The Windows OS Thread - Formerly THE OS for gamers and normies, now sadly ruined by Pajeets

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DirectX 12 doesn't work on 10 IOT LTSC (or at least it didn't for me
Likely didn't for you, DX12 first appeared in Win10, as in the 2015 RTM release, and I remember it working on 10 IoT LTSC before I upgraded, so it must've been a fluke. You know how MS certified jeets tell you to DISM+SFC as a default answer? That's basically a soft reinstall of Windows that has a good chance of fixing odd issues like that. Maybe something somewhere fucked up and you're missing DX12 libraries somehow, which is something that this combo could fix.
 
DirectX 12 doesn't work on 10 IOT LTSC (or at least it didn't for me when I was playing Fortnite). 10 IOT LTSC is also missing a bunch of other stuff, which has caused the latest version of LibreOffice to not work either.
I might need to upgrade to Windows 11 soon...
What kind of GPU are you running? It should support the full DX12 Ultimate.
 
What kind of GPU are you running? It should support the full DX12 Ultimate.
I was using integrated graphics.
FUCK I'M A RETARD :stress:. I thought that it was an issue with IOT LTSC instead of my system because when I looked it up I saw someone else have the same issue and I didn't look into it any further.
 
there's currently a few different projects to cut windows 11 as small as possible, such as Tiny11, AtlasOS, Nano11, ReviOS. Tiny11 and Nano11 are focused on stripping down Windows as much as possible, while AtlasOS is more gaming optimized and ReviOS tries to find a balance where it doesn't sacrifice stability or security much.

In theory if someone was to use something like this, how much of the OS and apps could they replace while still supporting things like apps and games that can't run on linux at all? Like, i know you can install Open Shell and FileCommander, but what else can replace the core system? Could you theme it to look like Linux Mint for the lulz?
 
In theory if someone was to use something like this, how much of the OS and apps could they replace while still supporting things like apps and games that can't run on linux at all?
It's just like modifying a browser or game. The next official Windows update might make everything incompatible or just break everything. You can put classic shells and other modifications on Windows 11. But one automatic update might roll back or just disable everything you've changed. Or possibly just wipe out your entire setup because it's Microsoft and modern software. You can either (attempt to) disable all updates or be prepared to constantly have to adjust your settings if Microsoft messes around with your modifications.

Older versions of Windows were no different. You'd update 98 or XP and next thing you know your soundcard isn't working. Or your games are running at the wrong settings. Or the computer is only running on safe mode and you can't boot normally because of something Microsoft changed. Modern phones are just like this as well. You update your phone OS and it disables something like uBlock Origin and then you find that the new update is not compatible with half of the things you loaded into your phone.

This is why so many comments on places like reddit are users screaming at people to "leave the auto update on security reasons" to gaslight people into keeping their personal computer into just being another corporately controlled machine.
 
The next official Windows update might make everything incompatible or just break everything. You can put classic shells and other modifications on Windows 11. But one automatic update might roll back or just disable everything you've changed. Or possibly just wipe out your entire setup because it's Microsoft and modern software. You can either (attempt to) disable all updates or be prepared to constantly have to adjust your settings if Microsoft messes around with your modifications.
Use an LTSC version of Windows and this stops really being a concern.
 
LTSC only gets security updates, it's the feature updates that breaks tweaks.
"Security updates" and "feature updates" are pretty fucking misleading, but that's what Bharatsoft chooses to use.

Security updates are the cumulative monthly updates shipped for supported versions of Windows 11. Right now it's 24H2 and 25H2. 24H2 will go EOL soon, in October, but the LTSC and IoT LTSC versions will be supported until 2029 and 2034 respectively. Thing is, these ship more than just security patches. KB5121003 that went out on August 11th for example, the latest Patch Tuesday. It includes changes from KB5101684 that introduced new features.
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They're not much, sure, but they are new features that ship in a "security update". Including LTSC versions. IIRC, right now on Insider/Preview builds of Windows, Microsoft is testing the re-addition of what the taskbar used to have since it's inception in Windows 95: the ability to move it around, as well as the ability to set it to use smaller icons. Five years after they've removed those features only to boast about them being "new", amazing. Anyway, these "new" features should appear in the upcoming preview update for 24H2 and 25H2, and after that, they'll show up in the next Patch Tuesday on September 8th, by which point this "new" feature will ship to every supported Windows 11 installation, including LTSC builds. But it'll present itself as a "security update".

"Feature updates" on the other hand are essentially major Windows 11 reinstalls. Think Service Packs of old, or upgrading your XP machine to Vista. Switching from 24H2 to 25H2. Or upgrading from Windows 10 to Windows 11. The big jump that requires a lot of under-the-hood changes that will unroll tweaks, just due to how they're applied. This is something you get away from on LTSC versions, where you decide when you want to do a "feature update" to the next major LTSC release, next one being LTSC 2027, while being able to use a now unsupported release, in this case 24H2, for many years while still getting the security updates.

So yeah, there are a lot of misconceptions about what it is that you're getting with LTSC builds compared to GAC builds. The most important differences boil down to this:
-5 years of updates on LTSC, 10 years of updates on IoT LTSC, compared to 2 years of updates on consumer GAC and 3 years of updates on enterprise GAC
-no forced "feature updates", essentially freezing your version on the one that was shipped, until a new one ships, by which point you have to obtain the newer LTSC ISO to do an in-place upgrade
-a good chunk of consumer bullshit not shipping by default, however IIRC enterprise GAC releases do the same thing

There are some other minor differences between LTSC and IoT LTSC, some of which Massgrave has listed out.
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It's also worth mentioning what the fuck is an IoT and why people recommend it. IoT is essentially what Microsoft used to call Embedded. They're thinned out versions of Windows that are meant to go on cash registers, self-checkout registers, order kiosks, everything that's very weak and is meant to do one specific purpose and be as rock solid at it as possible. The "tech literate" smug shits like to mock people that these are "versions you're not supposed to use", that "you shouldn't use a kiosk version", but the reality is that these versions are not in any way different from standard Windows versions. They still come with every consumer oriented feature and setting, they'll still run every program you'd be able to run on a GAC edition, and all that's different is that Microsoft ships them with as little shit as possible, and has a slightly different update roadmap for them. But like I said, very little differences otherwise, so if you install this "version for kiosks you shouldn't use on a desktop", you'll get the movable taskbar feature on this "version for kiosks only".

Seriously, I can't get over the fact that Linux cultists chose "a version for kiosks shouldn't be used on desktops" as an insult. As if they don't love to brag about how they installed Arch or Gentoo that by default doesn't even ship with a fucking DE and you have to manually set one up. Have I mentioned that I have a deep disdain for retards that act like they know shit about fuck but end up spewing the most emotionally driven idiocies known to mankind?
 
as well as the ability to set it to use smaller icons
That has been around for quite some time. I think, 24H2 has always had it, although I don't really remember. Personally, I use an intermediate size with Windhawk: 1.5x icon scaling instead of 1x or 2x.
 
Windows Phone 8 and 8.1 was peak mobile computing before the pajeets completely took over Microsoft. It looked great, ran smoothly, the live tiles on mobile were amazing, and that always-on display (glance screen) omfg.

We don’t hate Microsoft and India enough.
 
I'm getting around to needing to upgrade from windows 10 to 11, thankfully all I do is game on windows, is there anything to keep in mind/I should do going into win 11? I still only have a local account, can I just turn off all the gay shit I don't want, as in ads, telemetry, and spying in general?
 
I'm getting around to needing to upgrade from windows 10 to 11, thankfully all I do is game on windows, is there anything to keep in mind/I should do going into win 11? I still only have a local account, can I just turn off all the gay shit I don't want, as in ads, telemetry, and spying in general?
Check out ReviOS? It’ll help cut the bullshit out of Windows while still being more stable then Tiny11
 
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