💬 Off-Topic Trans Kiwifarmers Discussion Thread - Just what it says on the tin

[pork and beans]

I don't wanna tell them I'm trans. It's unnecessary. Not at least until their adults. I don't even want my kids to use internet until they're adults (not sure if it's possible tho).

I don't think you should tell children about tranny stuff at all. This issue is too niche and they don't need info about it.

Children aren’t retarded. They will ask about why you don’t look like whoever, same way they ask about why their eye color is such or why some people are big and others small. Children ask about everything and that includes parents and family, because they are new to the world and everything is a discovery.
If you think you can just not tell them, or even worse, that they won’t perceive anything particular… you’re living in a delusion. And if you think lying to them for your own benefit is normal or ethical, thats also deeply weird.

Edit sorry for the double post lol I was catching up with the thread

 

[DYLAN ‘DIELAWN’ VOLK]

Nobody on the site talked about Keffals except to laugh at how weird and gross he was until he fucked with us. I'm not gonna let retards rewrite history here like they try to everywhere else. He was only relevant as a boring joke or to sick gay men with low standards in denial.

 

[113]

I would probably be lying if I didn't say that one of my reasons for lurking on this site is to stave off the idea of transitioning, as I do have some mild dysphoria and I did consider trooning out multiple times. Laughing/hating that shit away helps a lot, as does learning about the roots of these thoughts from a less pozzed psychological standpoint.

sucks to admit, but I have discovered the site through keffals about a year before I started lurking.

I don't think I'm transgender though. I was 14 when I started questioning it, being raised by a single mother & only ever having female friends - subsequently interests, and not acting how people wanted me to enough. sounds kind of retarded, but as a child it did feel very isolating.

I think I just chucked up all that into convincing myself that I was the issue, as, "All this would feel normal if I was a girl."
That's when I started to talk with people that were trans online, as it was a place to express some of that frustration for the first time.
In retrospect, it's obvious how unhealthy that was, since it didn't come from some inherent urge to be the other gender, but more so from a place of not wanting to be a man.

Body dysphoria is weird, because I'm the happiest I've ever been now, and I've opened up to taking a more masculine role. but during the years of having observed myself through the lens of "What is stopping me from my goal", I developed genuine hatred and self harmed over it.
Not going to police or act like I'm above it, but it's why the suicide jokes kind of sting. I don't imagine it's the porn obsessed AGP's that are there to jerk off and fuck each other feeling that way.

 

[sheepworldvizor]

In retrospect, it's obvious how unhealthy that was, since it didn't come from some inherent urge to be the other gender, but more so from a place of not wanting to be a man.

Many such cases.

 

[█████████]

Not going to police or act like I'm above it, but it's why the suicide jokes kind of sting. I don't imagine it's the porn obsessed AGP's that are there to jerk off and fuck each other feeling that way.

I used to know a lot of trannies and nonbinaries in real-life. The porn-obsessed polyamorous gooner OnlyFans furry puppygirl fetish freaks also have suicidal ideations too. Feeling suicidal is not exclusive to the "good ones". The freakish ones might even get disowned more often by their family, since those kinds make no attempt to hide their degeneracy.

 

[Super Mario Brothers]

the sheer obessiveness of this site pushed me back into being more pro trans again.

I get that every other website has turned into a circlejerk where you have to all agree on the same opinions on politics, but you realize you don't have to do that, right? You don't have to flip back between the "anti-trans" and "pro-trans" hugboxes. Like I go here because I can criticize trans idealogy but I'm still very "left" on certain issues that many users on site may disagree with. If anything you shouldn't let hugboxes determine your stance on the trans issue, and instead look into hard facts.

This makes me nostalgic for the Before Times where every online space wasn't a corporate backed political echo chamber.

I used to know a lot of trannies and nonbinaries in real-life. The porn-obsessed polyamorous gooner OnlyFans furry puppygirl fetish freaks also have suicidal ideations too. Feeling suicidal is not exclusive to the "good ones". The freakish ones might even get disowned more often by their family, since those kinds make no attempt to hide their degeneracy.

Porn addiction is drug addiction but with free "drugs." There are the high functioning addicts, and then there are the "crackheads" who need to put porn in everything they do, harass other people over it, blow all their money on "dealers" and in general become absolute menaces. Obviously they have mental problems but they're past the point of being helped because they don't want help, and in a brief moment of sobriety they're faced with getting high again or doing something drastic.

Going trans involves actual drugs you take forever, so maybe its not just an analogy.

 

[Magic Pickle]

the sheer obessiveness of this site pushed me back into being more pro trans again.

If you can look at creatures like yeep-yorp and StinkyPrincess17 and then somehow become more pro-tranny because of farmers taking umbrage towards their revolting behavior, that's a sincerely Islamic amount of contrarianism. Genuinely not sure what sticker to even rate you with.

 

[Grub]

I get that every other website has turned into a circlejerk where you have to all agree on the same opinions on politics, but you realize you don't have to do that, right? You don't have to flip back between the "anti-trans" and "pro-trans" hugboxes

Even the forums you think aren't pro tranny hugboxes inevitably get overrun by trannies who have nothing better to do than take over forums and impose their will on everyone. It's not even the trannies themselves that bother me so much but their obnoxious posting style and over usage of annoying as fuck anime girl gifs in their posts.

 

[Super Mario Brothers]

yeep-yorp and StinkyPrincess17

Those are indeed some usernames

Even the forums you think aren't pro tranny hugboxes inevitably get overrun by trannies who have nothing better to do than take over forums and impose their will on everyone. It's not even the trannies themselves that bother me so much but their obnoxious posting style and over usage of annoying as fuck anime girl gifs in their posts.

Wplace made me MATI in a way I didn't think was possible.

 

[Grub]

Wplace made me MATI in a way I didn't think was possible.

I started posting in some video game forums a little while ago. They were relatively new forums so didn't have much of a userbase at first. I got to watch in real time as the conversations went from videogames and roms and stuff to trannies taking over mod positions and the forums being flooded with a bunch of shit about gender and gooner shit. The regular users still outnumber the trannies by a fair margin but any kind of pushback against the tranny shit is shot down immediately by the tranny jannies to the point where the website has almost imploded a few times already because of users being banned over tranny shit. The website owner ended up removing the ability of the jannies to ban people because he was tired of all the bullshit. I barely visit the site any more because it's just not worth it.

 

[Shakira Flabbergasted]

The majority of people have friends, family, and work to think about, so they don't have the time and energy to fight back and protect their forums. These people eventually end up leaving to make a new online space, which will eventually get discovered and overrun by Discord troons. It's similar to how trannies reproduce by grooming other people's kids. Lacking the ability or drive to create, they can only pervert and destroy what others have created.

 

[Platonic Ideal]

Even the forums you think aren't pro tranny hugboxes inevitably get overrun by trannies who have nothing better to do than take over forums and impose their will on everyone

I think a big part of it is that the trans community encourages narcissism due to hugboxing, so they show up in new communities expecting to be given the red carpet. They do not seem to understand that being free to post what you want does not mean that you are also free from the consequences of being annoying.

Once normal people start noticing the flood of anime memes, furry memes, boykisser memes, and transbian memes, people get irritated, they complain, and because all of those things are trans adjacent, any kind of pushback MUST be transphobia which is not what the GOOD GUYS do.

Since jannies are typically sympathetic or trans themselves, they side with the flood, and the community is now captured. Afterwards they'll start saying it's ALWAYS been a major trans thing because Optimus Prime turns into a truck and that made me realize I had the strength in me to transform into a woman therefore Transformers is a tranny allegory so shut up chud

That's when I started to talk with people that were trans online, as it was a place to express some of that frustration for the first time.
In retrospect, it's obvious how unhealthy that was, since it didn't come from some inherent urge to be the other gender, but more so from a place of not wanting to be a man

A similar background to myself, so I can relate. The trans community can really be very welcoming and kind, which is why a lot of lonely or mentally unwell people begin to see transitioning as the only way to finally be happy. When I was really going through it, they were some of the only people to tell me that I really mattered.

 

[a kiwifarms user]

Afterwards they'll start saying it's ALWAYS been a major trans thing because Optimus Prime turns into a truck and that made me realize I had the strength in me to transform into a woman therefore Transformers is a tranny allegory so shut up chud

You just triggered several online flashbacks with that one and that is the type of thing that made me flock to the farms in the first place back then. Only with that sort of thing it wasn't just trans but gay too. Every media that featured some character not fitting in some way meant that character was gay/trans, because that is the only way someone can feel like an outsider, and if you didn't think this character was gay/trans you hated gay/trans people.

I get that every other website has turned into a circlejerk where you have to all agree on the same opinions on politics, but you realize you don't have to do that, right? You don't have to flip back between the "anti-trans" and "pro-trans" hugboxes. Like I go here because I can criticize trans idealogy but I'm still very "left" on certain issues that many users on site may disagree with. If anything you shouldn't let hugboxes determine your stance on the trans issue, and instead look into hard facts.

This makes me nostalgic for the Before Times where every online space wasn't a corporate backed political echo chamber.

I think I must have expressed myself poorly because what you're saying is exactly what I mean. Admittedly I can be a contrarian but what put me off with kiwifarms was seing people mention someone being trans and instantly concluding they fucked kids, or the few new fags at the time making threads on someone just because they were trans and thinking to myself "damn, maybe we really are assholes".

And that's not including the sheer hyporcisy of some of the (mostly edgy male) users complaining about trans people reinforcing gender roles (I like x so I'm y) then going on to say the exact same things when talking about how much they hate women/men. The gender stereotypes are a large part of why I hated certain trans stuff in the first place.

Many such cases.

I thought the cliche was pooners not wanting to deal with the shit of being a woman? Or did you mean regardless of gender? Maybe it is restrictive gender roles fucking people over. I just hate it's no longer possible to say "I don't behave like a typical x" without second guessing if that means "i am not an x". Again, one of the reason I found the more incely posters here (and terfs on other sites) hypocritical.

If you can look at creatures like yeep-yorp and StinkyPrincess17 and then somehow become more pro-tranny because of farmers taking umbrage towards their revolting behavior, that's a sincerely Islamic amount of contrarianism. Genuinely not sure what sticker to even rate you with.

Never heard of those people. Those were the kinds that drove me to the farms in the first place. Not the ones that drove me away.

I know posting memes is low hanging fruit but I came across this randomly on 4chan during that time and it is legitimatly accurate to how browsing kiwifarms during the keffals saga was.

A similar background to myself, so I can relate. The trans community can really be very welcoming and kind, which is why a lot of lonely or mentally unwell people begin to see transitioning as the only way to finally be happy. When I was really going through it, they were some of the only people to tell me that I really mattered.

I sadly don't have it screenshotted but I remember seing a comment once by someone who thought they were trans and the person who helped them realize they weren't was their trans partner of all people. Probably the healthiest option.

I do believe some people can be genuinely trans (see the bit about fetal development) and have displayed genuine signs since childhood without any outside input but it is treated as somewhat of a panacea too. Ironically I think Chris Chan is one of those truly trans people. Chris was expressing severe discomfort with having a penis before any of this became mainstream.

 

[Super Mario Brothers]

I do believe some people can be genuinely trans (see the bit about fetal development) and have displayed genuine signs since childhood without any outside input but it is treated as somewhat of a panacea too. Ironically I think Chris Chan is one of those truly trans people. Chris was expressing severe discomfort with having a penis before any of this became mainstream.

Chris Chan had a questionable relationship with reality (especially concerning the Sonichu comic) before the Dimensional Merge saga. This isn't really the point you think it is.

 

[NoCockatrice]

Gonna rant a little bit (someone has to keep the thread alive).

It sucks so much to be a right wing tranny. It's being intelligent enough to understand you're fucked up, but being too mentally ill to overcome it.
And as a result, you feel alien in both political groups: lefts dislike you because "You're too mean and unwholesome", rights dislike you cuz tranny (even though, I must say, rightwingers are far more chill and acceptable then lefts like to paint them, that's what I stick with the righties (this, and my own values)).

Sometimes I think I would be happier as a leftoid. They seem so blissfully unaware of shit around them, constantly hiding away in a blanket of nostalgia and other kiddy shit. I don't know if they're truly happy, but I think it is more convenient to be one (not even in political sense: they just have a more easy way of thinking of "the world is wrong and bad and I am the mistreated").

Don't get me wrong, I don't think their life is gonna be great in the future. Most of them are gonna end up as childless losers. And it's due to them being fucked up, but at least they don't know it.

Have anyone also felt that way?

Do you think it's better to be so naive you're unaware of things around you or being fairly insightful, but insightful of some depressing shit? This question is not about tranny topic specifically, just in general.

 

[a pissing jar]

Hey faggots, I have a genuine question.
How does a woman go from being a lesbian to a trans-man that likes men?


Someone just told me this shit and it's fucking with me.

 

[Baraadmirer]

Hey faggots, I have a genuine question.
How does a woman go from being a lesbian to a trans-man that likes men?


Someone just told me this shit and it's fucking with me.

A combination of peer pressure and attention whoredom.

 

[NoCockatrice]

Hey faggots, I have a genuine question.
How does a woman go from being a lesbian to a trans-man that likes men?


Someone just told me this shit and it's fucking with me.

you cannot go from strictly liking only women to liking men. If it happens - the person in question had always liked men as well (or even men exclusively).

And don't forget that people call themselves gay/lesbian for attention or out of desperation these days.

 

[Slideshow Bill]

Gonna rant a little bit (someone has to keep the thread alive).

It sucks so much to be a right wing tranny. It's being intelligent enough to understand you're fucked up, but being too mentally ill to overcome it.
And as a result, you feel alien in both political groups: lefts dislike you because "You're too mean and unwholesome", rights dislike you cuz tranny (even though, I must say, rightwingers are far more chill and acceptable then lefts like to paint them, that's what I stick with the righties (this, and my own values)).

Sometimes I think I would be happier as a leftoid. They seem so blissfully unaware of shit around them, constantly hiding away in a blanket of nostalgia and other kiddy shit. I don't know if they're truly happy, but I think it is more convenient to be one (not even in political sense: they just have a more easy way of thinking of "the world is wrong and bad and I am the mistreated").

Don't get me wrong, I don't think their life is gonna be great in the future. Most of them are gonna end up as childless losers. And it's due to them being fucked up, but at least they don't know it.

Have anyone also felt that way?

Do you think it's better to be so naive you're unaware of things around you or being fairly insightful, but insightful of some depressing shit? This question is not about tranny topic specifically, just in general.

Don't discount the leftists that also think trannyism is retarded.

Most of them are gonna end up as childless losers.

Hell of a statement coming from a troon/poon.

Hey faggots, I have a genuine question.
How does a woman go from being a lesbian to a trans-man that likes men?


Someone just told me this shit and it's fucking with me.

a. She thinks having a low libido makes her a lesbian. She takes a substance that increases her libido, and accepts her attraction to men.
b. She is bisexual, and bisexual women love calling themselves lesbians and then hopping on dick, much to the chagrin of the true and honest muff divers.
c. She is straight and called herself a lesbian because she is an attention whore.

 

[NoCockatrice]

Hell of a statement coming from a troon/poon.

I'm going to have a family and children, my condition will not prevent me from doing so.

Aside from that, having flaws doesn't fix them in other people. Leftists don't magically turn family individuals because I'm a tranny. Look at the shit they post on twitter, wasting their life on weird polycule sex, drugs and retarded manchildren shit