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This fucking comic is midway between being awesome and cringy "OC do not steal" garbage
I really like some stuff they're doing with it but it REALLY goes out of its way to make me want to stop reading it.
Carly's van turning into an 80's rock band robot that they were super enthusiastic about introducing was the first of this shit and they just keep doing it.
I'm kinda surprised that they made Arcee a Magnus that quickly. Felt kinda rushed to me. Also terrible name, should've gone with Arcana Magnus. Makes more sense, otherwise UM's old name would just be "Ultra."
 
I'm kinda surprised that they made Arcee a Magnus that quickly. Felt kinda rushed to me. Also terrible name, should've gone with Arcana Magnus. Makes more sense, otherwise UM's old name would just be "Ultra."
You ended up somehow reminding me how a bunch of transformers stuff used to imply magnus was Optimus' friend Dion from the flashback segment in g1 that also got shot even if it never got brought up or hinted at in the original cartoon which would kinda make sense given he's implied to have known magnus really closely and how his gf got repaired into a more powerful form too. IIRC they "deconfirmed" it sometime during the IDW era of things and haven't treated them as the same guy in anything since that but I'm too lazy to check.

It's kinda fucking retarded IMO to "deboonk" that the guy that's basically an orange orion pax recolor with shoulder pylons gets rebuilt into a white optimus prime recolor in a red and blue armor suit that has shoulder pylons.
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EDIT: looked it up, wiki page says it got deconfirmed TWENTY FIVE YEARS AFTER THE EPISODE AIRED by hasbro.
 
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You ended up somehow reminding me how a bunch of transformers stuff used to imply magnus was Optimus' friend Dion from the flashback segment in g1 that also got shot even if it never got brought up or hinted at in the original cartoon which would kinda make sense given he's implied to have known magnus really closely and how his gf got repaired into a more powerful form too. IIRC they "deconfirmed" it sometime during the IDW era of things and haven't treated them as the same guy in anything since that but I'm too lazy to check.

It's kinda fucking retarded IMO to "deboonk" that the guy that's basically an orange orion pax recolor with shoulder pylons gets rebuilt into a white optimus prime recolor in a red and blue armor suit that has shoulder pylons.
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EDIT: looked it up, wiki page says it got deconfirmed TWENTY FIVE YEARS AFTER THE EPISODE AIRED by hasbro.
The writer intended for Dion and Ariel to die. The story editors added the dialogue about Ariel becoming Elita, and it made sense.
 
The writer intended for Dion and Ariel to die. The story editors added the dialogue about Ariel becoming Elita, and it made sense.
Yes and it'd also make sense by that logic that dion would end up being magnus due to visual similarities. Some versions of magnus he's literally optimus prime's twin brother but I can't remember if those versions had the whole orion pax origin for optimus or if he was just always optimus in those.


...And then there's transformers one that basically just makes Dion and Megatron the same guy.
 
Trialbreaker's forcefield seems to be a ability he needs to manually activate, rather then one which permeates passively or activates instinctively, which would explain why Megatron could kill him with a ambush. I do wish we will see more Transformers using their superpowers if they possess them, rather then being beholden to their weapons and brawling
 
Trialbreaker's forcefield seems to be a ability he needs to manually activate, rather then one which permeates passively or activates instinctively, which would explain why Megatron could kill him with a ambush. I do wish we will see more Transformers using their superpowers if they possess them, rather then being beholden to their weapons and brawling
I figured the forcefield was just him not activating it which is why I was talking about creative ways to get rid of a dude who has a personal forcefield he can turn on. The way earlier post I was reacting to read it made me think he just didn't use it because writers didn't know about it or didn't care, but the ambush thing would be another obvious exploit to kill a forcefield bitch.


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I realized I never rambled about the new sideways in here, could have sworn I did but I can't find it.
It's yet another example of modern Transformers designers being allergic to any kind of engineering outside of "pull out something and then fold it back in in a fucked up way to do something a sliding joint could have done easier" but somehow worse and uglier than usual.
...Also the uneccesary partsforming.


I didn't realize it till i saw this video of an "early review copy" but the backpack on the thing is too close to the head to the point the added head articulation becomes pointless and the position of everything looks gross and cramped one way or bloated and disproportionately lanky in others.
He keeps calling any issue that happens with the figure's tolerances "oh because it's an early test sample" but that's clearly a finished product and these kind of tolerance issues have been present in final release figures constantly. I don't buy it for a moment it's just gonna be on this review copy.

Looks like if you want an anime accurate one that's not shit you're just gonna have to get a used copy of the original and mod it to have articulation going off tutorials on how to do that from like 2008.

it'd be an "ok" figure if it wasn't for the skimped on engineering and the fucking FOURTY TWO US DOLLARS PLUS TAX PRICETAG JESUS FUCK.

ALSO THEY FUCKED UP THE COLORS ON THE HEADS LIKELY AS A PAINT BUDGET SAVING THING I KNOW THAT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP BEFORE BUT FUCK

EDITX2: So fucking glad to have my OG sideways from hen I was a kid still, found a few listings online for beat up ones that aren't price gouging levels of cost but missing parts, may get one sometime either on or offline if I can find it to mod it a bit. Somehow spending $40 on a 20 year old $15 toy when including shipping is less egregious feeling than paying $42 for a deluxe marked as a voyager NOT including shipping with engineering fucky wuckied due to whatever BS excuse they'll come up with.

I don't have and cannot for the life of me afford a 3d printer but I found out that people have made 3d printable kits of various quality to bring the original figure up to modern articulation standards.
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I'd 100% be trying to use these if I had the shit to holy fuck
EDITX3: Between the time of making this post and this edit, I went through a moment where I thought I actually misremembered still having my old sideways and scoured the Internet in a slightly half awake stupor to try and find one for a decent price that wasn't $40+ dollars. I succeeded and got a beat up one coming soon from a really weird place I found a listing on. Not going into the weird Internet adventure I went on but just know it wasn't nightmare modern prices and was missing one of his heads.

...I then noticed my old one in a clear storage box getting beamed by the sun in another room with some mego figures and a weird plushie looking thing that very likely has not been opened in like 12-15 years. I'm going to open the box soon and whatever possible decade old funk is in it will be released into the air. So now I'm gonna have two of this fucker but i am not aiming to rip apart either one for the custom work. I'll save that for if I find an even cheaper one. Why keep both? Well one's the original from when I was a kid and one's the purple chest variant.
 
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Do you guys think anime can save Transformers like it did in the 2000s?
My honest opinion would be yes, but as with many things, Transformers will once again need to evolve. What worked for Takara in the 1980's, 90's and early 2000's wouldn't be a repeated success since anime is a hyper competitive industry and Transformers seriously needs to capitalize on its massive mythos through the various comics, mangas, old shows, printed text stories and even games. There's a lot you could do with a new Transformers anime that caters to a more older audience and i think that would be the proper direction for success if Takara were to pursue a new Transformers anime. I genuinely like Takara's catalog of Transformers media with Victory being my favorite anime and since Hasbro apparently has plans for a new Skybound show, i think Takara should absolutely try once again for a Transformers anime and create a story that's more enjoyed by older fans, it could even be a great chance to represent characters that haven't had a great animated incarnation yet, like Bludgeon and Spinister
 
Do you guys think anime can save Transformers like it did in the 2000s?
I have zero confidence in any western studio giving us a good storyline, at least nowadays. No one wants cartoons that aren't some fruity Steven Universe knock-off, or Optimus Prime and His Super Pals. And the showrunners are just as bad. Get these kids some stock footage and impact frames and make it super robot as fuck.
 
Do you guys think anime can save Transformers like it did in the 2000s?
It's more beast wars did that in the 90s but then the Armada-Cybertron anime times definitely boosted it even further. I've said it before in other threads about how it's fucking weird how since mid 2010s internet talk amidst media people about anime shit is "oh anime just became mainstream right now for the first time ever!" Every fucking time some popular anime comes out, but this weirdness extends to Transformers thanks to the 2000s transformers anime somehow.

It's a really weird case where they act like it was some obscure black mark thing that nobody knew about and the Michael bay 2007 movie was the revival of Transformers which is really weird because they on other days act like Beast wars was the revival of Transformers. While there's a decade-ish long difference between them it doesn't make any fucking sense to act like the Movie deal spawned out of nowhere and after beast wars ended transformers just vanished into obscurity. Or the fact people now scalp the shit out of stuff from the time between those two points because "value speculators" latched onto them.

It's kind of Hilarious to me how theoretically there's enough transformers media now where you could literally just rerun old shows, make new toys that aren't dogshit for kids based on them, and print money more or less. No I'm not counting the generations stuff that's now basically become fragile small adult collector focused figures with bad QC and skimped paint detail. Old chug would be a better example of stuff still aimed at kids with good quality for adult collectors too, but that was also coming out when the UT was still a thing.

For almost 20 fucking years the JP version of this megatron was $40 on ebay and I still kinda want it but I'm not paying 80+ for it in increasingly beat up condition so I'll keep my original wherever it is and the platinum series reissue deco from a decade back that's more g1 accurate but with red arms and wings. That doesn't feel like 10 years ago and it's fucking with me.
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There's some QC issues on the 2 pack one though like many a transformer he last decade. IIRC his leg ratchets are misaligned or something. Still cool though.

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Kinda wish the arms had a bit more silver or black so they didn't blend into the wings.
 
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I've said it before in other threads about how it's fucking weird how since mid 2010s internet talk amidst media people about anime shit is "oh anime just became mainstream right now for the first time ever!" Every fucking time some popular anime comes out, but this weirdness extends to Transformers thanks to the 2000s transformers anime somehow.
That's because people with phones started watching anime.
Their opinions don't count. Anime was plenty popular in Asian countries, enough so we got plenty of dedicated channels to it.
 
That's because people with phones started watching anime.
Their opinions don't count. Anime was plenty popular in Asian countries, enough so we got plenty of dedicated channels to it.
My point was it was popular int he US as well. Still though, even before beast wars and the anime reboots happened g1 had several asian exclusive seasons which kind of makes the odd lull in transformers stuff way back when a hasbro market exclusive thing.
 
last year we had the studio trigger video of the 40th anniversary of the transformers brand and it was low budget AF, and it still was amazing.
if anything, they need to do another armada like anime show where kids need to collect parts for a power up or something to that effect.

i annoyed my wife and put all my titans next to eachother to see what the scale is, and it shocked me how tiny tidalwave is.(don't pick on devastator, he is far more complex then the rest) IMG_20260111_190635159.jpg
 
another armada like anime show where kids need to collect parts for a power up or something to that effect.
What made armada cool was you didn't need to collect parts from other sets to get functions, that's more a modern hasbro thing with how they wall off shit like the ion blaster for devastation prime or minicons to an exclusive upmarked box set.

Armada figures came with not only the normal transformer but the minicon partner that could always clip on and activate something, and sometimes drive the vehicle mode of the larger transformer, and then the minicons came in 3 packs where they'd sometimes have features like geared motion you could move for them on their own or plug them into a transformer (really just cyclonus) with the gear system shit and by activating one gimmick it also made the minicon movement gimmick happen at the same time. Also the minicon combiners where they plugged together to make weapons those guys were really important in the plot but also affordable because minicons were cheap back then.

I just wish I bought some of the random boosters they had back in the day when they were still cheap and available at hobby shops that carried imports because those had some really cool variant versions that are now scalped to shit on ebay due to being takara shit. Scalpers are insane with Transformers but especially the Takara releases for some reason. Super mode starscream/thundercracker's US release is 30-50 dollars used, but then the same people want 300-500 for the Takara version which only has one major difference in the fact the decepticon symbols are outlined.

Still yeah obviously they need solid gimmicks and non-gimped not hollow and overpriced figures but they don't seem to be aiming to do that anytime soon.
 
I'd like to see a new anime done without Hasbro's boot on their neck like with the Unicron trilogy. Hasbro gave them so many notes, especially on Armada, that it made it very difficult for the Japanese writers to tell stories.
Then again, I didn't really care for Transformers Go that much and that was a solo Takaratomy project. Transformers Go was too kiddy and Kiss Players was too adult. They need to strike a nice balance in the middle.
 
Kiss Players was too adult.
Kiss players was trying to be the first specifically teen/adult oriented transformers which would be fine but then they also like tried chasing every media trend that was popular with those groups at the time leading to absolute schizophrenia combo of moeblob character art, extremely vile grotesque looking type edgy yet kinda cool concepts like the zombie megatron clones, and extremely unfortunate pervy shit slapped in there too in places it don't belong. it's one of those things where you can see what they were trying to do but they fucked up the execution really fucking bad though the figures were cool. Despite being alternators repaints/retools they were also pretty much proto-human alliance in that they came with a human that could fit in the seats and shit.

I said it before I think but I'll say it again I am never going to respect the "influencers" that do shit like frame the generic cybertronian autotrooper as better than the concept of "reverse engineered artificially mass produced transformers made by humans" the autorooper originally was because those people skirt the actual concept itself every fucking time and subvert it into reddity holier than thou tirades about the rest of kiss players. It's really funny because you can go back tot he time the thing was first coming out and the takes are a lot more sane in a way that feels like someone actually seeing and thinking about shit instead of parroting a transformers video essay. it's kind of funny because the transformers animated autotrooper which is where the generic cybertronian ones were from was meant as a nod to kiss players so it makes the purity test shit about it even more gay somehow because you got people acting like a thing that was meant to be a visual reference to another thing that came out just a few years beforehand at that point is somehow extremely superior and a moral high ground thing...

...But then again these are the same people that think any decepticon with an out there or cool fucking origin or motivation should just be re-imagined as "a loyal decepticon general" who wither wants to fuck megatron or gets abused by him or both basically making them talk like a bootleg tarn.

TL;DR another rambling about how kiss players is fucked but the people that talk about it end up being more gay somehow

Also I am sleep deprived and multitasking so shit might not be coming out too clear

now give me my fucking venom tongue zombie megatron clone figure you HACKS or I'll make it myself
 
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...But then again these are the same people that think any decepticon with an out there or cool fucking origin or motivation should just be re-imagined as "a loyal decepticon general" who wither wants to fuck megatron or gets abused by him or both basically making them talk like a bootleg tarn.
Also these exact same people will complain that everything is G1, that Hasbro prioritizes that universe too much and it's starting to ruin modern day fiction. Then they turn around and want to recycle the same fucking character archetypes over and over again with barely any differentiation. Makes me appreciate the Takara shows just that much more because characters there are legitimately distinct and entertaining to see
 
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