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iafiv said:
I'm confused were Ad Hominem attacks ever considered funny and cool????I seem to remember the term being quite old and ad hominem attacks being considered a low blow for a long time.So when were they cool???Or funny?Methinks tropers don't actually know that Ad Hominem attacks have almost always been considered a low blow strategy.
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It's only funny when there's an idiot involved.
 
NerdShamer said:
It's only funny when there's an idiot involved.
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A lot of people confusing an insult for an ad hominem. It would be an ad hominem to say someone's wrong because they're an idiot, but pointing out they're wrong and also an idiot isn't an ad hominem.
 
AnOminous said:
A lot of people confusing an insult for an ad hominem. It would be an ad hominem to say someone's wrong because they're an idiot, but pointing out they're wrong and also an idiot isn't an ad hominem.
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This is true, people who fail to make that distinction are themselves committing the "Fallacy fallacy", which is the idea that a single fallacious statement renders an entire argument invalid, rather than just the arguments resting on that fallacious logic. This is true because I said so, and I'm always right. You know that's true because I said so.
 
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Girl-Show Ghetto - TV Tropes

There is a prevalent Double Standard most people have regarding media: that women's entertainment should only be enjoyed by women with no crossover allowed — despite it being okay for women to watch shows primarily marketed towards men & …
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This page as a whole is just pure social justice garbage (it even quotes Movie Bob at the top, FFS), but I think these entries might actually be the worst.
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According to these dumb dumbs, fan fiction is generally considered awful because "SEXISM!".
(also, "academic research" on fanfics. Are you shitting me?")
 
NARPASSWORD said:
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There is a prevalent Double Standard most people have regarding media: that women's entertainment should only be enjoyed by women with no crossover allowed — despite it being okay for women to watch shows primarily marketed towards men & …
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This page as a whole is just pure social justice garbage (it even quotes Movie Bob at the top, FFS), but I think these entries might actually be the worst.
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According to these dumb dumbs, fan fiction is generally considered awful because "SEXISM!".
(also, "academic research" on fanfics. Are you shitting me?")
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Fanfiction is generally considered awful because it is either written by an amateur with no professional editing or blatantly the author's fetish.
 
Ruin said:
Didn't Tvtropes allegedly try and crack down on all the weird fetish shit? It didn't work.
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Only the most obvious stuff got the axe, and that's when they were beholden to their advertisers.

Now, from what I understand, they don't have to worry about advertisers, they have their own weird internal standards I don't entirely understand, but I guess some things are protected because mods run interference for them.

That or it's just a case of apathy, because TV Tropes was happy to let all sorts of gross shit fester until they got too much outside flack they couldn't ignore, still seems to be true now.
 
GethN7 said:
Only the most obvious stuff got the axe, and that's when they were beholden to their advertisers.

Now, from what I understand, they don't have to worry about advertisers, they have their own weird internal standards I don't entirely understand, but I guess some things are protected because mods run interference for them.

That or it's just a case of apathy, because TV Tropes was happy to let all sorts of gross shit fester until they got too much outside flack they couldn't ignore, still seems to be true now.
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To some extent I get where they're coming from, I'd rather a website cater to its established userbase than try to be palatable for outsiders or normies, but there's a limit to that
 
I haven't checked because I refuse to disable adblock but I heard there are tons of Hentai ads on TvTropes because no one else wants to advertise on a site where the users write 300+ pages on why they want to lick Mickey Mouse's feet.
 
Ruin said:
I haven't checked because I refuse to disable adblock but I heard there are tons of Hentai ads on TvTropes because no one else wants to advertise on a site where the users write 300+ pages on why they want to lick Mickey Mouse's feet.
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Actually, not to my knowledge, they care a bit too much about their homogenized outer image to let that happen.

Still, keeping adblock on is a good idea (Brave is ideal, it kill all ads, even suppresses the "register with us" nag message on pages).
 
Is there a furry working at TV Tropes protecting his porn like at Discord? Because infamous cubfucker text game Paraphore has a page there that's been up since 2017, and everything about that should violate their content policy.

The majority of this was removed from the page, but just reading it makes me want to A-Log. John Waters would not be a huge fan of your fucking necrophilic cub porn.

Many of the contents of this game are illicit to an extent and if it wasn't for artistic liberty and how literature often grants this amount of freedom as to what you can write (There are far grosser stuff on TV Tropes possibly). Now I know what you're thinking: "Isn't this porn?" but when all is said and done... It does have good writing. It's truly difficult to interpret what exactly the angle it is trying to play as it is now, whenever it truly glorifies the acts it describes or it is playing itself off as horror. The deeper you explore it's subplot through out unspeakable horrors, the deeper it gets. That's all I can say without spoiling it. This would quite possibly be John Water's favorite video game of all time. It is still in development, so judgement should still be held back for what kind of twists are in mind.
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The Sum of All Fears / YMMV - TV Tropes

The novel "Funny Aneurysm" Moment: Islamic extremists launch an attack against the United States and trick them into believing they can destroy the world at will. In retaliation, the U.S. government almost invades Iran, an action the extremists …
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The 'funny aneurysm moment' is a bit weird.Apparently Bush should have used the template shown in the novel and not invade Afghanistan as a reaction to 9/11.You can argue quite well that the US went overboard with invading Iraq a place that had no direct involvement in 9/11 but i seem to remember the taliban hosting Al Qaeda back then.Also the rise of the Islamic State took place under the watch of Obama years after Bush left office.You can talk all you want about who did what but by the time ISIS was becoming a problem Obama was into his 2nd term.Maybe tropers are bad at basic history.Then again why is this put under 'funny' i have no idea to begin with.The novel Clancy wrote was never intended as funny.Clancy always wrote stuff meant to be taken seriously to a large extent.So i don't see how the novel was 'funny' circa 1991 and it became unfunny after 9/11.
And the harsher in hindsight trope methinks some tropers don't proofread what they write.Whoever wrote 'not being far fetched and not very believable' apparently doesn't realise the contradiction in terms that they wrote.Also i don't think a few terrorist incidents involving one or two guys armed with rifles are equivalent to an actual nuclear attack so harsher in hindsight seems overblown.The worst terrorist attack involving right wingers remains Oklahoma city which happened in 1995 years before 9/11.
 
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The Sum of All Fears / YMMV - TV Tropes

The novel "Funny Aneurysm" Moment: Islamic extremists launch an attack against the United States and trick them into believing they can destroy the world at will. In retaliation, the U.S. government almost invades Iran, an action the extremists …
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The 'funny aneurysm moment' is a bit weird.Apparently Bush should have used the template shown in the novel and not invade Afghanistan as a reaction to 9/11.You can argue quite well that the US went overboard with invading Iraq a place that had no direct involvement in 9/11 but i seem to remember the taliban hosting Al Qaeda back then.Also the rise of the Islamic State took place under the watch of Obama years after Bush left office.You can talk all you want about who did what but by the time ISIS was becoming a problem Obama was into his 2nd term.Maybe tropers are bad at basic history.
And the harsher in hindsight trope methinks some tropers don't proofread what they write.Whoever wrote 'not being far fetched and not very believable' apparently doesn't realise the contradiction in terms that they wrote.
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Just read the whole page, and the stench of wokeness hit my nose hard at the part about how Neo Nazis villains seem a lot more plausible these days.

Sum of All Fears adapted to a movie used Neo Nazis instead Islamic fundamentalists because the scriptwriters though it was more plausible then, despite the book laying out a very good set of reasons why a bunch of Arabs in a cave could easily build a nuclear bomb.

That does not make it foreshadowing for the latest buzzwords du jour.
 
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Just read the whole page, and the stench of wokeness hit my nose hard at the part about how Neo Nazis villains seem a lot more plausible these days.

Sum of All Fears adapted to a movie used Neo Nazis instead Islamic fundamentalists because the scriptwriters though it was more plausible then, despite the book laying out a very good set of reasons why a bunch of Arabs in a cave could easily build a nuclear bomb.

That does not make it foreshadowing for the latest buzzwords du jour.
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From what i remember the change of villains took place due to box office considerations.They were worried muslim villains might lead to accusations of discrimination and that might hurt the box office potential of the movie.The Siege which came out in '98 was criticised quite a lot for the use of arab villains.So the producers went for an easier to swallow villain.Ironically this led to accusations of the movie not making sense since it didn't seem logical for neo-nazis living in Europe to start WW3 in a harebrained scheme of taking over the world.Probably because Europe would get nuked as well.Clancy went for villains that would not fear nuclear winter or fallout and went for a primarily Middle Eastern villain since those would be somewhat far from the immediate devastation.Clancy understood that anyone that actually wants a nuclear war would almost certainly either want to annihilate everyone for nihilistic reasons or would be one of the few to have real advantages from such an event.Neo-nazis used to dining in Paris restaurants are unlikely plotters of a nuclear war since ending up as a scavenger for food is a step down on the ladder.Even reviewers that liked the movie said that it seemed too absurd to start WW3 when your actual profit from such a scheme would be wearing a radiation suit.
 
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101 Dalmatians - Multimedia Humans / Characters - TV Tropes

101 Dalmatians franchise character index Multimedia: Animals | Humans TV series: 101 Dalmatians: The Series | 101 Dalmatian Street (Dalmatian Family Recurring Characters) This character sheet is for all the humans who appear in multiple …
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From the truck driver’s section.
 
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101 Dalmatians - Multimedia Humans / Characters - TV Tropes

101 Dalmatians franchise character index Multimedia: Animals | Humans TV series: 101 Dalmatians: The Series | 101 Dalmatian Street (Dalmatian Family Recurring Characters) This character sheet is for all the humans who appear in multiple …
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From the truck driver’s section.

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They realized they invalidated their point while they were writing it but they posted it anyway. Wonderful.
 
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