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Aobozu said:
How do you think I should break the 'sad' news to him?
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Id suggest just showing him the info and having him descide for himself what he thinks. Having been within the fandom myself, ive realized a lot of them get huffy if they feel someone is trying to pressure them into a different viewpoint.
 
Unfortunately, the Treehouse of Horror ripoff isn't the only episode he did. I took the time to read multiple episodes, and god were they awful and generic. Here's my "favorite" one, and Enter's attempt at an "emotional" story.

http://growing-around.deviantart.com/art/Growing-Around-Episodes-Baby-Tooth-481452207

Here we have gems such as asshole kids (who are guardians for that matter), a shitty musical number, tons of unfunny jokes (he literally steals a gag from the SpongeBob movie, guising it as a "reference"), melodrama, and the main characters hijacking a car (again demonstrating Enter's unadulterated hypocrisy). What a FUN one indeed.
 
InternetShaft said:
Unfortunately, the Treehouse of Horror ripoff isn't the only episode he did. I took the time to read multiple episodes, and god were they awful and generic. Here's my "favorite" one, and Enter's attempt at an "emotional" story.

http://growing-around.deviantart.com/art/Growing-Around-Episodes-Baby-Tooth-481452207

Here we have gems such as asshole kids (who are guardians for that matter), a shitty musical number, tons of unfunny jokes (he literally steals a gag from the SpongeBob movie, guising it as a "reference"), melodrama, and the main characters hijacking a car (again demonstrating Enter's unadulterated hypocrisy). What a FUN one indeed.
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I knowww, these episodes are awful. I only laughed at 1 joke here, and despite not remembering the Spongebob movie very well I'm pretty sure its the joke that was stolen. I would comment on it further but this guy in the comments stole the words right out of my mouth...he touches upon the nonsensical premise and the lack of an actual resolution.

Random DA Guy said:
MrEnter...

The fear to grow up concerns many children. However, your presetation of it is again unrelatable for the target audience- what child fears to lose its authority? What child worries about its business? Aren't these naturally adult fears? No child will realate to the fears children have in this setting- losing your authority to your children. This, again, makes the setting very disturbing if you consider that adults are forced to abandon their doctor because their offspring wants to play baseball. The ending is dissatisfying, because it doesn't solve the problems of Timmy- one could assume, that he will get depressed. one way or another. There is no rational reason why a society would establish such a societal system. It might be a kids show, but I dare to say that this insults my intellect- more so, if you call this your favorite piece of work. It must be a nightmare for an adult to become underage in a juristical sense. The setting should emphasize why growing up leads to more authority and self-reliance- positive things. But growing up in this setting is unbelievably depressing. The musical number is over the top, the rhymes are ... dissatisfying, to be polite. It seems to be nothing more than a ploy to catch time. I hope you will do better

Best Wishes,

The Impaler
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InternetShaft said:
Unfortunately, the Treehouse of Horror ripoff isn't the only episode he did. I took the time to read multiple episodes, and god were they awful and generic. Here's my "favorite" one, and Enter's attempt at an "emotional" story.

http://growing-around.deviantart.com/art/Growing-Around-Episodes-Baby-Tooth-481452207

Here we have gems such as asshole kids (who are guardians for that matter), a shitty musical number, tons of unfunny jokes (he literally steals a gag from the SpongeBob movie, guising it as a "reference"), melodrama, and the main characters hijacking a car (again demonstrating Enter's unadulterated hypocrisy). What a FUN one indeed.
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Man, for someone who seemingly hates morally-dubious protagonists, his main characters are really, really unlikable. They're whiny and constantly do dickish things just because they can. But hey I guess it's okay when the almighty lord of all cartoons MrEnter does it. And yet again, the stock plot of "losing the baby tooth". Ugh.
 
Tin said:
Id suggest just showing him the info and having him descide for himself what he thinks. Having been within the fandom myself, ive realized a lot of them get huffy if they feel someone is trying to pressure them into a different viewpoint.
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Yeah, I guess that is the best option to go with this. I don't want to come off as too mean-spirited and wanting to shove things down someone's throat, even if he does the latter a lot. Then again, I keep having second thoughts, and I dunno if I should get over them.

Also, actual reaction of reading Mr. Enter's cartoon scripts:
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I honestly couldn't read past the tenth line or so in the script.

There was one single joke in it: the character could hear the narrator talking, but no one else could.

Proceed to repeat this joke about eight more times.

Children will get bored of it, adults will cringe at it. That kind of humor is hardly amusing anymore unless done well and given a new flavor. It's why a lot of humor isn't favored, anymore, because it's been done so much. You can complain all you want about how horrible cartoon shows are and how they fall flat, but you look like a bigger fool when you fall into the exact same problems as the people you supposedly despise.

Just because you say you recognize bad writing and plots does not mean if you write a script it will be original and exciting. You can't use every single cartoon that makes you feel comfortable in your bubble as reference. There's a difference between being inspired by Spongebob's humor or blatantly stealing jokes from it and making them run for far, far too long.

I'll try my best to get through the rest of the script, but I can tell it's not going to get better.
 
My goodness... I took a look at that script and found quite a few spelling mistakes. Couldn't they at least use spellcheck on the scripts? Or did they type up their scripts on DA itself?
 
Even with typing the script on dA itself, you'd think that he'd use his browser's built-in spellchecker at the very least. I mean, even I see red squiggly underlines under words that my browser finds dubious even if it really isn't (like "dA" for example) when I type out this very message before I click "Post Reply".
 
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Aobozu said:
Even with typing the script on dA itself, you'd think that he'd use his browser's built-in spellchecker at the very least. I mean, even I see red squiggly underlines under words that my browser finds dubious even if it really isn't (like "dA" for example) when I type out this very message before I click "Post Reply".
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Internet Explorer doesn't have one - maybe Enter's using IE instead of Chrome? I know some people still use it sometimes...
 
I used to keep seeing his Animated Atrocities recommended to me all the time on YouTube and I never bothered with them since I'm not into SpongeBob til now. Having seen some videos, they don't really do it for me. From going way too deeply in the cartoons he reviews, his voice other then his angry parts comes off as bland. I don't know if its just me about his voice, but it makes his reviews more boring.
 
InternetShaft said:
Unfortunately, the Treehouse of Horror ripoff isn't the only episode he did. I took the time to read multiple episodes, and god were they awful and generic. Here's my "favorite" one, and Enter's attempt at an "emotional" story.

http://growing-around.deviantart.com/art/Growing-Around-Episodes-Baby-Tooth-481452207

Here we have gems such as asshole kids (who are guardians for that matter), a shitty musical number, tons of unfunny jokes (he literally steals a gag from the SpongeBob movie, guising it as a "reference"), melodrama, and the main characters hijacking a car (again demonstrating Enter's unadulterated hypocrisy). What a FUN one indeed.
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Sweet jesus...the fuck did I just see? I mean, treating the baby tooth plot seriously with a horrible musical number? I just...

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I actually kind of like Mr. Enter. However I'm not going to tell anyone not to make fun of him. He does have some flaws and it's unfortunate that he is apparently not receptive to criticism. Also I did not know about his fanbase. An overly defensive fanbase can be quite destructive, feeding the subject's ego.
 
Lord Khaz said:
I actually kind of like Mr. Enter. However I'm not going to tell anyone not to make fun of him. He does have some flaws and it's unfortunate that he is apparently not receptive to criticism. Also I did not know about his fanbase. An overly defensive fanbase can be quite destructive, feeding the subject's ego.
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I agree, I don't think he's all bad, but he's kind of a douche.
 
I feel the problem with his "scripts" isn't the use of cliches (though while it is bad, I've seen this with all writers. Even the good ones tend to fall onto these every now and again).

No, the main problem I have with him is how he writes and his lack of humor. You can tell from both the scripts and his videos that he's trying, yet failing, to tell jokes. Even when he's ranting about something you can kinda see him trying to be humorous with the screechy tone he uses ala Doug Walker. Also while I said the cliches aren't the main problem, he seems to use both the lamest and stupidest ones both as jokes and plots. And this is before the heavy amount of spelling and punctuation errors and the unlikeable and bland cast he's cooked up for this series. I know little to nothing about the characters aside from their looks, genders and the (extremely) bare basics, if that.

Also, there's the little fact of how he's writing scripts about something he hates. Doesn't that seem a bit hypocritical to anyone?
 
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I'm still subscribed to his YouTube channel. Just based on what I have seen from his reviews and heard about his cartoon script, my general opinion of him at the moment is that his writing advice is sound, but one should not try to imitate his writing because he does not seem to take his own advice.
 
I used to think he was some sort of god (I even made a comment on one of his scripts back in September saying that) XD
Now... not so much anymore. I was kind of a fanboy back then, but now I'm barely even a fan. He seems to be whiny even when he's PRAISING something. He can make a good review, but a lot of the time it's just nitpicking, and/or bitching and moaning about the writers. Not to mention I get very bored reading his lackluster scripts.
 
Jewelsmakerguy said:
I feel the problem with his "scripts" isn't the cliches (though while it is bad, I've seen this with all writers. Even the good ones tend to fall onto these every now and again).
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Yeah, cliches aren't bad in of itself, even if it can come across this way at times. In fact, even the most groan-inducing cliches can be good if written well enough to be entertaining. In fact, there's no way you can not include at least one cliche in writing a work, no matter how original your work may be. I've seen various media that are chock full of cliches that still manage to pull well and be an enjoyable experience.

The problem with Enter's scripts is that it doesn't even try to do that.
 
Aobozu said:
Yeah, cliches aren't bad in of itself, even if it can come across this way at times. In fact, even the most groan-inducing cliches can be good if written well enough to be entertaining. In fact, there's no way you can not include at least one cliche in writing a work, no matter how original your work may be. I've seen various media that are chock full of cliches that still manage to pull well and be an enjoyable experience.

The problem with Enter's scripts is that it doesn't even try to do that.
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And that's what I'm trying to say, his writing's so terribad, that he can't even get that right. And as I said, that's before getting into the spelling mistakes and (lack of) characterization
 
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