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Pretty lulzy DA forum argument with one of Enter's biggest white knights (especially one that justices his douchiness with his aspergers, nah its actually a troll) and a spergy, vehement hater of his.

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Even for wiki standards, this is unbearable.

Why does he care so much about kids accidetally watching Glenn Martin? How's that his business? Man do I hate how entitled this guy thinks he is.

Everyone has already ripped apart the video more than I ever could (see, Enter, that's called modesty). His hypocrisy, whining, yadayada.

I remember talking to someone over Enter in another forum. He said that, while his reviews were baseless at best and biased at worst, he is a decent convincer. I believe that's why he's immensely popular. He's as pretentious as they come, but it works. No wonder he's got countless impressionable children on his side, despite not knowing what he's doing.
 
I believe that's why he's immensely popular. He's as pretentious as they come, but it works. No wonder he's got countless impressionable children on his side, despite not knowing what he's doing.

This current generation of idiots is going to undergo the largest wave of simultaneous disillusionment in human history.

And that's assuming only half as many of said generation actually grows the fuck up and can think for themselves instead of simply parroting guys who appear to know what they're talking about simply because they're so devoted to spewing bullshit.
 
I used to watch this guy for a while. He was kind of a jerk to anything new, especially hating new Spongebob and Fairly Oddparents, which I never understood.

Is it just the cool thing to bash animation, let alone television animation as a whole just because the characters are less defined than in movies? Especially with shows like Spongebob that continue to be popular for years and have large fanbases that would rage if they saw the shit he spews out of his mouth constantly. Characters evolve all the time. Take the classic Looney Tunes for instance. If one director did Daffy one way (say, a zany screwball) and another director did Daffy a different way (a greedy egotist), then nobody complained. But this is the era of Youtube, where people that have an opinion can voice it, no matter if it'll piss off anybody.

I do have to agree with ME that the quality of these shows has gone down the drain over the years. I think it's less that they're new, and more that people are trying to milk a long dead cow.
However, that doesn't really change that ME does seem to have a pretty apparent bias towards certain shows and does shy away from things he's not familiar with, which really hurts his growth as a reviewer.
 
What I think is pretty telling are the shows he's featured on his Admirable Animations.

Now, most of the shows he features on there are perfectly fine. Most of them are actually pretty good (though I'm not the biggest fan of Courage), but they're all extremely contemporary, all from the late 90's to modern day. There's so much overlap, too. He has like four episodes of Courage the Cowardly Dog, two from Gravity Falls, three from PPG... And many of these are from the same studios/productions as well. The only one that really stands out is Gregory Horror Show and that's mostly because considering how famous all his other choices are I'm amazed he's heard of it.

For a guy who claims to care about animation so much, his reference pool is incredibly small. His "don't assume it's funny" video seems to imply he looks down on cartoons made before his time for having what he claims is "outdated humour", but why? Wouldn't you want to know about the history of your chosen medium before you go into it? But this lack of care would certainly explain why his own cartoons are so bland, seeing as he can't be arsed to watch some examples of animation that might be a little more obscure for a change.

Also it's kind of amazing that he even likes Gravity Falls to begin with because a major source of humour is just how much of a dick Grunkle Stan is.
From what I gather, it's not that Mr. Enter hates when a character is being a dick, he only hates when characters do that if it's unnecessary.
 
From what I gather, it's not that Mr. Enter hates when a character is being a dick, he only hates when characters do that if it's unnecessary.

I always got the impression he hates it when any protagonist acts even slightly malicious because then they'd be "unlikeable".
 
I always got the impression he hates it when any protagonist acts even slightly malicious because then they'd be "unlikeable".
Yeah, but he is for when characters deserve cruelty. Either that, or he's a hypocrite.
 
Yeah, but he is for when characters deserve cruelty. Either that, or he's a hypocrite.
I'd wager the latter. Considering his characters do rather unlikable things like steal a motorcycle and destroy half a city by just commuting.
 
Mr. Enter strives to give the kiddies "wise words of wisdom" in storytelling so here's his latest.

Writing Tips: Avoiding Bad Worldbuilding
One of the first mistakes that a writer of speculative fiction (science fiction, fantasy, or supernatural horror) makes is front-loading every little bit of information of their world that they painstakingly made. One of the last mistakes that a writer of speculative fiction makes is giving stupid details of their world, unknowingly retconing things, and explaining things that don't need explaining because this usually ends their career or irreparably damages a franchise. Today's lesson is about "bad worldbuilding" because the hardest part of actually creating a fictional world is giving too much detail.

This one is going to be different for different types of media. For example, most television shows have a build-as-you-go kind of feel (think Fairly Odd Parents), while a series of novels is usually planned out from the beginning. As an aside, if you're planning out an entire series of novels, make sure that at least the very first one can stand completely on its own to the point where no one would "need" a sequel. Trust me, it'll save you a lot of trouble, and it'll be much easier to pitch to an actual publisher. But that's a lesson for another day. One lesson at a time, or two in this case.

Obviously leaving things too vague is a bad thing in a story. You don't need to have a master's thesis in writing to know that. However, giving bad details is significantly worse than giving no details. We'll decide what "bad details" are later, right now I have to explain why this is. Honestly to cut a long story short, the answer is the Star Wars prequels. When the Force was a vague... force, it made sense. What mattered was that the characters believed that the Force worked (and that both moralities had it, but once again, another day). Then George Lucas tried to explain why the Force worked. And explaining it added more questions that were never answered.

Today's rule of thumb: any worldbuilding should remove more questions than it adds. Yes there are exceptions, but that's not the point. You're not an Adventure Time writer. I don't care if you're saving the answers until later. Remember, you want your audience to be around until later, and more importantly, you want them to care. Bad worldbuilding actively kills the suspension of disbelief. People aren't stupid, and giving too many details is often the result of not having faith in your audience. You often don't even have to tell your audience anything about your world up front. If they can gravitate towards the characters or the story, then you can let the world unfold in front of them.

That brings us to "show, don't tell." Honestly, if a detail needs to be told to the audience and can't be shown, it might not be all that important. "For the longest time our people have been ruled over by an evil dictator" changes to seeing landscapes filled with wartorn battles, statues to this dictators, people cowering in fear from soldiers. By telling when you should be showing you risk giving stupid details because your explaination for how magic works might be convoluted beyond all belief. I have literally stopped reading books because the writers were spending too long and being too convoluted on how magic in their world works. I don't care! I don't need to know that you're pulling fireballs from another dimension! And all too often it ends up being a more complex way of wording: "I wave my magic wand and something happens." Even if your character is learning how to be better at magic, it doesn't matter how the hell it happens. I can write a novel without knowing how the English language came to be, or in even worse cases, how language itself came into being.

You want to give your audience the bare minimum they need to not be confused, at least at the beginning. As you get better at writing you'll learn more and more where that point is. This is an art, not a science. That's why so many rules can be broken, by the way; they're more like guidelines. What does your audience need to know up front? Your main character, several details about him, his main goal, and his location in the world. That's it really. Think of how your character relates to the world around him and show him doing those things to get across the points of your world. If it isn't plot-necessary, cut it. You might be really, really excited about this little detail, but try to supress it. In most cases, all of your characters will contain this specific piece of knowledge and two characters should NEVER talk to each other with exposition that they both know.

That should get you well on your way to avoiding too much worldbuilding (or rather, too much front-loading). It's time to avoid bad worldbuilding—giving your audience details that will piss them off. Refer to my previous points about over-explaining. If the audience doesn't need to know how x-thing works, don't tell them how x-thing works. Your audience may care, but they'll care a hell of a lot more if you explain this badly. You can explain things badly with poorly chosen words, logical errors, technical errors, and not considering literally everything from the beginning of your series. If you say this thing happens in this specific way, it must have been that way from the beginning. This could work if you were planning it out from the very beginning, but otherwise...

Let's talk about retconning. Retconning has a bad reputation. It's a term that means changing up or removing an established plot point. Retconning is different than misdirection. Misdirection is when you tell your audience purposely wrong information for a twist later, and yes, you can turn something in hindsight into misdirection instead of hindsight. It just takes a little extra thought. So, your character learned about this ancient monster in a history book? Well guess what, that book was made by a tribe that didn't have the tools to examine it closely. Oh, you thought the red guys won that war? Well, guess what, it was just government propaganda. Don't do this too much though, or it turns into a joke. Or do it a lot, and turn it into a joke on purpose. It works great for cartoons, hint hint. Something about coconuts...

So... when do you give more details about your world? When it's relevant to the plot. Or a joke if you're doing comedy. Fantasy comedy is a thing (good luck with that. Horror-comedy is easier to write). A lot of writing is "less is more." When should the beginning of your story be? At the latest possible point. How much world-exposition should you give to your audience? Just enough for them not to be confused. Can you give them bread crumbs of world-building? Sure, as long as it doesn't get in the way of the plot or anything. If you're doing a visual medium use things like the backgrounds to get the job done. In any medium, you can learn a lot about what people talk about and the way they talk about it.

Giving exposition about worldbuilding is a touchy subject to begin with. Like I said prior, two characters shouldn't tell each other what they both already know. Usually these two characters live on the same planet. And the narrator of the story is supposed to assume that you do too (no cheating). If worldbuilding doesn't remove any questions (net) from your series, then it's unnecessary at best. Yes, worldbuilding is a nice spice but if you use too much or the wrong kind you will give people diarrhea. That is not a desirable option.

However, if you absolutely CANNOT avoid the temptation of everyone knowing every little detail of your book/show/movie/whatever, make a pseudo-nonfiction book. Write the text books you might find in that world and publish them. A lot of authors do that, it's generally part of an expanded universe.

Writing Tips: Avoiding Bad Worldbuildingby MrEnter
Literature / Prose / Non-Fiction / Articles & Interviews©2015 MrEnter

Yes, I'll get to the requested topics soon enough. I just thought the importance of these last two outweighed the ones I put in the poll. This stuff trips up people before they even get the point of needing to keep characters likable. Today's lesson... don't be Geor-- just kidding. Today's lesson is not to world-build too much (or at the very least world-expose too much). It's a lesson that I even have trouble dealing with sometimes.
 
Oh for fucks sake (from his twitter)

Ugh, I haven't heard a moral this bad since Stuck in the Wringer. Or maybe I have. "Boys vs Girls" from Go! just reminds me of SItW (Stuck in the Wringer, a spongebob episode he did an Animated Atrocity on)
 
Mr. Enter does the obligatory "pony plot" for his cartoon.

http://mrenter.deviantart.com/art/Growing-Around-Episodes-My-Pretty-Pony-512058542

[Scene Sally is in the kitchen, covered in splotches of flour and dough. She is stirring a pot of some random concoction. The kitchen is an absolute disaster area.]

Sally: That's ten bars of chocolate, a pint of ice cream, and three eggs. Now where did I put them?

[She looks up to see one of the eggs rotating on top of the fridge]

Sally: Oh yeah. I gotta stop playing with those

[Sally walks over to the fridge, and starts reaching up. She begins jumping up and down trying to get to them.]

Sally: Hey Robbie, I need your help for a minute!

[We get a slow motion shot as she just barely touches it and misses. Then in normal speed she falls on her back]

Sally: Ow....

[Sally touching the eggs causes them to fall off of the side of the fridge. They hit a wooden spoon laying next to the fridge and roll down it. When they go over the bottom ridge they fly into the air. We cut to Sally looking on nervously as the shadows of the eggs go flying across her face. They get swung around on the ceiling fan and launched towards an empty cooking bowl where they spin around and around. They eggs lie in the middle, unharmed. Sally inspects the eggs]

Sally: Whew, that was a close one!

Robert: Hey, Sally, did you need something?

[Sally gets surprised]

Sally: Eep!

[Sally turns around and places her hand on the bowl. This turns the bowl in a catapult and the eggs fly into Robert's face as he's walking. Unable to see he steps on a rolling pin. This causes him to fall over and backwards. We see Sally really cringing as he does so]

[We cut to some time later where Sally is passing in the hallway. We hear the sound of the door opening as Timmy and Robert come in. Robert has got his arm in a sling]

Sally: I-is Robbie okay?

Timmy: He just sprained his arm. Nothing too major.

[While they say this we see Robert climbing down on the couch. Sally runs up to him.]

Sally: I'm really, really sorry!

Robert: Don't worry about it Sally. It was an accident. Give it about a week and it'll have healed up.

Sally: But it shouldn't have happened! If I didn't make such a mess in the kitchen you wouldn't have sprained your wrist! I really want to make it up to you!

Robert: Don't worry about it.

Sally: Alright I won't, but I am going to make your favorite meal for dinner tonight!

Robert: What about the stuff you were already making?

[Sally looks downtrodden]

Sally: I can't make it anymore. We're all out of eggs.

[We cut to a montage of Sally doing random things for Robert, basically being a servant to him. With every thing that she does he shows more and more annoyance. For most of his healing what he wants the most is to be left alone. Sally isn't doing anything other than merely annoying him though. We cut to Sally at a hairdresser's place, and she's talking with her friends: May and Julie.]

Sally: I just don't know. I mean he doesn't seem angry, but I just keep feeling guilty about it. His wrist is all better and for some reason I still feel guilty.

Julie: Well what have you done for him?

Sally: I've done everything I could think of for the past week! I don't know what else to do!

May: Well, maybe you could get him the most awesome present you could think of!

[We see Sally light up with an idea]

Sally: I've got an idea!

[The next morning, the sun comes up gently through Robert's room. He opens his eyes to see that he's face to face with a living-breathing pony. The pony is white and has a pink bow in her mane. We cut to outside when we hear Robert's loud scream. Then we cut to downstairs in the living room where Sally has a smug smile on her face]

Robert: Sally, why is there a horse in my room!?

Sally: Surprise! Do you love it!?

Robert: Wait, what?

Sally: Robbie, I really wanted to make it up to you when I accidently sprained your wrist, and so I thought what was the most awesome thing in the world? Something that could instantly make anyone happy? And the answer instantly came to me!

[Sally jumps with excitement]

Sally: A PONY! I don't know why I didn't think of this sooner?

[Timmy & Linda walk down the stairs. They're both dressed in their pajamas. Timmy is rubbing his eyes]

Timmy: [groggy] What's going on between you two?

Robert: [In disbelief] Sally... bought me... a pony

[Linda falls down laughing]

[We cut to the kitchen where the Dunn family is having breakfast, or trying to. The pony is in there and chewing on Robert's pajamas]

Robert: Sally, are you sure that this was a good idea?

[Sally pushes a chair up to the table. At first it seems like her own]

Sally: Robbie, nothing is too good for you, not even a pony!

Robert: Well... does she have to eat at the table?

[The pony climbs up onto the chair and starts eating from the table]

Sally: Gumdrops here is a dignified member of the family! Of course she has to eat at the table!

Linda: Well... how much did... Gumdrops cost?

[Timmy puts his spoon down and glares at Sally]

Timmy: Yeah Sally, how much did this expensive pony cost?

[Sally looks back and forth and awkwardly before she slams her hands down on the table]

Sally: Did I mention that Gumdrops came with a heart-shaped brush and 25 really cool accessories! And Robbie, you've got all weekend to play with her!

Gumdrops: [Horse noises]

Robert: Thanks Sally, but I—

Timmy: You two take Gumdrops outside. I gotta have a talk with Sally...

Robert: Alright, fine...

[Robert pulls Gumdrops by her restraints and they go outside to the back yard. Linda follows after him. In the background we see Timmy frantically yelling at Sally through the windows and waving his arms all around. There should be many background gags pertaining to this]

Linda: So... what do you think this is all about?

Robert: Sally keeps trying to "apologize" to me, even though I already forgave her.

Linda: But why would she get you a pony? I mean that sounds like something that she herself would want.

Robert: Huh, you're kind of right. I mean, I have been saying that I don't want any of these gifts. If I gave this one back, she'd probably be the one to keep it. You can't really return a pony to the dealership, but would Sally really do something like this?

[The camera pans over a bunch of Sally's topiary: bushes in the shapes of unicorns and horses. At the end of the pan there's a headless bush with Gumdrops perfectly standing behind it, chewing on what is left of the bush's head]

Robert: I can't believe she'd do something like that!

Linda: Hey, don't be too upset. Kids do stuff like this all the time.

Robert: I've got an idea. I'll pretend to enjoy Gumdrops. If I actually like having the pony around and don't give Sally a chance to play with it, her plan backfires.

Linda: I don't think it's going to be that easy.

Robert: Why do you say that?

Linda: For one, it's too small for a grown-up to even ride. And two, it's eating your pants.

[We pan out to see Gumdrops eating Robert's pants in an almost lazy way while he's standing there in his underwear.]

Robert: I'll make it work.

[We cut to Robert walking through the kitchen with Gumdrops. Sally and Timmy instantly stop their argument when Robert goes by]

Sally: Hey Robbie, where are you going with Gumdrops?

Robert: [Faking a smile] Well, I'm going to pick out the best of her accessories and then I'm going to take her for a walk around the neighborhood.

[Sally clasps her hands]

Sally: You really do like her!?

Robert: Oh yes, I love the pony! I'm sure we're going to be best friends.

[Gumdrops farts]

Sally: You two have fun!

[The camera holds on her looking realistically happy while Timmy is folding his arms. As the camera pans out he sticks out his tongue at her]

Sally: shut up.

[We cut to Robert walking the pony around the neighborhood, on a leash like a dog. He doesn't look happy in the slightest. In fact, he looks very irritated. Not only that, but he gets laughed at by some boys running down the road]

Boy 1: Your daughter makes you walk her pony!? Does she force you join her tea parties too?

[Robert grumpily walks by, until Gumdrops refuses to move forward. She looks at Robert with a questioning glance]

Robert: Well... no. Only when I get bad grades...

[Gumdrops belts out a horse-laugh]

Robert: And we're walking. And we're walking.

[We cut to them back at the Dunn's front yard. Robert looks Gumdrops in the eye]

Robert: Alright, you know the story we're going with, right?

[Gumdrops nods]

[Robert opens the door and Sally is standing there with that same happy grin]

Sally: How was your walk?

Robert: Oh, it was great! But now Gumdrops has bugs in her mane and I need to brush them out.

[We see Gumdrops make a few offended motions and sounds, as if to say "do not!"]

Sally: That looks like a lot of work. Do you need any help?

Robert: Nope, I can do it all on my own.

Sally: But—

Robert: All. On. My. Own. Come on Gumdrops

[Robert needs to drag Gumdrops up the stairs]

[We cut to some time later when there's a knock on Robert's door. Linda comes in]

Linda: Hey Robbie, how has it been going?

Robert: Great. I wanted to spend my Saturday braiding a horse's mane.

[The camera pans out to see Gumdrops looking rather annoyed and her mane and tail in a mess of random braids, ribbons, and bows]

Linda: Don't worry about it. I'm sure that Sally's going to crack soon enough. I mean that girl is a pony nut.

Robert: I hope so, I can't stand the smell of horse.

[Gumdrops looks at Robert angrily. Robert throws his hands up in defense]

Robert: No offense. It's not you, it's me.

[Gumdrops snorts as if to say "okay..." and looks away]

Robert: I'm sure that I can handle taking care of Gumdrops as long as it takes. I mean how hard can it be?

[We cut to later at night with Robert awake, lying in his bed. He has a stern look of horror. We hear Gumdrops constantly farting. When he looks over to her she is sleeping absolutely comfortably]

[We cut to the next day at breakfast, where Robert is acting really, really tired. Sally serves him some breakfast]

Sally: So, how was your first night with Gumdrops?

Robert: Great! We were having so much fun we stayed up all—

[He falls asleep right into his food]

Linda: Hey, where is Timmy?

[Timmy walks by angrily]

Timmy: Going to work.

Linda: On a Sunday?

Timmy: Well SOMEONE here understands how money works.

Sally: I told you Timmy, we can afford a pony if it makes Robert happy!

[Gumdrops begins licking Robert's ear as he's sleeping in his breakfast]

Timmy: [Mocking tone] Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll see you guys later.

[We cut to some time later where Robert is doing his homework. Gumdrops puts her head on the top of the kitchen table and stares at him]

Robert: What do you want? I gotta do my homework. Unless you want to join me in Sally's next tea party.

[Gumdrops makes horse noises]

Robert: I already took you for a walk. I only need to be made fun of by every guy while you get cooed over by every girl once a day, thank you.

[Gumdrops starts eating some of Robert's homework. He frantically grabs it, and they have a tug of war until it rips in half. Gumdrops fully eats her half]

Robert: [annoyed shout]

[Linda enters the room]

Linda: Robbie, I heard a shout, what's going on?

[Robert angrily storms over to her.]

Robert: [Over-the-top tone through gritted teeth] My PONY ate my homework.

Linda: Robbie, calm down. If you get this angry how are you going to teach Sally a lesson?

Robert: I'm not. I give up. Sally can you come in here?

[Sally enters the kitchen]

Sally: Yeah Robbie, you want something?

Robert: You want to ride Gumdrops?

Sally: Why would I want to ride Gumdrops? She's your pony, Robbie.

Robert: You can stop playing around now. You win.

Sally: I'm... not playing. What are you getting at?

Linda: Uh... leaving now.

[She leaves the room]

Robert: I don't want the pony. I guess she's yours now.

[Gumdrops' mouth hangs open in surprise]

Sally: [straight] Oh... well... if you don't want Gumdrops I'll take her back to the dealership tonight.

Robert: Wait... what?

Sally: I bought Gumdrops for you. She's yours. Or at least she was. I wanted to make it up to you and I got you the most awesomest thing I could think of: a pony. But I guess it wasn't enough.

Robert: I told you Sally, you didn't need to make it up to me. I forgave you.

Sally: I know... but I kept feeling guilty about it! I wanted to do something for you!

Robert: Alright, here's the deal. Since Gumdrops ate my homework, you don't make me attend one of your tea parties when Ms. Kathy fails me for it.

Sally: A-alright. I guess that'll work.

[She smiles]

Robert: And we should also take Gumdrops back to the dealership.

[Gumdrops bursts into over-the-top crying]

Robert: Hey, don't be too sad. I'm sure you'll find someone who will appreciate your... special talents. It's just not me.

[Gumdrops makes a sigh, like "alright..."]

[Sally and Robert walk Gumdrops out of the house]

Narrator: Epilogue

[Timmy is home after a long day of Sunday work. Sally is standing nervously in the door]

Timmy: Sally what do you want? I had a long day at work to help pay for that pony you bought.

Sally: Well... we... kinda... took it back.

Timmy: [angry pause]

Sally: Look, let me make it up to you!

[Timmy walks inside with Sally giving a bunch of suggestions of what she could do for an apology]
 
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