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I will say this about TV tropes... sometimes you can discover some pretty interesting stuff (I recently learned about the Max Headroom Signal hijacking incident from the site).
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By the way, a couple years ago, I actually decided to ask the Tropers why Social Justice and Feminism has become so widespread. Their responses are pretty telling of their mindset:
Also, in the Captain Marvel thread, there were two posts made before that film's release that I felt also reflected why they lean left, politically:
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"Everything is political. Always. Because when we say "political" in this context, what we really mean is "cultural". And every piece of media contributes to culture.
Captain Marvel is not political, in the sense that neither the film nor anybody involved is running for public office. But it is a step forward in a cultural revolution which has been going for some time, in which white men's privilege of majority representation is being steadily eroded for the sake of giving everyone else a fair shake.
And there are many white men pushing back against this. Representation is a culture war that springs up every single time a movie starring women or minorities comes into existence."
"Oh, I hope that Captain Marvel actually is political in more than one sense. I really want to see the war by proxy aspect being explored properly.
And yes, there is a cultural war going on, but I think in a world in which Disney organises a gay pride parade in one of their parks, I think we can safely say that those right-wingers are whining over a cultural shift which is already happening, and that in the larger scheme of things, actual policies are the more important battle field.
And don't get me wrong here: examining the cultural impact of movies is important. Trying to sink a movie before it even got released or got reviewed is not, it's just pathetic."
Also, in the Captain Marvel thread, there were two posts made before that film's release that I felt also reflected why they lean left, politically:
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"Everything is political. Always. Because when we say "political" in this context, what we really mean is "cultural". And every piece of media contributes to culture.
Captain Marvel is not political, in the sense that neither the film nor anybody involved is running for public office. But it is a step forward in a cultural revolution which has been going for some time, in which white men's privilege of majority representation is being steadily eroded for the sake of giving everyone else a fair shake.
And there are many white men pushing back against this. Representation is a culture war that springs up every single time a movie starring women or minorities comes into existence."
"Oh, I hope that Captain Marvel actually is political in more than one sense. I really want to see the war by proxy aspect being explored properly.
And yes, there is a cultural war going on, but I think in a world in which Disney organises a gay pride parade in one of their parks, I think we can safely say that those right-wingers are whining over a cultural shift which is already happening, and that in the larger scheme of things, actual policies are the more important battle field.
And don't get me wrong here: examining the cultural impact of movies is important. Trying to sink a movie before it even got released or got reviewed is not, it's just pathetic."
Just how many white guys are bothered by the presence of non-whites in movies in starring roles?I seem to remember actors like Will Smith,Denzel Washington,Samuel L Jackson becoming famous in the 1990's.Was there any backlash in 1998 to having Denzel play the lead in movie after movie?If anything if you read Denzel on the actor roster you knew by default he was the lead and i don't think there was a backlash.Maybe it was because except for a few movies like Glory or Malcolm X racial issues were not at the forefront in his leading roles(there might have been some subtext but quite diffuse).It was a colorblind casting choice.Most black actors while doing the obligatory 'racial' role at some point between 1990-2008 when they got cast in roles as leading men it was a casting choice that had at most some subtext of racial issues but it was rarely the issue.
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By the way, a couple years ago, I actually decided to ask the Tropers why Social Justice and Feminism has become so widespread. Their responses are pretty telling of their mindset:
Also, in the Captain Marvel thread, there were two posts made before that film's release that I felt also reflected why they lean left, politically:
Marvel Cinematic Universe
"Everything is political. Always. Because when we say "political" in this context, what we really mean is "cultural". And every piece of media contributes to culture.
Captain Marvel is not political, in the sense that neither the film nor anybody involved is running for public office. But it is a step forward in a cultural revolution which has been going for some time, in which white men's privilege of majority representation is being steadily eroded for the sake of giving everyone else a fair shake.
And there are many white men pushing back against this. Representation is a culture war that springs up every single time a movie starring women or minorities comes into existence."
"Oh, I hope that Captain Marvel actually is political in more than one sense. I really want to see the war by proxy aspect being explored properly.
And yes, there is a cultural war going on, but I think in a world in which Disney organises a gay pride parade in one of their parks, I think we can safely say that those right-wingers are whining over a cultural shift which is already happening, and that in the larger scheme of things, actual policies are the more important battle field.
And don't get me wrong here: examining the cultural impact of movies is important. Trying to sink a movie before it even got released or got reviewed is not, it's just pathetic."
Only that this Culture War is ending and they're on the losing tide.
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Tobias Drake is a faggot.By the way, a couple years ago, I actually decided to ask the Tropers why Social Justice and Feminism has become so widespread. Their responses are pretty telling of their mindset:
Also, in the Captain Marvel thread, there were two posts made before that film's release that I felt also reflected why they lean left, politically:
Marvel Cinematic Universe
"Everything is political. Always. Because when we say "political" in this context, what we really mean is "cultural". And every piece of media contributes to culture.
Captain Marvel is not political, in the sense that neither the film nor anybody involved is running for public office. But it is a step forward in a cultural revolution which has been going for some time, in which white men's privilege of majority representation is being steadily eroded for the sake of giving everyone else a fair shake.
And there are many white men pushing back against this. Representation is a culture war that springs up every single time a movie starring women or minorities comes into existence."
"Oh, I hope that Captain Marvel actually is political in more than one sense. I really want to see the war by proxy aspect being explored properly.
And yes, there is a cultural war going on, but I think in a world in which Disney organises a gay pride parade in one of their parks, I think we can safely say that those right-wingers are whining over a cultural shift which is already happening, and that in the larger scheme of things, actual policies are the more important battle field.
And don't get me wrong here: examining the cultural impact of movies is important. Trying to sink a movie before it even got released or got reviewed is not, it's just pathetic."
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Maybe a few profoundly autistic ones. People picked actors like Will Smith because at his peak, his mere presence on the poster guaranteed you a strong opening weekend. So not only were white guys not turned off by his presence, they would be guaranteed to show up for an action film starring him.
Show up in enough stinkers and you lose that level of star power but that's really what studios think about when casting and why directors were often forced to accept this even when they had another actor they preferred, unless they themselves were such big names they could force their favorite into the lead.
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"It isn't the same as trump" nice double standards, tv tropes. Also there's no prove he raped themYet more fun from Tropers attempting to do politics (especially in regards to Biden being accused of sexual harassment):
The General US Politics Thread
"This isn't the same as Trump's accusers where he flat out attacked several women, raped one in a clothing store, raped his wife and seized multiple others by the privates, and forcibly kisses others. "
"Brace yourself for Trump to jump on this and tard cum it for all its worth. This is exactly the sort of distraction he's been waiting for, no doubt. Anything to move the news cycle onward from the virus and economic crisis unfolding."
Also of the recent relief bill:
"Republicans have strong principles in people being forced to suffer, even when it's politically advantageous to them to do otherwise.
Right now, people are terrified and this is likely the best deal they could get. Democrats aren't about to play chicken with something this vital. I'd have preferred Pelosi's House bill (AN: yes, this person did say that), but we're not getting near of what we wish with the Republicans having the Senate."
"The people who really need that money won't actually get it, though, at least not nearly enough of it; that's what has people disappointed. "
Also in regards to the coronavirus:
"Speaking of coronavirus, several pages ago people were talking about red states leaning back as coronavirus overruns the urban states. Well, it looks like COVID-19 is quickly spreading there, to the point that coronavirus cases in Trump states could exceed the number of cases in Clinton states by the day before Easter." (AN: gotta through in a jab at Trump there somehow).
Man, I can't even with these idiots. They only believe that anything left-leaning is good, and anything else is morally reprehensible. That, and they worship the grounds of people like Pelosi and Warren for reasons I can't fathom.
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Is it as good as the one where Invader Zim gets surgically altered by the Tallest to be mpregnable as a retarded ploy to prevent the growing height disparity within their species?
It sounds pathetic to get your fanfiction off of tvtropes, but that website is much better at giving me a reason to be interested than any major fan fiction platform.
EDIT: Ya'll're squeamish enough to be TV Tropes editors.
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That was a fanfic in TVT? Man those guys are truly exeptional.
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They still have their share of nuts, apparently. No, really. I just clicked on the last page only to find something dumber.
And I also found what every tranny wished for when they changed their names.
And I also found what every tranny wished for when they changed their names.
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In Short Supply (Fanfic) - TV Tropes
"In Short Supply" is an Invader Zim fanfiction by Ckret2. In fact it is a Zim/Purple mpreg epic. The plot in a nutshell: Purple discovers that the gap between the tall and short Irkens is widening, with almost no Irkens of medium height born in …
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Most, popular, fan-fic?! On Fanfiction.net?! God! The IZ fandom is weird.In Short Supply (Fanfic) - TV Tropes
"In Short Supply" is an Invader Zim fanfiction by Ckret2. In fact it is a Zim/Purple mpreg epic. The plot in a nutshell: Purple discovers that the gap between the tall and short Irkens is widening, with almost no Irkens of medium height born in …
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I’m sorry but this is some grade-A bullshit here.
I’d argue the onus is on this high-and-mighty editor to prove that these two episodes DIDN’T exist. After all, who would want to live in a world with
Funko Pop gives us a good idea of just how much of an absolute unit Zeno
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Not by itself, of course. But I think it played a relatively large part at how modern media sucks so bad.
From humour devolving into "this is a trope".
To plot lines being either "we must use as many good tropes" or "we have to subvert as many tropes". It seems that the popularization of tropes made filmmakers give too much thought on their inclusion/subversion rather than try anything original or to deviate from the formula, as well as creating a culture of people seeing the acknowledgement of tropes as humour by itself.
Your thoughts?
From humour devolving into "this is a trope".
To plot lines being either "we must use as many good tropes" or "we have to subvert as many tropes". It seems that the popularization of tropes made filmmakers give too much thought on their inclusion/subversion rather than try anything original or to deviate from the formula, as well as creating a culture of people seeing the acknowledgement of tropes as humour by itself.
Your thoughts?
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I'd argue that if anything, it's only played a small part in it. This mentality's been in place since the latter half of the 20th century, when people tried to play with all the old cliches. All TVTropes ended up doing was making it more cynical than it was in the 80s or 90s, and that was already pretty cynical as it was.
Lazier too, in all honesty.
Lazier too, in all honesty.
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That would explain why a lot of American and European media seems very cynical compared to some Japanese ones.
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I'd say TV Tropes is more of a symptom rather than the main problem with modern pop culture.
I think that Joss Whedon's meteoric rise in popularity helped exacerbate this problem, but at the same time, he was not the cause of it. He was merely one of the more visibly influential figures in a wider trend of trying to make everything all self-aware, insincere, ironic, or snarky.
The only one of these postmodern pop culture curators I can respect on any level is Quentin Tarantino, since for all his own flaws, he genuinely enjoys the tropes and genres of the media he consumes and uses as inspiration.
Really, Tarantino's reference-laden work is often done more as a loving homage than as some form of pretentious and "above it all" ironic snark like in Whedon's work.
Fittingly, TV Tropes was founded by a hardcore Joss Whedon fanboy.
I think that Joss Whedon's meteoric rise in popularity helped exacerbate this problem, but at the same time, he was not the cause of it. He was merely one of the more visibly influential figures in a wider trend of trying to make everything all self-aware, insincere, ironic, or snarky.
The only one of these postmodern pop culture curators I can respect on any level is Quentin Tarantino, since for all his own flaws, he genuinely enjoys the tropes and genres of the media he consumes and uses as inspiration.
Really, Tarantino's reference-laden work is often done more as a loving homage than as some form of pretentious and "above it all" ironic snark like in Whedon's work.
Fittingly, TV Tropes was founded by a hardcore Joss Whedon fanboy.
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