say that real-life entities, be they persons, organizations, countries, faiths -- or websites like FSTDT -- should not be "troped". Real life happenstances are not consciously, deliberately devised the way a movie plot does, nor are they derived from or inspired by literary devices and stereotypes. To fit them into "tropes" is to miss the point of tropes entirely. But I'm sure TV Trope's scrubbing out real-life entities is not based on philosophical objections, but rather a holdover of Fast Eddie's "no criticism ever allowed" stance.
 
Chagen apparently got even worse after laving TV Tropes. I don't know the full story though except that he went from conservative Christian to euphoric atheist.

The "They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot" trope is nothing but complaining. I cringe nearly every time I see it listed.
Well there are people out there who wish that some stories could do something with the material (and from my experience, there's plenty of stories that either don't go further with certain plot point, never explain new/established plot points, do something incredibly stupid with plot points, what have you). As well as worldbuilding/backstory elements that the writers never go into detail about, especially if it's a driving force of a plot.

Yeah, I understand you problems with the page (which given that this is TVTropes after all, is not unfounded), but there are some cases where the idea is, um, 'justified' for lack of a better term.
 
Well there are people out there who wish that some stories could do something with the material (and from my experience, there's plenty of stories that either don't go further with certain plot point, never explain new/established plot points, do something incredibly stupid with plot points, what have you). As well as worldbuilding/backstory elements that the writers never go into detail about, especially if it's a driving force of a plot.

Yeah, I understand you problems with the page (which given that this is TVTropes after all, is not unfounded), but there are some cases where the idea is, um, 'justified' for lack of a better term.
I get that, but last time I saw it, it was basically complaining about Steven Universe, which is known for its great writing.
 
I was going to start a forum for these, but I'm so happy there is one. I mean, TV tropes is great. I'm especially surprised that there are pages for (and I'm going to sound like a snob) plays (I'm talkin Shakespeare), mythology, classic literature--that are all well-written and not insane.

The more lolcow-y side on TV tropes can be found on the Dethroning moment pages. Some of it is spergy nitpicking, but some of it veers into Tumblrina shit where they forget basic character and plot--if any character does something they deem unsavory, the show is evil. Like this from the Doctor Who one, discussing the Doctor's, rightfully earned, cathartic moment after being given the wrong coordinates to his home planet.
I usually have an absurd level of tolerance for out of character moments, but the final scene of "death in heaven" nearly ruined the 12 doctor's character for me when upon finding out that Galifrey wasn't where Missy/theMaster said it was, the doctor began beating on a TARDIS panel hard enough to cause sparks to fly out of it. let me repeat that, the doctor; a man who has been shown to attempt peaceful solutions when going up against the most omnicidal foes, is now beating a character that has been equated to a wife. I get that 12 is meant to be angrier than the previous few incarnations, but when your protagonist essentially commits domestic abuse a moral event horizon has been crossed.

One of the things where people get the most spergy is the Shallow Parody page. Like even if there is something that's an actual funny parody, there's always one fan to nitpick it, like the writers need to research every single thing about it so that only a small part of the audience who is extremely familiar with the stuff will get it. It's a mix between over-sensitivity and fan entitlement. There's a shitload of stuff written under Robot Chicken, which 99.9 percent of the time is actually really good at what they are parodying. Like I'm surprised their Harry Potter sketches are really well-done. It's clear they read it, or have seen the movies, and are able to make fun of it, including its flaws, along with it being able to make the parodies accessible so it isn't oozing in stuff only super-fans will get. But then you have people sperging about how they didn't represent Pokemon or iCarly properly.

One Pokémon parody wasn't much better. It involves Pikachu and Squirtle babbling nonsensically at each other in Pokémon Speak for several seconds until Squirtle gets fed up and starts ranting about how stupid the show is, yelling at viewers to read a book or something. The anime never does this; on the rare occasion that conversations between Pokemon are focused on (the main characters are, in fact humans, and the focus is on them), it's typically arranged so that it's possible to guess at what they're saying based on context, body language, and facial expressions. Subtitles were used in the early episode "Island of the Giant Pokemon", since the intended dialogue was too specific for that.
Another Pokemon parody focuses on what goes on inside of Pikachu's pokeball, despite the fact that Ash's Pikachu almost never goes inside its pokeball because it doesn't like it. Also, the sketch ends with Ash pitting his Pikachu against a Charizard, which causes Pikachu to sigh in resignation to defeat, thinking Ash must be an idiot to put him up against a Charizard. While Pikachu is a lower-tier Pokemon than Charizard, Charizard is part flying type and is doubly vulnerable to electric attacks, so even a regular Pikachu would have a type advantage over Charizard. This, combined with the fact that Ash's Pikachu is absurdly powerful and has held its ground against a Dragonite and a Regice(among other legendaries and psuedo-legendaries) makes this joke grating for anyone familiar with the series to watch.

An episode mocking iCarly consistently poked fun at how morbidly obese Gibby is, despite the fact that the actor had lost the weight years ago.

In this one about Drawn Together, the person ranting doesn't really get that the characters are actually supposed to be parodies of reality TV show cliches along with being parodies of cartoons. Hell, Clara actually does stuff that a Disney Princess does do, like her singing magically summoning animals.

Several of the main characters of Drawn Together also fit this trope. In particular, many lines involving Princess Clara parody "Disney movie cliches" that were never in any actual Disney movie. Toot also has no resemblance to Betty Boop besides appearance.
 
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Does anyone remember Something Awful's attempted takedown of the loli contents in Tvtropes and 80% of users chimped out?
 
Does anyone remember Something Awful's attempted takedown of the loli contents in Tvtropes and 80% of users chimped out?
Was it similar to this?
This was a part of an attempt to make the site more "family-friendly" (again to avoid the ire of Google's censors). At the same time Fast Eddie started a campaign to remove all works that could be construed as pedophilic by Google; some reasonable like Kodomo no Jikan, and some... not, like Lolita. There was a massive backlash from tropers who whined about freeze peach. It caused a big schism in the community, and many users moved to alternative sites like All the Tropes.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=O60H4_QA8JI
 
Does anyone remember Something Awful's attempted takedown of the loli contents in Tvtropes and 80% of users chimped out?

It was around the time of their second Google Incident, as they call it. SA's mock threads on TV Tropes went into overdrive and they did their best to incite a takedown of all the gross crap on TV Tropes, even had a few Goons on the the P5 committee to take it down (Fast Eddie banned them as soon as he found out they were Goons, as he hated SA).

Unfortunately, the SA threads got nuked when they started "pozloading my negholep" and directly trolling people from TV Tropes, and they also had a bunch of ex-tropers show up to trollshield themselves.

What makes it extra ironic is the revelation of all the pedos that have been/are on SA, including one that used to be a moderator.
 
Oh lordy I remember the SA TVTropes genre.

Fast Eddie literally banned any positive mention of SA.

SA didn't do anything other than point and laugh and the entire site devoured itself in blanger.
 
I've probably been to the forums like...three times, and that was years ago. The pages themselves are the only things that interest me, so I had no idea the forums were this bad.

While I find most of the pages entertaining and informative, I'll occasionally come across something cringeworthy and it's obvious that whoever wrote it had no idea what they were talking about. The most recent case for me was this bit in the Dethroning Moment of Suck page:
Scarlet Letter by Nathaniel Hawthorne. It's a reasonably good piece of fiction in general if a bit contrived. I cannot help but to be annoyed that the author has written in such a way that he seems to have a raging hate-boner for ugly people. The antagonist Chillingworth does objectively good things: He gains great medical knowledge from the indians at considerable personal risk and uses it for the benefit of the community. When Chillingworth comes home to see his wife (and indirectly himself) publicly shamed, he comforts Hester, medicates her and her daughter and mostly blames himself for his wife's infidelity. He helps Dimmesdale medically and emotionally by correctly insisting that Dimmesdale will never fully recover until he relieves himself of whatever is weighing his heart. Despite these good acts, the Puritans of Boston seem ungrateful for having a man who has put so much effort into becoming a great doctor for them and seem to interpret everything he does in the worst possible light. Everyone, including the narrator and Chillingworth himself assumes that he is doing everything for the very worst of reasons -because Chillingworth is ugly. Just to hammer in his badness the narrator makes Chillingworth ugly and uglier as the story goes on. The reader finds him/herself asking "what can an ugly person do that counts as a good deed to you, Nathaniel Hawthorne?" The dethroning moment of suck occurs when that question is answered near the end of the book. Chillingworth dies and leaves his great fortune (that we never heard of before apparently Chillingworth choose to live an austere life despite being rich) to the cute child Pearl -though he knows it is not his daughter. The author claims this was his only good deed. The author has answered: "Die! and leave his money to a beautiful person. That's the only good thing an ugly person can do because the only good ugly person is a dead ugly person!" Cue Evil laugh. Scarlett Letter; hate speech against ugly people.
Um...is this person not aware of what "symbolism" means? They make it sound as though Hawthorne was literally saying all ugly people are evil.
 
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