Culture Trump bashes #metoo - Similar to a speech where he insulted the movement in July yesterday

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President Donald Trump got something of a softball from CBS News' Steven Portnoy at his press conference in New York Wednesday: What's your message to the young men of America?

It was a softball because the single most obvious message a President could issue to young men right now is to respect women.

But Trump went in a wildly different direction, arguing the US is in a dark period as women come forward to say they've been assaulted.

For context, this is the question Portnoy asked:

Portnoy: "About the hearing tomorrow, you were asked earlier by my friend from Sky News about the message that you are sending the women of the country. What about the message that you may be sending to young men? You're a father. What does this moment we're in, the cultural moment..."

Trump: "It's a very big cultural moment."

Portnoy: "Right, so what message do you have for the young men of America?"

The big cultural moment is the #MeToo movement, along with the outpouring of women coming forward to share stories of harassment and assault.

The President, however, did not give the easy answer. Instead, he told them they could be next.

Complaining that his Supreme Court nominee is accused of sexual assault and reliving his own anger at the many allegations levied against him over the years and during the presidential campaign, Trump returned to the idea he put forward earlier in the news conference that all of these allegations against him and Kavanaugh are, respectively, part of a "big fat con job."

It was in that earlier question by the Sky News reporter that Trump said calling something a "con job" really wasn't that bad and he's said worse in the past.

Trump pointed at Portnoy and said, "I could have you chosen for a position ... and somebody could say things. And it's happened to me, many times, where false statements are made and honestly, nobody knows who to believe."

He didn't stop there.

"I could pick another Supreme Court judge, justice. I could pick another one, another one, another one. This could go on forever. Somebody could come and say 30 years ago, 25 years ago, 10 years ago, five years ago he did a horrible thing to me. He did this, he did that, he did this, he did that. And honestly, it's a very dangerous period in our country."

He said the dangerous time is "being perpetrated by some very evil people, some of whom are Democrats, I must say."

It's a game that they're playing," he said. "It's a con game at the highest level."

Trump said there's a danger some candidates might not want to even be nominated for the Supreme Court after seeing what's happened to the "wonderful man" Brett Kavanaugh.

It's bigger than the court, though, according to Trump.

"This is beyond Supreme Court. This is everything to do with our country. When you are guilty until proven innocent, it's just not supposed to be that way," Trump said.

"Always I've heard you're innocent until proven guilty. I've heard this so long. It's such a beautiful phrase. In this case, you're guilty until proven innocent. I think that is a very dangerous standard for our country."

Then Trump said all that being said, he looks forward to hearing what both Kavanaugh and Christine Blasey Ford have to say during testimony Thursday.

Portnoy tried to get him to give a more specific message to young men, but Trump ended the press conference.

He didn't really need to say more. The message Trump delivered to young men is this: Be afraid.

Which is not as good a message as don't assault women.

Trump actually sort of predicted the last question would be a difficult one for him when, just before allowing Portnoy to ask it.

"Elton John said when you hit that last tune and it's good, don't go back. I've seen, have you ever seen, they do great, they hit the last tune and everyone goes crazy, then they go back for an encore, alright? And they don't hit it. And they leave - everyone leaves and they say that wasn't a very good concert."

"Let's go," Trump told Portnoy. "Don't make me wrong."

https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/26/politics/trump-message-to-young-men/index.html
 
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Hillary Clinton sexually assaulted my Weiner, dick and balls at a sock hop in 1923. I'll never forgive her, ever.
 
I want him to bash U2. "They've put out some decent records over the years, but that Bono sure is a sanctimonious bag of dicks! SAD!"
 
"He didn't really need to say more. The message Trump delivered to young men is this: Be afraid.
Which is not as good a message as don't assault women."


Dunno, I've seen plenty of non-violent men reel from even getting close to a woman when they're afraid of a lawsuit they can't win, so obviously it's working great.
Telling rapists not to assault women hasn't worked all too well, yet. Something to do with it being written into the law and being goddamned obvious or something.
 
I don't think Trump's answer is all that great, but honestly, what could he have said if he was on the other side?

"Men of America, don't rape. Don't do it. It's a very bad thing. Rape is very, very bad. Rape could get you arrested and fired. You don't want to be arrested. That's what'll happen if you rape."

Any response in support for #MeToo by Trump would probably be made fun of either way. Imagine all the hot takes in his Twitter replies.
 
I don't think Trump's answer is all that great, but honestly, what could he have said if he was on the other side?

"Men of America, don't rape. Don't do it. It's a very bad thing. Rape is very, very bad. Rape could get you arrested and fired. You don't want to be arrested. That's what'll happen if you rape."

Any response in support for #MeToo by Trump would probably be made fun of either way. Imagine all the hot takes in his Twitter replies.
But if he HAD said that, all the potential rapists would have said "Ohhh ok" and rape would be over forever
 
There is only one thing that can save men from the #metoo movement. One thing that will make all men utterly safe.

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Wearing this at all time will protect you from the metoo movement.
 
The answer's only obvious if you believe that there's a rape epidemic occurring in America. Trump's answer is probably closer to reality: there are more innocent men afraid of false or exaggerated rape accusations than there are genuine rapists. We have a social obligation to protect the majority from the panic and lynch mob mentality cultivated by the media. Trump's indelicate, but he's right.
 
Trump needs to learn that the best way for him to get out a message to the mainstream media is to use reverse psychology. I swear, if he were to come out tomorrow and call the women spearheading the #metoo movement noble and brave, we'd be see hundreds of articles decrying them as alt-right baby rapists.
 
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Always dwelled on what's going to bring #MeToo to an end or at least a slowdown and I think I've figured it out. A lot of women today are cheering on the whole thing with the chant of yaas kween slay and gurlpower, but when they realized they've entirely scared men out of the dating scene with this and they don't want to be single anymore, who's going to have to initiate the dating from now on?

At that point, it'll be the women that have to find out how fun it is to go through the cheesy pick-up lines, the footing of bills, the sweaty palms and the mountains of rejection.

Isn't it great? Everyone was talking about how the whole planet was being overpopulated and all it took to reverse that was a hashtag spearheaded by vapid aristocrats of the modern day Sodom and Gamorrah known as Hollywood
 
"Always I've heard you're innocent until proven guilty. I've heard this so long. It's such a beautiful phrase. In this case, you're guilty until proven innocent. I think that is a very dangerous standard for our country."
I bet you twitter is saying how wrong that is.
 
It was a softball because the single most obvious message a President could issue to young men right now is to respect women.
This is so disgustingly sexist. All the problems men go through and the only viable presidential message is "Respect Women."

So backwards is this message is that it could be reversed a century ago and no one would blink.
 
This is counterproductive. You can attack a person, an institution, but an idea or a movement?

You can’t really harm an idea, no matter how absurd. If that were true, we would have buried communism in its grave a long time ago.
 
You can absolutely kill an idea, but it is extremely bloody business. It has been tried in east asia. Usually by commies.
 
This is counterproductive. You can attack a person, an institution, but an idea or a movement?

You can’t really harm an idea, no matter how absurd. If that were true, we would have buried communism in its grave a long time ago.

Oh, no, you can absolutely attack an idea. In fact, arguing against it is valid. Pointing out the flaws in a movement is important. Bad ideas are the only ones that must be protected from scrutiny and debate.

If it weren't true that you can successfully attack and overcome an idea, we'd already be a communist nation.
 
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