💬 Off-Topic Transgender Legislation and Litigation

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AssignedEva said:
The argument that's being raised here is that by now reading the Equality Act as requiring trans people to use the facilities of their birth sex, this is contradicting the ECHR ruling that the UK already insisted it was obeying - and that it also specifically could be a violation of Article 8 as it could require trans people to out themselves by noticeably changing what toilet they're using could result in a breach of the right to privacy, as it requires disclosure of trans status (which is what GRCs are supposed to prevent). This isn't relevant for the majority of trans service users as most trans people don't have a GRC, but I do disagree Article 8 completely wouldn't apply - it could form the basis of a legal challenge, although I'm inclined to think as the other relevant detriments have been lessened there's no guarantee of any one particular verdict. May try doing some sort of digging into the Equality laws of other member states.
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They get very excited about Article 8 but they never bother to read it.



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Which is the bedrock on which the Equality Act and the recent ruling is built: balancing the rights of different groups.

ECHR rulings are little more than suggestions.
 
Not Dr. Evil said:
Why does Pocahontas want to troon the kids?

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ROFLMAO at anyone citing "The Wide Latina"
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Sorry Eli,

But the decision confirmed in precise detail that (1) there is no actual consensus anywhere, (2) troonery is not legitmate healthcare, and (3) trooning out has never saved anyone's life.

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It'd be hypocritical of Pocahantas to deny anyone the fantasy of being something they're not.
 
OttoWest said:
What will happen first, legally speaking- troons out of female sports or troons out of female prisons? Because at least one of them is going to step up to the legal plate sooner rather than later.
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Troons out of sports will happen first. It's far more visible to the general public.
 
Stabby_Pencil said:
Troons out of sports will happen first. It's far more visible to the general public.
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And prisoners are inherently less sympathetic, all other things being equal. Many people's default reaction to women prisoners dealing with troons is "well maybe you shouldn't have broken the law then".
 
OttoWest said:
What will happen first, legally speaking- troons out of female sports or troons out of female prisons? Because at least one of them is going to step up to the legal plate sooner rather than later.
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Stabby_Pencil said:
Troons out of sports will happen first. It's far more visible to the general public.
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UncleTusky said:
And prisoners are inherently less sympathetic, all other things being equal. Many people's default reaction to women prisoners dealing with troons is "well maybe you shouldn't have broken the law then".
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Female prisoners were already struggling to get adequate healthcare access (including adequate period supplies) as it is. If the troon in prison situation improves, then it won’t be for a good while. Prisons are usually the last places to see rights and conditions improve after they happen.
 
Ultra privleged coddled Harvard troon with unearned and undeserved six figure salary thinks he is "oppressed."

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ACLU pooner Kate Strangio is the trannies "best and brightest"

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This is pure cope.

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Not Dr. Evil said:
ACLU pooner Kate Strangio is the trannies "best and brightest"

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He's quoting this NYT piece that came out this am: https://archive.ph/hHgR7 It's long and eye crossing in parts (and remarkably almost unbiased in others which was interesting for the NYT) but there are other choice quotes from Kate in it that illustrate just how bat shit insane she really is.
 
They are not even remotely close to the same or similar issues Fat Dumb Gay Al. Furthermore, unhinged extremist lunatic like YOU, Tony Reed, Banana Wu, Eli Erlick, and Zinnia Jones absolutely caused this outcome and the blame falls squarely on YOUR shoulders.

I also noticed that Fat Dumb Gay Al is trying to have it both ways. "Born this way" and "bodily autonomy" are mutually exclusive propositions.

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Telling mentally ill cross dressing sex pests NO for the first time in their lives is TOTALLY THE SAME as sending people to the camps or declaraing peolpe can be personal property.

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Not Dr. Evil said:
They are not even remotely close to the same or similar issues Fat Dumb Gay Al. Furthermore, unhinged extremist lunatic like YOU, Tony Reed, Banana Wu, Eli Erlick, and Zinnia Jones absolutely caused this outcome and the blame falls squarely on YOUR shoulders.

I also noticed that Fat Dumb Gay Al is trying to have it both ways. "Born this way" and "bodily autonomy" are mutually exclusive propositions.

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Telling mentally ill cross dressing sex pests NO for the first time in their lives is TOTALLY THE SAME as sending people to the camps or declaraing peolpe can be personal property.

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I'm starting to wonder if the HRT cocktails these fuckers are on impair reading comprehension. They really need to stop conflating two vastly different issues together, but they won't and they will continue on like the loser retards they are.
 
Stabby_Pencil said:
I'm starting to wonder if the HRT cocktails these fuckers are on impair reading comprehension. They really need to stop conflating two vastly different issues together, but they won't and they will continue on like the loser retards they are.
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We know it does for sure. There were peer reviwed studies that show troon juice shrinks your brain.

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Sex-steroid hormones are primarily involved in sexual differentiation and development and are thought to underlie processes related to cognition and emotion. However, divergent results have been reported concerning the effects of hormone administration on brain structure including side effects like brain atrophy and dementia. Cross-sex hormone therapy in transgender subjects offers a unique model for studying the effects of sex hormones on the living human brain. In this study, 25 Female-to-Male (FtM) and 14 Male-to-Female (MtF) subjects underwent MRI examinations at baseline and after a period of at least 4-months of continuous cross-sex hormone administration. While MtFs received estradiol and anti-androgens, FtM subjects underwent high-dose testosterone treatment. The longitudinal processing stream of the FreeSurfer software suite was used for the automated assessment and delineation of brain volumes to assess the structural changes over the treatment period of cross-sex hormone administration. Most prominent results were found for MtFs receiving estradiol and anti-androgens in the form of significant decreases in the hippocampal region. Further analysis revealed that these decreases were reflected by increases in the ventricles. Additionally, changes in progesterone levels correlated with changes in gray matter structures in MtF subjects. In line with prior studies, our results indicate hormonal influences on subcortical structures related to memory and emotional processing. Additionally, this study adds valuable knowledge that progesterone may play an important role in this process.

Subcortical gray matter changes in transgender subjects after long-term cross-sex hormone administration
 
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