Total War: Warhammer 3

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Been playing the shit out of 2 recently, but I haven't heard enough good things about 3 that would make the 100GB download worth it. Kislev being playable is tempting, but meh.

Did they fix the thing where AI will make a beeline for that one undefended minor settlement deep within your territory in 3? And is Wurzag still the most annoying coward in the game's history?
 
It's joeover, CA-bros.

Source
Sega has cancelled Hyenas, the multiplayer extraction shooter in development at UK studio Creative Assembly.

Issuing a warning to investors that it will record a loss for the financial year, Sega said "profitability has been lowered mainly in European bases". As a result, it has implemented "structural reforms aimed at increasing efficiency", and reviewed in-development games. "We have made the difficult decision to cancel some titles under the development as well as to reduce the fixed expenses," Sega said.

"In response to the lower profitability of the European region, we have reviewed the title portfolio of each development base in Europe and the resulting action will be to cancel Hyenas and some unannounced titles under development," Sega continued. "Accordingly, we will implement a write-down of work-in-progress for titles under development."

A source close to Creative Assembly told IGN the entire Hyenas studio now faces redundancy, but staff expect massive cuts across the company. Staff were told the news this morning, September 28, at the same time Sega issued its statement. The cancellation of Hyenas so close to release came as a surprise to staff, IGN was told, although internally there was concern that the game would fail to do well.

"We will implement reduction of various fixed expenses at several group companies in relevant region, centered on the Creative Assembly Ltd," Sega said. "We expect to incur one-time expenses related to reduction of fixed expenses.

"We will continue to consider measures to improve profitability in European bases apart from above. We will announce the specific details and impact from them as soon as we make decision."

Creative Assembly, best known for the Total War series, recently brought Hyenas to German show gamescom for the public to play. A beta concluded mid-September.

Last month Sega admitted Hyenas was a “challenging” title. “We are unable to talk about this title because the details have not yet been announced at this time,” Sega said at the time. “As this is a challenging title, we are striving to improve its quality towards the release on the front line of development. We are also making final adjustments to its business model in parallel.”

Hyenas, announced last summer, resurfaced on August 16 with a new gameplay trailer showing chaotic, zero-G heist action. Hyenas was described as a hero-based multiplayer extraction shooter that pit five teams of three against each other and NPC security teams known as MURFS. The idea was to steal pop culture memorabilia from Plunderships.

While Creative Assembly had previously indicated Hyenas was not free-to-play, Sega’s mention of “final adjustments” to the business model suggested this might have changed. Sega issued IGN the following statement last month:

"We have dedicated the past year to reviewing our business model alongside months of extremely valuable player testing of the gameplay experience. We're very excited with this progress and the reaction to yesterday's gameplay reveal. We'll build on foundation with our Closed Beta test beginning 31 August and use this insight to finalize our plans for launch."


Wesley is the UK News Editor for IGN. Find him on Twitter at @wyp100. You can reach Wesley at wesley_yinpoole@ign.com or confidentially at wyp100@proton.me.
 
It's joeover, CA-bros.
Statement from CA:
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Wow a dogshit looking, stale trend chasing, how-do-you-do-fellow-gamers, piece of crap in an already oversaturated market was doomed to fail, who knew?

Well at least CA still have their legions of loyal TWW3 fans, who they definitely haven't pissed off recently.... Shit. Well at least they have all those historical fanboys who are totally hyped about the new Pharaoh game, right?
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SEGA might unironically be about to take the studio from basically printing free money with the Warhammer games, to crashing it with no survivors in just a couple of years.
 
I never understand the desire to take a company that makes profitable niche products, and try and force them to do the exact opposite of what they did to succeed. "I got a car wash, but replaced all the washers with poo sprayers." Is a retarded idea.
 
I never understand the desire to take a company that makes profitable niche products, and try and force them to do the exact opposite of what they did to succeed. "I got a car wash, but replaced all the washers with poo sprayers." Is a retarded idea.
By some accounts, the push for Hyenas was from CA. It was the suits at SEGA who pulled the plug on the project. Presumably, because they anticipated that it would bomb and damage the brand of both.
 
So CA is finaly reaching the point of "Terminal cancer". So about TWH3 we have :
- The sieges are still not good or are just ok at best.
- dlcs are getting overpriced for its content, probably in part due to HYENA.
- I heard the performance are better than at release but stille terrible sometimes and there is still some bugs.
- I read again that the AI is still dumb in many ways, especially sieges.
- They clearly are going down the retarded woke road with signs of both political and cultural commissars meddling with the creative process.
- My money and yours was probably partially redirected to other projects instead of TWH3.
- A franchise which performed very well despite its problems, now have its last entry at 61% on steam. 26% for recent reviews. I guess its sells are going to go into decline from now.

Once, I wished they added Albion and Araby but now I am not sure I want them to touch those factions or to create new contents for that matter.

I have not played for a year or so. My last campaign as Albion got wrecked by a tide of Vampire Counts(special Endtimes event). I will probbaly try a beastmen campaign this time, there are generaly easier than all other campaigns to do. Anyone has mods to recommand ?

Also I am going to try the Warhammer mod of Medieval 2, anyone here tried it ? I have the feeling it is going to be very janky.
 
- I read again that the AI is still dumb in many ways, especially sieges.
I've barely played TWW3 so I never realized how bad they were til I watched a recent LegendofTotalWar stream of the Nagash mod. He literally just strolls a hero or two into the city, caps the zone and then trolls the AI into fighting his heroes instead of recapturing. There's multiple occasions where the AI will sit units like 3 feet from the zone but not move into it.

Anyone has mods to recommand ?
I'd try the Legions of Nagash mod. I've unironically had more fun playing it recently than I have had with pretty much anything in TWW3 up until now.
 
I've barely played TWW3 so I never realized how bad they were til I watched a recent LegendofTotalWar stream of the Nagash mod. He literally just strolls a hero or two into the city, caps the zone and then trolls the AI into fighting his heroes instead of recapturing. There's multiple occasions where the AI will sit units like 3 feet from the zone but not move into it.
It's so disappointing just how much fluff they put into how they totally fixed sieges and added all these things like emplacements and defensive structures before release, only for it to basically lobotomize the AI. Not only do you have the pathfinding bug out and units forming conga lines where they run into enemy lines single-file, but as you said, the AI will defend by just standing there as you go and walk around to their control points. They've made a strategy game AI that's even dumber than your average TF2 casual player, at least those guys will get on the point!

And good luck seeing the offensive siege AI in action, they only ever bother attacking if the auto-resolve is so stacked against you it's almost a guaranteed loss. You have to build armies that the auto-resolve think are garbage, but are actually unbreakably strong. Which isn't that hard to do, given how the AR calculation is still funky.
 
I still can't fucking believe Nagash isn't in this series. The one actual threat that isn't the billionth iteration of Chaos.
You may see him now along with Thanqhol since they need to go in hard with the next big one to recover from this shit. But I'm not spending a penny on 3. Have most of the shit for 2 and haven't played THAT much even though it's the sort pf game that can give you infinite hours.
 
I still can't fucking believe Nagash isn't in this series. The one actual threat that isn't the billionth iteration of Chaos.
Wouldn't surprise me if it was the last DLC we get for TWW3. Mostly because I still think they're going to pivot into Total War: Age of Sigmar afterwards, so one final milking with an End Times themed DLC seems their style.

You may see him now along with Thanqhol since they need to go in hard with the next big one to recover from this shit. But I'm not spending a penny on 3. Have most of the shit for 2 and haven't played THAT much even though it's the sort pf game that can give you infinite hours.
I stopped buying DLC halfway through 2's lifecycle and just relied on CreamAPI. For 3 I waited until Immortal Empires was due then picked up a super cheap basegame key (although it actually came with both Ogre Kingdoms and the Blood DLC which was especially useful) and again just use CreamAPI, because fuck CA and their nickle and diming bullshit.
 
I still can't fucking believe Nagash isn't in this series. The one actual threat that isn't the billionth iteration of Chaos.
There's a certain rumor that they're waiting until they hit 100 lords or some other magic number, and they'll release Nagash then.
It's silly, but I believe it, since CA is basically r*ddit cringe.
 
Surprised No one's brought this up yet because BOY Creative Assembly are willing to do anything to earn good will back. Though with how few people bought Pharaoh, the partial refund for every buyer and cancellation of the DLC probably isn't hurting them that hard
I posted it in the general Total War thread since it isn't TWW3 specific. While you're right the partial refund and price reductions on Pharaoh aren't likely massive on their own, they're still not something a company wants to do at any time, let alone in a year where they already ate a huge loss on Hyenas. Same with adding more content to Shadows of Change and delaying Thrones of Decay to add more shit, which is more time/money they're having to spend at a time when they likely want to be doing the bare minimum to save cash.
 
So, since I acquired this game on the cheap, I been playing the not!Russians.

How the fuck are sieges still so shit? I actually think its worse than TWW2. At least the maps there facilitated some sort of defensive play (especially with a level 3 garrison). The maps in 3 are so atrociously laid out that the attacker actually has an advantage since you'd have more units to make use of the multiple pathways available.
 
Also I am going to try the Warhammer mod of Medieval 2, anyone here tried it ? I have the feeling it is going to be very janky.
Call of Warhammer? It is very good! Big map with all the major Warhammer fractions (except Vampire Coasts I think). Only problem I had was the infinite orcs and goblins that spawn throughout my campaign.

Mages/Slann are extremely powerful.
Vampire Counts are OP for the player; for the AI, just about toothless.

There is also Warsword Conquest mod for Mount and Blade Warband and The Old Realm mod for Mount and Blade Bannerlord. Both are very good also. Sieges are the worst in Warband though.
 
The sieges are still not good or are just ok at best.

The sieges are total shit and the only battles I autocomplete on. Is it really so difficult to use the mechanics for medieval total war or even Rome total war?

I just won the long campaign in IM as Chaos dwarfs, that was fun. Now I'm trying to play as the maggot lord and I'm liking it.
 

Feel like this is a nice way of addressing the community that isn't just dumb blogpost or having "influencers" telling you points while copeing. Speaking of whats everyone think of Legend of total war. Seems like a fag who either drums up fake rumors for views or is incredibly retarded
 
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