💬 Off-Topic Tranny Biology - HRT Is Magic

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Troons are trying to conflate testosterone production with sex differntiation.

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"All human individuals—whether they have an XX, an XY, or an atypical sex chromosome combination—begin development from the same starting point. During early development the gonads of the fetus remain undifferentiated; that is, all fetal genitalia are the same and are phenotypically female. After approximately 6 to 7 weeks of gestation, however, the expression of a gene on the Y chromosome induces changes that result in the development of the testes. Thus, this gene is singularly important in inducing testis development. The production of testosterone at about 9 weeks of gestation results in the development of the reproductive tract and the masculinization (the normal development of male sex characteristics) of the brain and genitalia. "

Sex Begins in the Womb
 
Troons are trying to conflate testosterone production with sex differntiation.

Sex Begins in the Womb
It’s crazy how tranny faggots who have a proven track record of knowing zilch about biology have suddenly become certified embryologists in a matter of a day, huh?

I’ve seen so many posts and comments since troonageddon about chromosomes and foetal development, and literally all of them are spewing either pseudoscience or carefully crafted misrepresentations of biology.

For people who circlejerk about how “people need to read a science book!!,” they sure love to say shit like all foetuses start with XX chromosomes and they change to XY during male development. Or that your sex chromosomes aren’t present at conception, but instead are decided when you turn into a girl or boy. Yes, I have seen many people saying this as fact just today.

On a brighter note, it is funny how troons are finally admitting that vulva=female and penis=male though.

Even if their claims are conflated and fallacious, they’re still admitting that they think foetuses differentiating to have a penis and testes make them male (and a lack thereof = female). I thought you guys were all about the idea that women can have penises, and to say that penis=male is transphobic???

What a shock, the ideology that’s built on delusion, pseudoscience, fallacies and exceptions isn’t logically consistent!
 
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How mad do you think they will be when they find out your biological father dictates your sex? Dear old dad was an oppressive patriarch even at conception, bastard gave me a Y chromosome reeeee
 
Fat distribution, pheromones, even mindset do change under hormones. These are powerful chemicals that elicit powerful changes. Men take extra T to improve muscle production and women take extra estrogens to manipulate their estrus cycle. We have non-tranny examples of hormones having a powerful effect on the human body. Cross-sex hormones also have powerful effects. But they're not omnipotent. Men will never have a womb. They'll still be clocked constantly. They see some of the changes and disregard the things that aren't changing as part of their delusion
Too much testosterone will fuck you up as will too much estrogen. HRT shit used to be for people with hormonal imbalances but it's been gradually turned into this shit where it's treated like it changes everything about you. Hormones may be "powerful" but they aren't the only fucking factor in things and their purpose is more regulatory shit than gender shit. I've seen people fucking shooting up estrogen the last decade or so because they say it'll give them/gives them "smoother skin" when IT'S FUCKING VITAMINS AND BATHING/EATING WELL THAT DOES THAT, NOT SHOOTING UP BATHTUB HRT JUICE.
 
Too much testosterone will fuck you up as will too much estrogen. HRT shit used to be for people with hormonal imbalances but it's been gradually turned into this shit where it's treated like it changes everything about you. Hormones may be "powerful" but they aren't the only fucking factor in things and their purpose is more regulatory shit than gender shit. I've seen people fucking shooting up estrogen the last decade or so because they say it'll give them/gives them "smoother skin" when IT'S FUCKING VITAMINS AND BATHING/EATING WELL THAT DOES THAT, NOT SHOOTING UP BATHTUB HRT JUICE.
Estrogen definitely will give a man smoother skin. That bit about fat distribution includes subcutaneous fat. Additionally, it can change pheromones to make a man seem less dangerous. I've also seen reports that it's legitimately euphoric and thus addicting. But there are dire consequences for these effects, like emotional instability and sterility. Not to mention thousands of years of evolution that makes people instinctually disgusted by faggots.
 
When confronted with real biology, the troon recoils. There are sundry things they claim HRT does to their bodies, but don't you dare tell them one of the actual, measurable, demonstrated effects of putting enormous doses of, say, estrogen into the human body. Estrogen holds onto copper. Copper toxicity is increasingly common (archive), especially with the advent of hormonal birth control increasing estrogen levels in women. Symptoms of having abnormal levels of copper in your system include: "Emotional meltdowns and frequent anger". Sensory "issues". Anxiety. Depression. ADHD. Autism. Being manic and fucking crazy.

But THAT could never happen on HRT, because HRT Is Magic.
 
it can change pheromones to make a man seem less dangerous
Ok now we're getting into raw snake oil pitches. Nobody's gonna seem dangerous unless they're weilding a weapon of some kind or visibly doing some shady shit... Or if you're a schizo that trys claiming strangers are going to harm or kill you 24/7.

I've also seen reports that it's legitimately euphoric and thus addicting
3 very specific letters explain this.
 
Can someone who knows embryology poke some holes (lol) in their new devastating argument that all embryos are female at conception and hence everyone is legally a woman? My understanding was that the embryo was not formed with ?? chromosomes, but XX or XY and just takes a little bit of time for the Y to kick in and start making you have balls, but that's why men have nipples.
Basically could you take a blastula or whatever the earliest stage is and peep the chromosomes and know that if all goes well, this will be a boy?
(Also I wonder if any pooners are seething about this stupid argument)
 
Ok now we're getting into raw snake oil pitches. Nobody's gonna seem dangerous unless they're weilding a weapon of some kind or visibly doing some shady shit... Or if you're a schizo that trys claiming strangers are going to harm or kill you 24/7.


3 very specific letters explain this.
The concept of danger/threat is instinctual. Men see other men and women differently from each other. This perception extends beyond more than sight and looks but also to smell, though it's not immediately obvious. HRT is one method to help mask this. It's not comprehensive. Still, it does have an affect. And trannies will take any advantage, however slight, to get closer to their prey.
 
Can someone who knows embryology poke some holes (lol) in their new devastating argument that all embryos are female at conception and hence everyone is legally a woman? My understanding was that the embryo was not formed with ?? chromosomes, but XX or XY and just takes a little bit of time for the Y to kick in and start making you have balls, but that's why men have nipples.
Basically could you take a blastula or whatever the earliest stage is and peep the chromosomes and know that if all goes well, this will be a boy?
(Also I wonder if any pooners are seething about this stupid argument)
To answer your question, yes you could determine it before any development occurs by looking at a freshly-fertilised embryo.

Biological sex ultimately comes down to gene expression, there are a few genes that affect downstream components of sex differentiation, but the Sex-determining region Y protein is invariably responsible for sex differentiation in humans. One quick aside here, this is true only for placental mammals.

During gestation, there are bipotent cells around the urogenital ridge (precursor to your junk) that could differentiate to develop into either male or female gonad tissue. SRY is a transcription factor, this means its purpose is to influence the expression of other genes, in this instance a gene called SOX9 which is yet another transcription factor. I won't go into detail about what SOX9 does because it's a complicated signalling cascade, but just understand that it essentially flicks on all the switches in the balls factory. The effect of SRY and SOX9 is two-fold, it inhibits female development, and initiates male development. If SRY is absent or otherwise non-functional, female sexual differentiation occurs. Ultimately, the bipotent cells will develop one way or the other based on the influence of SRY.

Here's some factors that can obfuscate that process:
  • Non-functional SRY gene (female differentiation, XY chromosomes)
  • XX-male syndrome, where an X-chromosome somehow has the SRY gene (male differentiation, XX chromosomes)
  • Ovotesticular syndrome (variety of causes, extremely rare, usually involving chimerism) - this is the one example where I'd say someone cannot be accurately defined as one sex or another.
So in most cases, sexual differentation is determined by the presence of a Y-chromosome, which is determined at conception not during gestation. To account for all scenarios, it's more accurate to say it is determined by the presence of a functional SRY gene, which is again determined at conception.

Even when you account for the smokescreen of DSDs (intersex is not an accurate descriptor for what these disorders truly are), biological sex is almost always binary and determined at conception.

There's a few factors that can complicate sexual development downstream, these are typically more involved with hormones:
  • (Complete/Incomplete) Androgen Insensitivity Disorder (androgen receptors don't work, the person produces male sex hormones but they don't have a phenotypic effect). These people usually have internal testes and are therefore biologically male.
  • 5-a-reductase 2 deficiency (supressed or non-existent conversion of testosterone to 5a-dihydrotestosterone, this impacts sexual differentation during gestation, but masculinisation occurs during puberty) - there's anecdotes of people being raised and girls and suddenly developing into unambiguous males at puberty.
I am a biologist, but developmental biology/embryology is not my field. Some stuff I've said may be wrong or inaccurate.

The main takeaway here is biological sex is determine by the presence of a functioning SRY gene (can be simplified to Y-chromosome, but DSDs make this cloudy), which is determined at conception. Also, it's not even accurate to say that a foetus is female until differentiation occurs, humans are androgynous (given that the urogenital cells are still multipotent).
 
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Can someone who knows embryology poke some holes (lol) in their new devastating argument that all embryos are female at conception and hence everyone is legally a woman?
Not a biologist per se, but the pop science “fun fact!” all embryos start as female myth is easily disproven with a simple diagram showing the process:

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As Hoi Polloi stated, the nutshell explanation is that embryos are androgynous, capable of developing as a male or female depending on the presence of the SRY gene, found on the Y chromosome (which again, you either have or don’t have from conception).
 
Not a biologist per se, but the pop science “fun fact!” all embryos start as female myth is easily disproven with a simple diagram showing the process:

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As Hoi Polloi stated, the nutshell explanation is that embryos are androgynous, capable of developing as a male or female depending on the presence of the SRY gene, found on the Y chromosome (which again, you either have or don’t have from conception).
orly? then why is the clit built pretty much the same as a micropenis? checkmate chuds
 
orly? then why is the clit built pretty much the same as a micropenis? checkmate chuds
Trannies use this argument a lot and it's really funny to me. Yeah, they're analogous organs, but the mouth is also analogous to the anus, even moreso in these faggots because they have shit coming out of both ends.
 
Jack Turban says that ****MAGICAL GENDER ESSENCE*** is a real scientifically validated phenomenon

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Pooner Kate Strangio denies that biolgical sex exists at all during aan unhinged rant about the Trump Executive Order.

"American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) lawyer Chase Strangio appeared to employ a new term for an adult human female Tuesday.

The trans rights activist – who is also a transgender man – appeared on the left-wing digital news show "Democracy Now!" to slam President Donald Trump’s executive order on sex and gender.

Strangio complained to show host Amy Goodman that Trump "is targeting trans people by focusing on retrenching this notion of a fixed gender binary at the time of conception."

While making the case, Strangio referred to biological women as "non-transgender women."

One part of the EO directs the Secretary of Housing and Urban Development to produce a policy that protects women "seeking single-sex rape shelters" and other intimate spaces, which Strangio objected to.

Strangio claimed this would, "in essence, exclude trans people from various forms of shelter system, under the auspices that a trans person is an inherent threat to non-transgender women."

After refusing to call biological women "women," Strangio added that this part of the order "just enhances the risk that transgender people face in society, if we are deemed as a threat to others simply by existing."

ACLU lawyer calls females 'non-transgender women' in rant about Trump executive order
 
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Woof! I managed to find this document and skim through it. The sheer amount of sexism and pseudoscience dripping from it is enough to cause an aneurysm. All the way from trying to prove that there are enough intersex people to dismantle the argument that they're an exception to the rule, propping up neuro-sexist beliefs, appealing to authority, asking people to guess anime genders, and trying hard to prove that HRT is magic and totally changes their physiology, guyz - this document is never going to change anyone's mind unless they have subfreezing temp IQ.

The funniest bit is at the end when they try to say that Matthew 19:12 proves trannies exist because Jews had their own equivalent of the third gender. Also, they quote Galatians 3:28 to prove that Jesus doesn't care about gender without realizing that this verse actually bolsters gender-critical arguments, not theirs.

And then they immediately go on to basically say, "But you shouldn't care what the Bible says anyway because here are scriptures proving that it condones slavery, too."

So, are you trying to convince religious people that a single line of scripture means it's totes okay to mutilate your genitals or are you trying to convince Christians that they shouldn't trust everything they read in scripture? More proof that trannies cannot make a cohesive argument to save themselves. That document makes even less sense than a Contrapoints video sperg.
 
Woof! I managed to find this document and skim through it. The sheer amount of sexism and pseudoscience dripping from it is enough to cause an aneurysm. All the way from trying to prove that there are enough intersex people to dismantle the argument that they're an exception to the rule, propping up neuro-sexist beliefs, appealing to authority, asking people to guess anime genders, and trying hard to prove that HRT is magic and totally changes their physiology, guyz - this document is never going to change anyone's mind unless they have subfreezing temp IQ.

The funniest bit is at the end when they try to say that Matthew 19:12 proves trannies exist because Jews had their own equivalent of the third gender. Also, they quote Galatians 3:28 to prove that Jesus doesn't care about gender without realizing that this verse actually bolsters gender-critical arguments, not theirs.

And then they immediately go on to basically say, "But you shouldn't care what the Bible says anyway because here are scriptures proving that it condones slavery, too."

So, are you trying to convince religious people that a single line of scripture means it's totes okay to mutilate your genitals or are you trying to convince Christians that they shouldn't trust everything they read in scripture? More proof that trannies cannot make a cohesive argument to save themselves. That document makes even less sense than a Contrapoints video sperg.

For reference, the troon that wrote that paper is the same one who says troons can totally nurse babies.

Tranny Lactation TikTok
 
Who perceive femininity or femaleness to troons, because society definitely doesn't?
Hard for me to say because my exposure to them is limited to a handful in my area and those featured here. If that was all I had to go by, I’d have to who gives them their “girlie guidelines” because they’re sure not getting them from real women.

While many women, (and men), can lead chaotic lives, few seek that out. Troons can’t seem to function without trauma and hysteria. No thanks!

Hours and hours spent on obtaining and putting together inappropriate outfits, horrible wigs and makeup? For most natal women, that’s a phase they exit mid teens.

The worst aspect to me though is the 100% self absorption. They wail about not passing while making sure everyone knows they’re troons. If they or trans issues aren’t the center of attention, they whine.

I’ve no doubt there are any number of troons who lead a quiet life, not seeking attention but man, that can be a tough conclusion to reach based just on what I see.
 
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