Crime Tiny Knife Wielding Tranny Shot By Cops

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You are so fucking stupid it's physically painful. Cops should not be expected to sacrifice their lives to save someone who is an active threat to the community and willfully engages law enforcement with dwadly force.
Another example of what I'm talking about are EMTs.

There's a constant, but small, chance that you can die on the job while being an EMT. It could be from something as mundane as getting aids from a junkie. We give EMTs gloves and training and protect them as best we can, but if they can't handle the reality that they're going into dangerous circumstances, they shouldn't take the job.

Same for cops.

Though that was poor phrasing on my part. By "gamble their life a little", I was referring to the small, constant risk inherent to the job. If someone is a cop for 5 years, they're dealing with a constant stream of random violent dumbasses. They probably won't die from any of them, and I don't expect them to rush into genuinely dangerous situations for no reason. But the danger is there and I expect cops to take that into consideration before entering the profession.

Some posters in this thread act like asking police to do anything remotely risky is gay and unrealistic. That's what I take issue with. I'm not asking cops to jump the grand canyon on a dirt bike.
 
n this country, people have rights and there are restrictions on the government to protect those rights. It might be in your best interest sometimes to keep your head down and allow your rights to be violated, but that doesn't necessarily make it right.

Like it or not this isn't Judge Dredd. The constitution IS a suicide pact, and this country must live or die by it.

I may not like "DinDus" (for example), and I cheer when they get fucked up. But that's a personal opinion, and I would rather support fucking BLM than support authority overstepping its bounds.
 
Cops should not be expected to sacrifice their lives to save someone who is an active threat to the community and willfully engages law enforcement with deadly force. If the cops stood down and knife tranny stabbed a bystander how would you feel?

There's a difference between an active threat and a possible threat. Cops are expected to use lethal force with an active threat.

Cops are paid to assume personal risk while assessing a possible threat. The whole shoot-no-shoot thing is fundamental part of their job. However, far too often they don't. The "I was in fear for my life" defense has become bulletproof justification for killing some dude with a cell phone. It's unforgivable for them to assume no risk and just start shooting, and it's unforgivable for citizens to accept that a cops life is worth more than any others.

You want looser ROE's? Try the military. You won't find that much better either. You want to see hard-men? Maybe try Syria or Somalia.

This tranny sounds like it was a good shoot. He had means, opportunity, and implied intent (even if the real intent was suicide).
 
Actual use of a Tazer from less than 3 weeks ago.

It starts around 1:40

You can tell the Tazer at least hit him because you can see him dragging it behind him as he still attacks the officer.

I'd cite this as an example of a cop exceeding his obligations before using deadly force. Note how quickly that all unfolded.

He still tried to use the Tazer first. I'm not sure if only one of the prongs connected and the charge didn't get through or what, but immediately afterwards he was dodging back from a baseball bat to the face. Only then did he pump a few bullets into the guy.

He took a serious risk there. He was apparently confident in his ability to dodge the first swing. If he had predicted wrong, he could be dead now.

After the Tazer failed, though, there is no way he wasn't completely reasonable to finish the guy.
 
I'd cite this as an example of a cop exceeding his obligations before using deadly force. Note how quickly that all unfolded.

He still tried to use the Tazer first. I'm not sure if only one of the prongs connected and the charge didn't get through or what, but immediately afterwards he was dodging back from a baseball bat to the face. Only then did he pump a few bullets into the guy.

He took a serious risk there. He was apparently confident in his ability to dodge the first swing. If he had predicted wrong, he could be dead now.

After the Tazer failed, though, there is no way he wasn't completely reasonable to finish the guy.

I think he followed to correct escalation of force. I don't think he would have been justified using lethal force sooner. Nobody was in immediate danger from the dude (doors were locked and everyone on the other side was armed). If the cop keeps his distance he's not at immediate risk either. He doesn't put himself in danger until he gets within Tazer range. Problem with a Tazer is it's one-shot, all-or-nothing, and you need to be close to use it. After it failed he was justified escalating.

Edit: This is too gay. I need to stop arguing with all you fags, and just enjoy the moment.
 
In times of tragedy, I must turn to Scripture for comfort. A confused young man, brandishing a knife, demanding to be shot; Matthew 7:7 puts this moral dilemma into perspective.

Ask, and ye shall receive.
 
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I loled heartily when I saw mlp ponies in the background of the pic they used in the article. You really can't have one without the other

also RIP and all that stuff never good to see someone die no matter how tarded
 
People in comments sections for things like this are hilariously ignorant. Almost always someone suggests using a tranquilizer gun or something. *sigh*

The video looks like there was a distinct attempt at de-escalation. You can see the officers backing up and even trying to put obstacles between them and the suspect- who keeps advancing. While less-lethal weapons might work, it's a big risk and requires a lot of communication that can be difficult in the heat of the moment.

Deploying a Taser, for example, is very risky- first of all, they aren't like phasers and often don't work. In that case now you have one cop who has to depend on the other to shoot if necessary because his hand now has a Taser in it, instead of a firearm. This might be impossible if the positioning isn't juuuust right (because you can't fire at the suspect if he's charging at your partner in such a way that you're going to cause friendly fire). Then you have the fact that the sound of a taser has caused cops to fire their sidearms in the heat of the moment (which is why training includes yelling 'TASER! TASER! TASER!' before deploying it).

So if you've got a controlled environment, yeah, you might have options. But here? A public area where you don't know who he might endanger if you let him run off? Probably best just to try and talk him down.

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They should be compensated appropriately for the risk, of course. But a cop who just knee-jerk shoots a guy with a knife in every situation? That's like a firefighter who won't run into a burning building.

A building lacks the agency to decide whether or not to burn. Obviously this person did not care enough about his due process rights enough to not advance multiple times on police while displaying a deadly weapon. There are cases where uses of force were clearly absurd- or, 'unreasonable' to use the standard in Graham v. Connor. But this isn't one of them so I don't know why people jump on it.

Also, fuck proxy-suiciders. Do your own fucking dirty work. Don't make someone else go through it.
 
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They asked "What's your name?" and he replied "it doesn't matter".

Can't decide if edgelord suicidal, or Tumblr-flavored "I'm gonna be just another tranny killed by cops."

Or maybe "It doesn't matter if I tell you now because it'll be a hashtag tomorrow".

Can anyone translate what the cameraperson said? I'm also wondering if the screaming after the shot was "Scout", in which case who was screaming shortly after? Passerby I guess?
 
i used to wear a badge. i've been in more than one situation where i had to draw on someone. i've had two incidents where i had to shoot.

this was a good shoot; and what i can do to explain why is covered by others already. to wit: less than lethal methods were tried and had failed. once inside a small radius, dangerous melee attacks can be very deadly and rather than exchange weapons to something else (a baton or something, i don't know his duty gear), that delay might be the end of your own life.

to ask someone who is already volunteering to be in that dangerous situation of confronting an armed and an uncompliant suspect to take their risk even further and risk being stabbed to death is startlingly ignorant of the realities of combat or policework.

police are sworn and paid to enforce laws, not needlessly put themselves in danger for the benefit of other people. that happens to be a product of the environment they operate in when enforcing laws and dealing with people that would seek to secure their continued violations with possibly lethal force. enforcing the law has no violent components about it unless you seek to visit violence upon the law enforcement officer. that some police go above and beyond duty to put themselves at great risk to help someone else is why it's phrased as "above and beyond the call of duty".

also, since i've been in the military, i will say that ROE is utterly different in every regard just to put this in perspective of what "overzealous policing" looks like in many parts of the world. pulling checkpoint duty we had a policy of "signal, shout, shoot" on approach of vehicles. when within 200 meters, we had signs and stuff that makes it obvious to slow down at the checkpoint and stop for words. people ignoring this were "signaled" with a flag that was bright orange i had to wave at them. if they didn't slow i "shouted" at them with an M4 with tracers shot into the air or dirt near them. if that didn't work either, they're usually within 50 meters at this point and i am cleared to shoot them with the .50.

when i was a sheriff's deputy i carried a baton, a can of Sabre OC spray, and a newly issued TASER device. i also carried my duty weapon, a SIG handgun. i was working with a contract city and was called to assist transportation police with a possibly armed violent man at a train station. we approached and i stood nearby with my hand on my gun. when he start approaching us determinedly, i drew the TASER and ordered him to comply. he refused, kept approaching, and eventually ran at us carrying a bag in one hand and what turned out to be a bottle in the other.

he pretty much ignored the TASER entirely - the loose hoodie combined with a couple shirts made it so it had little effect and we couldn't tell for a second. in that short time i had just dropped the TASER and drawn my duty weapon, he had already sprinted close enough to slap the transportation officer over the head with his hobo bag and tried to run past us into the parking lot. he was tackled by the second transportation officer thankfully. he had covered about 2 car lengths in that time frame.

it is taught pretty universally to never underestimate a melee attacker if they're close enough.
 
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Edit: Like, they should be a mallcop or something. I don't expect mallcops to put themselves at additional risk. But I do expect real police to do that
They do put themselves at additional risk. For every chucklefuck that gets shot there's 10 who either get restrained or talked down.
 
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Cops did the right thing, and anyone who disagrees deserves to be shot 1000 times in the asshole for being wrong
 
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