💬 Off-Topic Transgender Legislation and Litigation

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Friends and family members can complete the survey you fucking mouth breathing retard.

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Kyle has steadily gotten fatter, balder, and dumber.

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Correlation does not equal causation fat boy.

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Then go ahead and cite the "science" that supports your fetish dumb dumb.

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This is the same fat, balding, slob who thinks troons have "winnable arguments."

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Remember when Snaggle Toothed retard Tony Reed kept insisting that troon bans were "absolutely unconstitutional?" I am waiting for his total a complete sperg out over this.

"WASHINGTON (AP) — The Supreme Court on Monday threw out appellate rulings in favor of transgender people in four states following the justices' recent decision upholding a Tennessee ban on certain medical treatment for transgender youths.
The high court ordered appellate judges to reexamine cases from Idaho, North Carolina, Oklahoma and West Virginia involving access to medical care and birth certificates. The action was unsurprising because the court had set the cases aside until after it decided the Tennessee case, as typically happens when the same legal issue is being considered. The rulings all included findings that the restrictions on transgender people imposed by the states violate the Constitution's equal protection clause. The justices ordered the 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Richmond, Virginia, to review its decision that West Virginia’s and North Carolina’s refusal to cover certain health care for transgender people with government-sponsored insurance is discriminatory. The San Francisco-based 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals will get back a case from Idaho stemming from the state's ban on certain surgical procedures for Medicaid recipients. The 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Denver will review its ruling blocking an Oklahoma ban on people changing their gender on birth certificates. In one other case, from Kentucky, the justices rejected the appeal of transgender minors and their families challenging that state’s ban on gender-affirming care."

Supreme Court throws out appellate rulings in favor of transgender people in 4 states
 
Not Dr. Evil said:
Remember when Snaggle Toothed retard Tony Reed kept insisting that troon bans were "absolutely unconstitutional?" I am waiting for his total a complete sperg out over this.
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I had just shared the details of those remands in the Skrmetti thread. Dis gun b gud.
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In its order list today, SCOTUS granted cert and remanded several cases back to their respective Circuit Courts for further consideration in light of Skrmetti. These cases include:

Crouch v. Anderson (4th Circuit):
1. Whether West Virginia violated the equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment by declining to cover surgical treatments for gender dysphoria; and
2. Whether West Virginia violated the Medicaid Act and the Affordable Care Act by declining to cover surgical treatments for gender dysphoria.

Folwell v. Kadel (4th Circuit):
Whether a State’s decision to decline to...
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Let me be blunt.

For years these troons have basically slathered themselves with meat juice and then walked into a lions den looking for a fight.

They finally got the fight they were looking for and lost badly.
 
If all forms of medicalization were illegal, do you think we'd see a drop-off in people transitioning? Because it's starting to look like people are only trying to get this care because it's available. I.E. Kate/Chase Strangio.
 
Stabby_Pencil said:
If all forms of medicalization were illegal, do you think we'd see a drop-off in people transitioning? Because it's starting to look like people are only trying to get this care because it's available. I.E. Kate/Chase Strangio.
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You mean treating it as a cosmetic treatment only? There would be a decrease but not to the point troons would disappear from public life - between social contagion + "gender care saves lives" becoming an article of faith the trenders + well-to-do troons (these groups are not mutually exclusive) aren't going to change what they're doing just because they have to pay more out of pocket. The ecosystem/cult around this stuff is just too large to go away overnight even if Trump really did impose Russia-tier laws against troons.

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Not Dr. Evil said:
Let me be blunt.

For years these troons have basically slathered themselves with meat juice and then walked into a lions den looking for a fight.

They finally got the fight they were looking for and lost badly.
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And any idiot could have seen the loss coming years in advance: SCOTUS has a 6-3 Republican majority, it was never going to rule that states have an absolute obligation to cover pediatric gender treatments even if the moderate + hardline conservatives disagreed on how far the ruling should go. All this litigation did was eliminate "but we could get pulled into an expensive lolsuit" as an argument against copycat laws in other states.
 
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Stabby_Pencil said:
If all forms of medicalization were illegal, do you think we'd see a drop-off in people transitioning? Because it's starting to look like people are only trying to get this care because it's available. I.E. Kate/Chase Strangio.
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Absolutely. There used to be way more hurdles to ensure the potential transexual knew exactly what was going to happen and how it would affect their life. They'd go through years of counseling and a holistic approach which would seek to eliminate any comorbidities that potentially caused the dysphoria to begin with like psychosis or BPD. Only then would they start several years of social transitioning before moving on to increasingly more risky treatments like hormones and surgery if (and only if) milder treatment was found to be ineffective. Its insane that the social contagion community that's cropped up around it now sees this as a form of inhumane gatekeeping and not safeguarding the mentally ill from choices that could destroy their lives. You listen to almost any destransitioner and they all sing the same song about wishing they had more pushback.

Also, you generally don't diagnose children or teens with personality disorders, because there's a chance they'll grow out of it/it'll be found to be something else by the time they're adults. You didn't have "trans kids" when there were safety rails on the ride.

It wouldn't get rid of the weird culture overnight that's popped up around it, but roadblocks will always dissuade those less committed to the cause, in the same way that they had to come up with "nonbinary" to excuse those of their number who wanted to put no effort into the larp. You'd also see medical tourism rise from the ones that have the money and means to get the fucked up experimental treatments elsewhere, but they would return to being the minority.
 
$5.3 Million Dollars said:
There used to be way more hurdles to ensure the potential transexual knew exactly what was going to happen and how it would affect their life. They'd go through years of counseling and a holistic approach which would seek to eliminate any comorbidities that potentially caused the dysphoria to begin with like psychosis or BPD.
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Yes. In fact, this was the entire premise of The Silence of the Lambs: the bad guy (Buffalo Bill/Jame Gumb) had severe mental illnesses from childhood on, stemming from a fixation on his mother. At some point he just decided that he was going to be a woman, and applied for sex reassignment at the then-few facilities that offered it. But because they did their due diligence on him and found out about his criminal history and saw what a psychotic fuck he was, they turned him down; he wasn't a "real" transsexual according to the rules that were in place. Hence his decision to make a girl suit out of girls for himself.

Not that any of our modern trannies would ever do anything like that. They're all totally sane victims of hateful phobes, they would never resort to violence spurred on by their delusions.
 
You can feel the panic setting in now that "dead son or live daughter" has been soundly thrashed by the SCOTUS and the cry bully routine no longer works.
 
Not Dr. Evil said:
You can feel the panic setting in now that "dead son or live daughter" has been soundly thrashed by the SCOTUS and the cry bully routine no longer works.
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Of course, this is no time to put our feet up and get complacent, as usually happens when we score a rare win. Keep the pressure on, keep the lawsuits rolling, keep the truth in full view.
 
Stabby_Pencil said:
That will definitely turn normal people against troons real fast if their loved ones can't get actual care.
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I doubt it'll get that far.
If they're told all their money is going to stop because of their involvement in made up tranny medicine, they'll soon ditch it to stay in business.
 
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