💬 Off-Topic Trans Kiwifarmers Discussion Thread - Just what it says on the tin

[Shakira Flabbergasted]

Why is that? Egg freezing, surrogacy, sperm donors. Lots of options even if you don't wanna give birth.

Ma'am, two women cannot make a baby. None of those hypotheticals constitute two women making a baby, it's one woman using ghoulish medical procedures to produce children from an unknown father. Saving the white race ftw.

"But noooo that won't happen to meeeeee." Yeah, yeah, everything will work out for you perfectly with your children's unknown father, and they will grow up to be based Aryan race warriors who don't resent their mom for lying to them and decide to stick her in a nursing home (presuming she makes it that long and doesn't die of heart or kidney failure from mangling her body in various ways).

Gays and most trannies aren't sterile.

Yeah, and the original huwite race saviors made them wear pink triangles because they were big meanies. ETA: not responding to your massive spergout below, but since you seem to need tone indicators: /sneed

 

[Athena Save Us!]

So you think people of different sex have the same brain? And you call me the unscientific one?

I already left my two cents in this post and didn't intend to leave another, but this one riles me up. Neurosexism has long outlasted neuroracism for some reason.

There are a ton of books and papers on the subject as well. Don't think the subject is as open and shut as you claim.

 

[Anasa Tristis]

I just don't think it makes one an asshole.

You become the asshole when you act upon it out in the public sphere. Becoming a sexual imposter is a selfish indulgence that fucks up society. Everyone is starting to get a clue about that now too.

In what way? By walking down the street?

Exactly. When you do that you are a fraud. You are a walking lie. Society runs on a shared reality, on trusting appearances. Willfully becoming a sexual imposter indicates that you don't give a shit about that and makes you an asshole.

It's not surprising. Self sacrifice and putting society's needs before your own is out of fashion these days. But without it, everything slides into chaos.

totalitarian shit

It's not totalitarian shit. It's courtesy. It's humility.

From my experience, modern therapy is just basic shit for an expensive price. I've been to therapists, they weren't able to help me. They literally told me "we cannot help you with this".

Modern therapy unfortunately has lost its way. It's become infused with permissive liberalism; with it's moral relativism and utopian visions. It can't acknowledge yet that that's a road to hell paved with good intentions. But it will, eventually. It's unsustainable. It's not helping people, either.

I agree, but my way of handling it is transition. I don't see other options truly.

Which is odd. You come off pretty grounded otherwise. You want other people to acknowledge and live within their natural limits, but then don't or can't apply that to yourself. Granted, it is difficult and there's zero support out there. But just be warned: life is longer than you think. How you feel about things today will not be how you feel about things 10, 20 or 30 years from now.

That's just ungrateful.

No, that's just real life. People don't appreciate being lied to. It changes everything when it's discovered. It's better and simpler to just live an honest (and unselfish- lying is ultimately a selfish act) life as best you can. And take the hits that come from that.

 

[NoCockatrice]

the original huwite race saviors

Why the fuck do people think of nazis when one says he doesn't want white people to die out? Is it bad that I don't want people I was raised by and who's culture I love to die out? What does it have to do with nazis?

Speaking of which, nazis were a bunch of crybabies who were jealous of others' success and invented their insane believe system, changing it many times in the process. "Original white race saviors"? You don't know shit about history. Nazis killed a ton of white people. They were also socialists, which is not traditional at all. They were also buddies with arabs and japanese. So not "original", not "race" and not "saviors". Just a bunch of jealous power hungry degenerates.

Not wanting your culture and your people to die out is a normal healthy desire. If you hear it and think of nazis or some other evil - you have a problem.

 

[NoCockatrice]

Willfully becoming a sexual imposter

For who? Potential partner? I will tell her immediately. Lying about not being trans to potential sexual partner is wrong and I will never do so. You should not start a life long relationship with a lie.

Everyone else don't give a fuck. My friends already know and I don't mind telling new ones when we get to know each other. Random people just don't give a fuck, just like I don't give a fuck about them.

People don't appreciate being lied to

There is a difference between feeling uncomfortable because you're dad's retarded and completely ditching him. Is that gonna be an unusual experience for a family? Sure. Are they gonna hate my guts for it? No. If you're a loving parent who teaches your kids important life lessons being a tranny wouldn't make them hate you.

everything will work out for you perfectly with your children's unknown father, and they will grow up to be based Aryan race warriors who don't resent their mom for lying to them and decide to stick her in a nursing home

There's a big difference between having some difficulties and ditching your loving parent at a nursing home, because they have a mental condition. You're just being dramatic for the sake of it. "Reee, trannies bad". Which I can understand, giving the amount of degenerates calling themselves "trans" these days.

It's not totalitarian shit

You misunderstood my point. I said forcing people to call you a certain way is totalitarian.

 

[NoCockatrice]

'Misgendering' is part of the Western cuck tranny worship you claim to disavow

Null (the creator of this site) also uses the word "misgendering". Does it make him a trans supporter? That's just retarded. I use this word because it's convenient, not too long and people immediately know what you're talking about. If you don't wanna use it - don't.

If you think I perform some kind of mind programming through words, I think it's a very autistic conclusion to make.

What's important is not people's words, but they're actions and their values. I support freedom of speech and therefore against laws that fuck people up for "misgendering" or however else you want to call it. That what matters the most.

 

[Shakira Flabbergasted]

Which I can understand, giving the amount of degenerates calling themselves "trans" these days.

You are included in this statement. The fact that you think you aren't makes you even more delusional than they are, in certain respects. A lesbian who believes she has a genetic mental illness that is heritable, who then intentionally has children with no father present, then lies to them that she is their father, is by definition a degenerate. I agree you can't help being a lesbian or being mentally ill, but the rest is a choice you plan on making and it absolutely does put you among the worst of degenerates.

Your children will resent you for lying to them their entire lives. Not for being trans, not for being mentally ill, but for lying to them ON PURPOSE.

ditching your loving parent at a nursing home, because they have a mental condition.

selfish, lying, narcissistic parent*

Nobody ditches their mom at a nursing home because she has ADHD, but they do ditch her for telling them their biological father is her husband when it was actually the neighbor, and similar lies. "But I can't explain trannies to my children, and I consider myself their real father!" "But I can't explain cheating to my children, and I consider the man who raised them to be their real father!" Enjoy nursing home, liar child.

Spoiler: Edit

Unrelated to anything you've said, if you would like to learn how to sound less ESL (or short bus rider, whichever the case may be): You're = you are. They're = they are. It's = it is. Who's = who is. The apostrophe in these words indicates a contraction.

Possessive adjectives such as "their", "your", "his", "hers", "its", "whose", and "my" do not have apostrophes. Apostrophes can indicate possession when combined with proper or common nouns, such as "Susan's jacket" or "the shop's sign," but this does not apply to pronouns like "it" and "they." If you're using a word to indicate possession, that word will never have an apostrophe unless it's the name of a person or thing.

 

[Anasa Tristis]

You should not start a life long relationship with a lie.

That applies to your kids even more than to your lovers.

Larping as male and lying to your own kid about your genuine sex will have a profound effect on them. They’re not blank slates that learn everything by “socialization”. That is bullshit. Some things like sex recognition is deeply and immutably evolutionary. They will know on an unconscious level that something’s not right. That you’re lying and are untrustworthy. Even if they forgive you when they find or figure it out, it will still profoundly fuck up their life in ways you can’t imagine. Or prevent.

Don’t be a selfish asshole to your own kid. Be a true and honest GNC female, not a tranny lie. For their sake.

 

[Cuckoman]

yeah
my point is that it requires a special kind of masochism to willingly hang out in places full of people who hate you

Not that special, really. They are degenerates and very often humiliation fetishists too.
I mean, without the shame and mocking (a.k.a. genocide,) how else will they get validation from other degens on the internet?
Without the shame they do not exist.
I bet most of them are like this.

Similarly just look at diaperfurries. They get off on the humiliation of soiling themselves in public, such as in a family restaurant and similar.
An account on the farms would be a dream come true. Endless mocking resulting in endless validation and "you are so brave" from bluesky users when they go over there and cry about how mean we are.

 

[Troon Meet Noose]

TaimuRadiu is obviously a troon or wanting people to believe it's a troon.

 

[healing rain]

If anything, this thread has convinced me that trannies are either extremely sociopathic or suffer from actual cognitive impairment. I'm in awe at the pooner's inability to understand the basics of interpersonal relationships or how her actions could affect others. A conversation with a literal retard would've been more productive.

 

[Izdaja Slika]

Null (the creator of this site) also uses the word "misgendering". Does it make him a trans supporter?

No. You're a trans supporter because you plan to medically and socially transition.

That's just retarded. I use this word because it's convenient, not too long and people immediately know what you're talking about. If you don't wanna use it - don't.

If you think I perform some kind of mind programming through words, I think it's a very autistic conclusion to make.

"Mind programming"? How the fuck do you come to that conclusion?

When you say "I will not be bothered when people misgender me, I'm a good trannie", what you are doing is endorsing the trans madness concept of 'misgendering'.

Pronouns for humans in English do not refer to somebody's 'gender identity'. Pronouns and words like 'male' and 'female' and 'man' and 'woman' and dozens make reference to a person's sex.

Misgendering is an imaginary act. I don't care about your gender identity and I never will. If somebody passes you in the street and calls you a woman, they're not misgendering you. They are correctly sexing you.

What's important is not people's words, but they're actions and their values. I support freedom of speech and therefore against laws that fuck people up for "misgendering" or however else you want to call it. That what matters the most.

I agree the State has no business criminalising or otherwise punishing "misgendering", because "misgendering" is an imagined crime invented by trans fascists.

 

[Shakira Flabbergasted]

I get the same kind of frustration talking to this chick as I do watching shows like Hoarders or My Six Hundred Pound Life. You know that annoyance you feel when the hoarders say stuff like "That painting is worth 200 grand!" or "I'm going to use that old blanket to make a quilt!" (said painting is worth $30 and the blanket is covered in rat poop and cat urine), and when the deathfats say stuff like "I don't know how I got to be this big when I only eat salad! I must be a medical mystery." That's how I feel when I watch this person try to pretend actively lying about her sex is just some weird quirk she can't help, like being double-jointed. It's just...the sheer denial of reality while treating everyone around you like they're unreasonable for stating the facts.

Then again, I guess frustration is a choice. I could choose to laugh at these people instead. That's what this site was made for, after all.

 

[Platonic Ideal]

I get the same kind of frustration talking to this chick as I do watching shows like Hoarders or My Six Hundred Pound Life

Agreed. She has the mental capacity to reply to everything and almost every reply is a deflection and bad faith read, a "the only way you could have gotten a perfect 0% on this test is to know the correct answer for everything" type situation.

It 𝘪𝘴 frustrating. Based on her answers and attitude here there's still time for her to come around. Trannies reproduce by drawing people in, making it out like transitioning is the only way to feel fulfilled or to achieve a sense of belonging, then mock, disavow, and attempt to hide stories of detransitioners. They're like fucking Jehova's Witnesses.

 

[NoCockatrice]

they do ditch her for telling them their biological father is her husband when it was actually the neighbor,

I wouldn't ditch my mother for that. She loved me, she spent time with me, she put food on my plate. Lying to me wouldn't made me ditch her.

lying to your own kid about your genuine sex

The reason why I don't want to tell them is that I'm afraid they would want to "become trans". I just don't want them to be exposed to trans stuff. On other hand Buck Angel has kids and they know he's trans and they're fine. So yeah, maybe I should tell them actually. I guess better sooner than later.

Trannies reproduce by drawing people in

Never did that. I don't even have trans friends irl. Never advised anyone to transition. I'm not a doctor and I shouldn't do that. When I see people tell others to transition online I find it creepy.

disavow, and attempt to hide stories of detransitioners

That's disgusting and I would never do that. I think detransitioners should speak out more. Their videos should be shown to young people.
Big based trans you tubers like Blaire White, Buck Angel and some others make videos about detransitioners and support them.

There's also a kiwi detransitioners thread. It's not much, but the more places detransitioners have to speak - the better.

 

[Shakira Flabbergasted]

I wouldn't ditch my mother for that. She loved me, she spent time with me, she put food on my plate. Lying to me wouldn't made me ditch her.

Every terrible narcissist parent whose kids go no contact thinks this way.

Enjoy nursing home, liar child.

I just don't want [my kids] to be exposed to trans stuff.

So don't poon out, genius.

 

[Dude Snakes]

Total Tranny Death No Exceptions

 

[Platonic Ideal]

I don't even have trans friends irl

What got you thinking about gender identity, dysphoria, gender roles, whatever to begin with? When did you first learn about trans people, and why did you think you could be one? Were you a weird kid? Did you have unusual interests or ideas that made you feel different from your peers? If you can answer without powerleveling too hard

 

[NoCockatrice]

What got you thinking about gender identity, dysphoria, gender roles, whatever to begin with? When did you first learn about trans people, and why did you think you could be one? Were you a weird kid? Did you have unusual interests or ideas that made you feel different from your peers? If you can answer without powerleveling too hard

That would be too much of a self infodump. But here's what I'm gonna say.

Gender roles isn't something you think about. They're just there in any society. And it's normal.

I always had a good social life. Still have many friends.

I wasn't abused in any way.

I was never into the "trans community" and never liked these people's attitude.

I never had trans friends.

 

[Anasa Tristis]

So yeah, maybe I should tell them actually. I guess better sooner than later.

And then you will be the asshole burdening them with keeping your secret.

That's a lot to ask of them and it won't work out the way you think it will. You can't teach your kids not to be liars and then ask them to lie just for you. And what happens when they accidentally out you? At the least they're going to feel badly about screwing something up that should never have been their responsibility in the first place. At the worst, your whole larp will be wrecked, creating waves that will impact their lives too.

Being a tranny and all the endless bullshit and covert maneuvering it entails is simply not sustainable. You can't control all the moving parts, not in your public life, not in your private life. Attempting to do so is arrogant retardation at its highest. Lies and secrets are burdensome and are chaos bombs just waiting to go off. If you want to keep one foot in normie life and enjoy the benefits of it without juggling complications or fucking up your kids, then grow up, accept your limits, and just be a GNC female. Cut yourself and all the people in your life a break and keep it simple, true, and honest. Anything less will bite you in the ass someday. Or it'll bite theirs.