The Windows OS Thread - Formerly THE OS for gamers and normies, now sadly ruined by Pajeets

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Oh sweet this seems really interesting, has anyone actually audited this though? I'm a little wary of installing out the gate.
I have a relative who recommended it to me for gaming systems, and asking the clankers who compared it to the other options like tiny11 or Atlas, it’s a lot more conservative about what it cuts out so the end result is still stable and secure. I have to double check how updates are handled, however
 
Oh sweet this seems really interesting, has anyone actually audited this though? I'm a little wary of installing out the gate.
I have used it for years and currently use it on my Windian 11 Dual Boot

I use Garuda Linux and an 11 LTSC dual boot, ReviOS is not as extreme as Atlas but it also has a cool GUI and works on LTSC

If a game runs like shit on Troonix(Space Marine 2), I boot into LTSC with ReviOS applied
 
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At one point Microsoft (and Google) needs to be declared by the US government as foreign bodies working against American interests since they are essentially Indian companies working for Globalists in the United Nations.

But given that the Globalhomo needs the Indians in big tech to usher upon the new age and all governments are now part of the same enemy, they wouldn't (and if they do expect it to be part of a reverse psyop scheme).
 

With the current state of RAM prices, new Windows 11 laptops with only 4GB of RAM are being sold right now. I wouldn't expect any of these systems to run Windows 11 well even if all the coming optimizations are as good as they claim.

Have they figured out how to get the Weather app to use less than 1GB of RAM yet?
 
With the current state of RAM prices, new Windows 11 laptops with only 4GB of RAM are being sold right now. I wouldn't expect any of these systems to run Windows 11 well even if all the coming optimizations are as good as they claim.

Have they figured out how to get the Weather app to use less than 1GB of RAM yet?
4 GB is the official minimum supported RAM for Windows 11, and I've seen crappy 4 GB shittops being sold even before the RAM crisis.


You don't want to use one of those things, particularly when the memory is soldered, but the advent of ubiquitous SSD storage arguably made it easier to tolerate, since swap performance is so much higher than an HDD. That will hurt SSD endurance, but it's effectively a disposable computer.
 
I tried out Cairo Desktop just to see what it was like and I instantly fell in love with it. I have already chosen the option to replace explorer.exe with it as my main DE and I can't see myself looking back. Using my PC has never felt smoother and faster. The only thing I don't like about it is its lack of customizability and features. The only thing avaliable is theming through an .xaml file but I'm not interested in that since the built-in flat theme is fine for me.

The only troubles I have faced are with some programs not launching / working properly now that explorer.exe is gone (which handled a lot more than I thought like UWP apps and the like such as Settings) but I have either found alternatives or changed my workflow to accomodate for it. So far, everything has been smooth sailing.
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(I don't understand why the network icon keeps appearing because I can't use it as is. I hate that I can't remove it either because there's no feature to hide / remove icons from Cairo's version of a system tray)
 
I tried out Cairo Desktop just to see what it was like and I instantly fell in love with it. I have already chosen the option to replace explorer.exe with it as my main DE and I can't see myself looking back. Using my PC has never felt smoother and faster. The only thing I don't like about it is its lack of customizability and features. The only thing avaliable is theming through an .xaml file but I'm not interested in that since the built-in flat theme is fine for me.

The only troubles I have faced are with some programs not launching / working properly now that explorer.exe is gone (which handled a lot more than I thought like UWP apps and the like such as Settings) but I have either found alternatives or changed my workflow to accomodate for it. So far, everything has been smooth sailing.
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(I don't understand why the network icon keeps appearing because I can't use it as is. I hate that I can't remove it either because there's no feature to hide / remove icons from Cairo's version of a system tray)

jeetware
 
Sirs? What is this?
2026-09 Extended Security Updates (ESU) Licensing Preparation Package for Windows 10 Version 22H2 for x64-based Systems (KB5126256)
I thought Windows 10 was out of support hmm?

Oh, nevermind.

About this Windows 10 ESU Licensing Preparation Package​

This Windows 10 ESU Licensing Preparation Package (KB5126256) updates the licensing and enrollment components required for a Windows 10, version 22H2 device to enroll in the Extended Security Updates (ESU) program.

This package is required for ESU enrollment and only applies to devices that are not enrolled in the ESU program. It prepares a device for ESU licensing and enrollment but does not enroll the device or install Windows 10 security updates. Once installed, complete the ESU enrollment process to receive eligible security updates. Installing this package alone does not provide Extended Security Updates.

Each ESU Licensing Preparation Package supersedes any previously released licensing package. We recommend you install the latest ESU Licensing Preparation Package to be in the best state for participation in the ESU program.
 
Is this why my work computer suddenly wanted to reboot out of the blue?
Microsoft: "No more updates for you sar!"
Users: "Oh thank goodness! Finally no more updates to break my stuff!"
Microsoft: "I lied, here's another useless update that prepares you for updates you're not even gonna get! Now, do the sneedful and restart your computer sar!"
Users: "Reeeeee"
 
Microsoft stops releasing updates for Win10: everyone's mad.
Microsoft releases updates for Win10: everyone's mad.

Yes that's very sane and logical.
 
W11 has one upside for me: updated terminal has features like tabs with option to assign colors and split windows. Useful at work, I wouldn't mind if they also added ability to have toolbar with buttons for executing custom commands. Very convenient for work, no need to ask IT for approval to have usable terminal emulator.
 
W11 has one upside for me: updated terminal has features like tabs with option to assign colors and split windows. Useful at work, I wouldn't mind if they also added ability to have toolbar with buttons for executing custom commands. Very convenient for work, no need to ask IT for approval to have usable terminal emulator.
It also features a Quake-style quick console which was recently adopted by Oh, Marky!
 
W11 has one upside for me: updated terminal has features like tabs with option to assign colors and split windows.
Windows Terminal can be installed separately on the last Win10-based LTSC and Server editions at least (and it works as a full replacement for the regular Win32 console as it should). Did they prevent it from working on the last regular Win10 version?
 
Windows Terminal can be installed separately on the last Win10-based LTSC and Server editions at least (and it works as a full replacement for the regular Win32 console as it should). Did they prevent it from working on the last regular Win10 version?
You could, but like he mentioned, since it comes pre-installed with 11 you have an easier time running it in a corporate setting. Though I think that the last versions of 10 also shipped with it by default. I know that Win10 has been shipping with winget for a while so it's a very nice way to install software across the board.
It also features a Quake-style quick console which was recently adopted by Oh, Marky!
The Quake-style console was a thing long before Windows Terminal was a thing. For example ConEmu had it. Though it has one annoying issue, you can't filter it for shit like GlazeWM so it will be tiled like any other terminal window. There is a hacky way to do it by detecting the Win32 window styling (as it's probably the most reliable way to discern between a Quake style window and a regular one) and adjusting the title bar so that it gets filtered. I vibe coded a Powershell script for that but it's not perfect. Ideally wt itself would change the internal window class or something but no one at MS seems to want to do that.

As for things that Win11 did improve upon:
-WDDM 2.0 with it's WGC is great for Lossless Scaling and gaming in general
-Auto Color Management is fantastic, I didn't even realize what it could do and it made the washed out 45% NTSC screen of my ThinkPad actually look more like sRGB, even if it overshoots many colors but it's much nicer to use now
-the Quick Actions menu looks more like a smartphone menu but it's a good thing, it's more usable on a laptop
-The new WinUI3 Settings are much more pleasant to use than the old Metro/Modern Win10 ones
-Mica is much prettier than Acrylic, that's for sure. Probably the prettiest UI engine since Aero (ofc Aero is still #1)
-the Snap layouts are basically PowerToys FancyZones Lite, and in a way more ergonomic than FancyZones as you get a few premade layouts to choose from instead of one hard set to a given monitor

My first proper personal experience with 11, not toying in a VM or working on someone else's computer, was on my ThinkPad. It's overhated. The shitty UI changes aren't world ending. Everything points to the only logical explanation: people just want to be mad about something in perpetuity. Win11 is a mixed bag of good and bad changes, yet people love to act like this is the Windows release that's so bad that people'll leave Windows en masse. Yeah nah, for all the fuckups that Microsoft has done, Win11's UI is one of the smaller ones. Cuz under the hood it's about as stable as Win10. Meaning that if you didn't have issues with 10, you won't have issues with 11. If your hardware is some unstable combination or your RAM is dying, you'll have problems no matter what. If your system is a-OK, it'll be rock solid.

By the way, the newest Patch Tuesday finally replaced the Win8/Win10 throbbers after 5 years of 11 being out and they finally added the ability to resize and move the taskbar. Except if you move the taskbar anywhere but the bottom auto-hide won't work. And it's all A/B shit you gotta enable with ViVeTool. It's worth reminding that RetroBar is a non-invasive replacement for the system taskbar. It hides the system one and shows it's own, and it's about what you'd expect. Just do keep in mind that it won't show the network icon on 11 as that got removed for the integrated Quick Settings one, but in my case I just Win+A to open it up when I need to manage WiFi connections. Then again I use a completely different workflow with a minimal status bar so
 
Never heard of that
ConEmu is a terminal emulator much like WT. It's older and now unmaintained. Apparently Cmder is still being updated but I don't know if they're doing their own ConEmu maintenance as last I tried it it still ran ConEmu under the hood, it was a very fucky emulator but in a way nicer than WT because it was more classic, Win32 UI and all. WT is okay nowadays, and I do like it when it has the Mica transparency on, looks very nice. Since I also use GlazeWM I disabled tabbing so it more or less acts like classic conhost, but with custom fonts, colors and backgrounds and whatnot.

And yeah they fucked up big time with the taskbar and they won't ever fix it unless they go "fuck it" and rebase it on Win10 code, which is highly unlikely. Even if they bring feature parity on things like positioning, resizing and auto-hide, there's no way in hell they'll bring back Deskbands. You know, that native API that allowed you to pin folders and let other programs add their own widgets? That's gone now.
A good example of how much worse the taskbar is without Deskbands is Everything Toolbar. On Windows 10, it seamlessly integrated with the taskbar where you couldn't notice it was a third party search bar. On Win11, the only option is to... show an overlay window that cannot interact with the taskbar. Yes. Those are the hacks that you'll see with just about every Win11 taskbar widget program, just because by throwing out Win10's taskbar they threw out the Deskbands API.

I'll give the new taskbar one thing though. Due to it being based on WinUI3/React Native/whichever framework got rolled on that particular bit of the UI, it's XAML based, meaning that you can easily customize it in many ways. It's the same type of a double-edged sword as Valve changing Steam's UI to be web based. We've lost all the old themes, but people figured out how to inject their own CSS/JS into the client, allowing for even better theming than before.
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You can now have both the client and the library themed to look like classic Steam. Because it's all webshit, so you can mod it all.
 
We all owe @Slav Power an apology, Windows is superior for the simple reason its not a cognitohazard that induces terminal gender disease and lets you maintain other hobbies and interests outside of computers.

A friend of mine who got into Arch Linux started tranny chasing on discord and was crying to me at 5AM about how he may have done something illegal with an underaged troon on discord, I filed an anonymous police tip because that shit is beyond fucked. He lost all of his other hobbies and started saying how he hated women and that femboys were better. He was not like this before Arch Linux. He stopped watching his favorite shows and playing games and having interests in music. He used to go up and talk to women, now he fears them.

Troonix is objectively fucking dangerous and I was only using it because my 10 year old wifi card worked better with Garuda Linux, after he told me what he did I uninstalled it and formatted my drives back to NTFS and bought a $60 wifi card to use on Windows 11 LTSC.

Fear Troonix, it is the fastest way to catch gender and lose all your hobbies and become an absolute fucking discord degenerate if you let it latch onto your soul.
 
great, so does that mean the desktop will be even more unusable after launch?
because by MS' metric it means showing the desktop as fast as possible and declare a win while everything is still constantly chugging to load the rest in the background.

Did they prevent it from working on the last regular Win10 version?
still works on win10, pro at least. according to https://github.com/microsoft/terminal the minimum is Windows 10 (19041+), but that's only mentioned for canary.
 
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