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Do people who want to fuck balding, obese FtMs with hairy tits even exist? Pooners like this seem so promiscuous but I can't help but wonder who's even fucking them. Probably other gross pooners who all have to go t4t because literally nobody else will give them the time of day. Though straight men who humor them solely to get access to a female body are also extremely pathetic.
If you check the Kelly Lenza thread for her 2025 FetLife saga you'll see that even one of the most hideous hairy middle-aged woman transmac with vulva gape and tits that hang to her knees still has many, many takers. There are many low-quality porn-addicted men out there. A young pooner will have no issue finding a gross ugly dude to dick her.

Edit: I should note because I sound cruel above: Kelly makes herself ugly on purpose. She delights in being off-putting and hard to look at. We have photos of her as a young woman and she looked just fine.
 

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This is Arnold Schwarzenegger at 18. That pooner is 100% contributing to mens' shorter life expectancy figures.

That said, I wanna see this chick next to some actual gym bros. Proximity to real men always gives it away.

I looked at her Instagram and she's pretty careful about who she poses with and how, but I'm seeing she's half Brazilian and half Spanish. Average female height is 5'2 and 5'4 respectively. Plus, testosterone accelerates bone maturation, stunting height development so no hope for a last minute growth spurt. She's gonna be stuck with designer pitbull proportions.
 
Meet tedisnotsfw. She is a 22 year old FtM and probably the only Estonian thing most of you have heard from since you stopped playing Hearts of Iron.

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Her fetishes are getting her holes destroyed by cocks and being a slut. That type of damaged girl is not at all rare on fetlife.
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As there are less people in all of Estonia than in Manhattan and the capital Tallinn has less than 500.000 people living there, she is understandably worried about how small the kink community in her country is. But she is also having issues with conforming to the male role in dating, as she is now subject to the reverse pink-tax. She is also one of those pooners who want to control what others think of her. Oh and she got catfished by a straight guy on grindr who misgendered her during oral.

i want to get more involved, but it's scary​

i want to get more involved with the kink community, but i'm honestly a bit scared.
with how small the community here is, it feels like the main activity is catered towards cisgender heterosexual people and i don't know how to get started in navigating things as someone who is not straight OR cis. for example, recently i saw an announcement for a meetup where the entry fee for women was lower than for men and it honestly put me off, cuz it immediately signaled to me that that is not a space where i would belong, not only because i do not feel neatly in the binary that people primarily think of when they say man and woman, but also because cheaper entry for women inherently implies a very specific heterosexual dynamic, in which i would feel like an outcast, even though i am a guy who likes women.
and that feeling of not belonging sucks, because it knocks down my confidence in general when it comes to putting myself out there. i am newly single and fairly inexperienced, which is already enough of a reason to feel nervous, but then add on top of that the fear of not being accepted or people ignoring who i am in order to project their own ideas onto me,,,,, i've been hooking up with men on grindr and my first hookup straight up tried to call me a good girl while i was sucking him off,,,,, if someone from a gay hookup app sees me as a girl then how can i begin to feel comfortable entering into predominantly heterosexual spaces??? idk,,,,, just having a lot of thoughts and it does not feel nice :/
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Oct 19, 2023
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She also has a thing for clowns. I have always mistrusted clowns, as god intended, but to her it was apparently news that it is not normal to watch clown porn, talk to friends about clown porn, fantasize about clown gangbangs and to have to fight for self control in public at the faintest honkink of a rubber nose.

i love clowns​

i think the funniest and most unusual kinks/fetishes that people can have are ones that they don't realize are weird until someone points them out.

a few months ago i realized i have a genuine thing for clowns. i had always enjoyed clown porn, but i though i just enjoyed the other aspects of those videos. that is, until i was talking to a friend and he pointed out that watching clown porn is not a normal thing to do, and that most people never even happen to watch it.
i was flabbergasted. what do you mean the normal amount of clown porn consumption is zero??? that can't be right,,,,,,, and only then did i notice just how little clown porn there actually is online for free consumption. i started checking out almost anything i could find, and it only got more intense.
my favorite clown video was a rough gangbang video, so i thought that was the main thing arousing me in it, but no,,,,,,,, i started realizing that i am indeed into the clown specific things. i have lost count of how many times i've cum to the sound of bike horn honking or silly laughs.
i haven't had a chance to indulge in this interest of mine irl yet, but gosh, i want it so bad. i recently went to a convention and i saw quite a few people cosplaying as clowns. and every time i had to take a moment to contain myself and keep my mind out of the gutter, so that i could actually be mentally present and not think about having a balloon animal shoved down my throat or a bike horn honked in my ear as i'm getting throatfucked. i certainly can't afford to imagine being gangbanged by a gaggle of clowns on a circus stage while a crowd watches. gosh, i yearn for weird shit like this so bad.
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Jan 16, 2024
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Next up is some reddit content in the form of fetlife screenshots. Made possible by masc4masking. Mordechai describes herself as a "a 32-yr-old sick disabled white Jewish neuro-devient trans masc relationship anarchist leatherboy / pup who loves showing off, being restrained, teased, & fucked hard & deep."

She is looking for "other queer freaks & ESPECIALLY LOOKING FOR LOCAL MASKS-REQUIRED EVENTS!"

If you want to woe her heart and her "(non-op) dick & holes [...] disability justice & goofy weirdo anti-fascist art" is the way to go.

The things she loves are:

"t4t
learning
teaching
disability justice
gay/queer/trans history
anarcho communism
anti-zionist Jewish diaspora
yiddish
rock climbing
writing
playing music
weird little art projects
real new england maple syrup
corn (esp elote)
dogs
certain bugs
new people
old people
death + dying + grief work
zen buddhism
the ronald reagan commemorative gender-neutral bathroom"

Yes, we have a real life queer for Palestine on our hands. But not only Palestine, oh no. Mordechai is reddit incarnate and demands political action.

"FREE PALESTINE! FREE CONGO! EYES ON SUDAN! BLACK LIVES MATTER! LAND BACK EVERYWHERE!"

To drive the point home that this anxious 'lil dood never has had a single thought or opinion her fembrain did not filter through popular opinion and social conformity, here are the things she hates:

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climate collapse
capitalism
fascism
cops
zionism
genocide
white supremacy
colonialism
imperialism
TERFs
SWERFs
MAGA
Blue MAGA
Tories
Nazi punks (fuck off!)"

masc4masking is from Massachusetts and so assimilated into the hive mind of reddit that she hates the British cuckservatives. She at least liked some weird stuff, but her dislikes are straight up copied from elsewhere.

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Wonder what the CDC has to say on getting lead around on a leash and trading intense bites with other puppies.
 

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Yes, we have a real life queer for Palestine on our hands. But not only Palestine, oh no. Mordechai is reddit incarnate and demands political action.
Have we ever considered the possibility that chickens for KFC may be a kink thing?

More thoughts:
  • I hope the picture in the church is green screen.
  • The "Ouchsurfing" group seems like something out of a Netflix true crime. Jeffrey Dahmer would’ve loved this.
  • How do you get only 6% vanilla on the BDSM test? Aren’t the "vanilla" questions all basic like "I love and care for my partner"?
  • Covid Cautious LMAO. Nuffin wrong with pedo fantasies (92% Little) but you draw the line at lil covid. I don’t get it.
  • Being in a climbing gym surrounded by howling pooners and degens sounds like a nightmare.
 
I've got one more. It is a very special one. A pooner dominatrix going by DariusRex, a 35 year old non-binary trans-man from the city sized live reenactment of weimarian degeneracy Berlin.

Darius combines goofy looks and weird sexual interests. But what makes her special is that she advertises herself as a dominatrix in the language of the leftist academic and gender-activist. She isn't offering to beat your meat, no she "explores and understands human bodies under politics and embodied aspects".

Non-German speakers might not get how deranged Darius sounds. You know the activists that stopped calling black people people and instead use phrases like "the experiences of black bodies"? That's Darius, except as a sex worker. It's like your car mechanic parsing everything in the language of catholic theological discourse.

Organizer* of the queer event series BDSM Beyond Binary @ BDSM Studio Lux, Berlin

I am a non-binary transmasc, Dominus Beyond Binary at BDSM Studio Lux, a sexological bodyworker* and activist at trans*sexworks.

As a Dominus* and Bodyworker*, my work consists of researching and understanding human bodies from a political and embodied point of view. In my work, I constantly question the established norms regarding identity, gender, sexuality and social taboos. I see vulnerability and insecurities in the game as a resource. Both are a powerful source that contributes to personal, sensual and pleasurable growth.

As an activist, community-based work, solidarity politics and networking are the linchpin of my political work. My goal is to open and create more spaces for queer, kinky and sex-positive people. Especially with the strengthening of right-wing forces in Germany and Europe, we need safe spaces for our right to self-determination, to live out our sexuality(s) and to develop our identity(s). The BDSM Studio Lux stands for exactly these three pillars.
The stars are a feature of German gender discourse. As German is a thoroughly gendered language, queer bodies minds use stars to symbolize all the gender expressions.

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Can you imagine this person commanding you with a stern look in her teddy bear eyes?
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Darius is part of BDSM Studio Lux/Archive, a BDSM studio by people of gender for people of gender.

LUX is a unique place for BDSM, eroticism and creative encounters.
In the heart of Berlin, we offer rooms designed with great attention to detail: for sessions, workshops or private rental.

But we see ourselves as more than just a dominatrix studio: LUX lives by and for the community.

What makes us special​


  • Commitment to sex worker rights
  • Fair, transparent & solidarity-based working conditions
  • Team-oriented studio management instead of profit maximization
  • Redistribution of resources
  • A network of diverse colleagues, supportive and collaborative
  • Internal training and further education
  • Support for the sex worker community

Who we are​


We are a diverse team from almost every area of sex work – often queer, always committed, and bringing different perspectives. Together, we shape BDSM Studio LUX as a place created by, with and for the community.

About Me​


Current favorite toy​


You are my most valuable toy – especially your alert mind, which carries the longing for pleasure, authenticity, and radical self-determination. In the session, your body becomes a living instrument with which we explore together how pleasure, control, surrender, and boundaries can be reshaped again and again.
The tools and toys we use are not mere objects, but bridges to your inner world. They open up spaces where your body feels, your mind awakens, and your boundaries become powerfully tangible – not to cross them, but to make them palpable and consciously shape them.
This encounter is more than play: it is a mindful, political, and sensual act of self-empowerment. You are the heart of every touch, every moment – and together we create a space where your presence, your desires, and your authentic self come alive.

What kind of kinky personality are you?​


I am a creative, sensual, and devoted BDSMer – playful, empathetic, and with a fine sense for dynamics that get under your skin. Whether it’s petplay, wrestling, or imaginative role-play – I love diving into new worlds together, switching roles, and bringing the play with power and devotion to life.
As a sensual dominus, I want more than just control – I want to feel your desire. Your craving for more. Your trembling in the moment of tension, your sigh when you finally let go. Give up control and trust yourself to me – I’ll take you on a journey that can be as intense as it is liberating.
My hands are more than tools – they are instruments of pleasure and discipline. Trained in hand spanking, acupressure, and meridian massage, they know how to build intimacy and tantalizingly shift boundaries. And when it needs to go beyond that, I gladly reach for toys, impact instruments, and anything that makes the play more intense.
I love artful bondage and the variety of materials: leather or latex bags, collars or cold metal chains – every session becomes a tailor-made experience.
Whether it’s gentle exploration or playing with the intensity of physical punishment – I shape our time to suit you. Sensual, imaginative, demanding.
Let yourself go. Come on this journey with me. And discover what’s inside you when you let go.

What defines you?​


I am a creative, sensual, and devoted BDSMer with over ten years of experience. For me, it’s not just about technique – but connection. I love building dynamics based on trust, emotional intelligence, and clear communication.
My roles are fluid – I can lead, hold, demand, and catch. I especially love regular sessions where we develop a deep D/s dynamic together. With each meeting, familiarity, intensity, and devotion grow.
I am a sensual dominus who wants to feel your desire – and your craving for more. It excites me when my paddle transforms your ass into a work of art of red spots. You may proudly present these traces of your devotion to me while my hand sinks deep into you.
“Awaken the animal in you” – this is not a cliché, but my approach to primal play. I want to touch the hidden in you. Not just your body – but what you don’t usually show. It starts with a look, a grip, a tingling under the skin. Maybe we wrestle, maybe I bite you, maybe my body presses you against the wall – but behind it is more than instinct: It’s an invitation to show yourself completely. Without a mask. Without a role.
I love these instinctive moments when lust is not played but lived. When you lie panting beneath me, kneel on all fours before me, or show me your marks – then I know: In this space, we are entirely ourselves.
What defines me is my sensitivity to your pace, my presence in the moment – and the desire to unfold you layer by layer. Give up control. Let yourself go. I’ll catch you – and lead you deeper.

What is BDSM to you?​

For me, dominance and submission are pure tension – an electric play of lust, control, and devotion. It’s about more than power: It’s about the conscious exchange of this power. About the crackle when you give me your control – and I take it over enjoyably, demandingly, sometimes mercilessly.
For me, dominance is not a pose, but presence. I read you, feel you, control your desire. I challenge you, lead you to your edge – and sometimes beyond. I want your gaze when you wait, obey, tremble. When you feel that I’m holding you – even as I open you up.
Submission to me is not about subordination – it’s an act of strength. It takes courage to truly open up, to surrender to me, to enter a state through my hands, my voice, my rules where nothing matters except the moment.
D/s in play is for me a dynamic rush – sometimes hard, sometimes tender, sometimes mercilessly playful. I love controlling your reactions: a targeted command, a sudden strike, a deep penetration into body or mind. Pleasure becomes a tool, a weapon, a reward.
It’s not about rigid obedience. It’s about dedication with attitude, about curiosity, about letting go into a game that excites, provokes, and transforms you.
I play with you because I see you. And because I want you to feel yourself – more intensely, more clearly, more authentically than usual.

What do you love about SM?​

For me, SM is pure empowerment. I live what is still considered taboo in society and thus break conventions. Through SM, I can be more myself and create a balance in my stressful everyday life. There are countless ways in which I can experience and give pleasure.
SM has opened up completely new possibilities for me to see and use my body. As a trans man, which is often equated with FTM (female to male), I have redefined eroticism, desire, and passion for myself. SM was and is an enrichment that opens up new levels of lust and excitement. Being trans and practicing professional SM is an absolute rarity that is hard to find. I invite you to surrender to me and embark on this adventure.
Fetishes help me immerse myself in a new world and turn what happens in my head into reality. Fetish means excitement, nervousness, the tingling when what has long been only in my head finally happens. Through fetishes, I get to know myself better and give myself the gift of being able to be completely myself.
I love living out contrasts: strength and vulnerability. Dominance and surrender. Control and loss of control. SM allows me to play with all of this – sensually, wildly, intensely. Here, a form of sexuality emerges that doesn’t come from outside, but grows from within.
SM is not a taboo for me. It’s a tool, an expression, an art form. And perhaps above all: a place where I am completely myself – and can show you exactly that.
Especially in role-play, I can forget the world outside for a moment and completely surrender to my new role. I want to offer you this space too: A safe framework in which you can see yourself in a completely different light, discover new sides of yourself, and then step out into the world with much more self-confidence.
Have you always wanted a priest to show you how your sins can be atoned for? With my paddle and strict hand, you will be freed from all your acts of repentance. Do you want to be driven through the room by a cowboy? I hope you can gallop. If not, I hope you don’t have a problem with my riding crop.

How did you start and what has changed since?

What began as personal curiosity has today become a profession, a passion, and an attitude. For many years, I have been moving in the world of BDSM, kink, and consciously lived sexuality – initially as an explorer, then as a guide, today as a professional with experience, presence, and depth.
What has changed? I’ve delved deeper – into the diversity of (a)sexualities, into bodies, desires, and dynamics that lie beyond normative ideas. I’ve learned to listen, to feel, and to hold spaces – for lust, shame, play, pain, transformation.
Today, I work as a coach at BDSM Studio LUX, hold workshops and lectures on kinky topics and somatic sexuality – always with the aim of bringing people into contact with themselves and their pleasure.
My tools have evolved over the years. In addition to classic BDSM and D/s, I incorporate elements from Sexological Bodywork – for an even more conscious, physically anchored experience that goes beyond mere play.
I accompany people on sensual journeys, in intense sessions, and deep self-exploration. In doing so, one thing has become clear to me: BDSM is not a fringe topic. It’s a space where identity, power, physicality, and intimacy come together in a way that often touches more than words ever could.

What do you expect from your play partners?​

I expect transparency, attention, and devotion from my play partners. Those who truly open themselves up feel seen and guided—and are rewarded with intense pleasure, sensual pain, and deep intimacy.

How can one arrange an appointment with you? When are you available?​

I prefer to be contacted by email – with a few words about your ideas, desires, taboos, your desired session duration as well as specific appointment suggestions. The clearer you are, the better I can assess whether we are a good match.
If the conditions are right and I choose you for a session, we will arrange a suitable date together.
A non-refundable deposit of €50 is required for a binding booking. The session is considered confirmed after receipt of payment.
In very feminine fashion Darius remains focused on emotions, deep experiences and self reflection. Her writing contains many hyphens, but it doesn't appear AI generated. That's just how these gender academics are. They speak in a very artificial way all the time.
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Additionally Darius also has her own website/Archive where she plies her trade of whatever "Sexological Bodywork" actually is.

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She also takes part in sex positive workshops to explore ones body.

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This workshop was part of Stretch Festival/Archive, "a weekend festival that centers and celebrates the diversity of queer masculinities."

In this sensual and mindful workshop, we explore the body as a landscape of perception. After a shared undressing ritual, we invite you on a meditative journey in partner work — with a special focus on gentle, external touch around the anus. Other areas of the body may also be included. Nudity is possible but not required. Slowness is explicitly welcomed: through conscious touch, breath, and presence, a space for deceleration, intimacy, and new sensations is created. You always decide what feels right and safe for you.
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One can only hope that none of the masculine queers sailed past their stretch goals.

To give you an idea on what the rest of Stretch festival must be like, look here.
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Of course, Darius is also on bluesky where he posts advertisements like this.
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@Eva Braun
What's up? Love how your husband parodied my movie.

No greenscreen in that church, I am afraid.
 
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there are less people in all of Estonia than in Manhattan and the capital Tallinn
If that is the outdoor gym I think it is, I have worked out there, (my most hungover workout ever), but that is not important right now, what is funny is that on the other side of the park is Suur-Amerikan tn (greater america road) and after that comes the area Uus maailm (the new world), so we know where she gets her influences.
Please some Estonian correct me, vabandust kui eksin.
 

If that is the outdoor gym I think it is, I have worked out there, (my most hungover workout ever), but that is not important right now, what is funny is that on the other side of the park is Suur-Amerikan tn (greater america road) and after that comes the area Uus maailm (the new world), so we know where she gets her influences.
Please some Estonian correct me, vabandust kui eksin.
Estonia kinda reminds me of the Wild and Crazy Guys from SNL


Beloved singers Anne Veski and Koit Toome have found time to work on a song together, which is also their first song together, despite their busy concert schedule. Both Koidu and Anne are in the Christmas spirit and their evenings are full of performances: “We have been singing Christmas songs with Reigo Tamm all over Estonia for some time now, the concerts are going well and the people are happy,” shares Toome. “We make people happy at various parties, fortunately the Estonian people are still in the party mood and every day is full of work,” Veski rejoices. Why the first joint song was born only now and what Koit is like between the studio walls, was revealed in the morning program of Radio Elmar.

Anne and Koit have shared the stage a lot over the years, but their first joint song “Pole vaja muud” was only recorded recently. “Last summer, we met Anne backstage at a performance and she said I could write us a song,” recalls Koit. When writing the song, Koit assumed that both she and Anne would enjoy singing it and that it would also be suitable for Anne’s big concert in March. “You can’t get this song out of your head after the first listen and people won’t leave the dance floor,” the musicians say in unison.

You can find out what Koit Toome is like behind the studio walls, according to Anne Veski, here:

Estonian Radio
 
Meet tedisnotsfw. She is a 22 year old FtM and probably the only Estonian thing most of you have heard from since you stopped playing Hearts of Iron.
I spent way too much time reading that as Tedi Snot SFW and Tedi Snots FW, and wondered where her mucus fetish fit among her other fetishes for clowns, balloons, and sex in videostore porn rooms.
 
NB: This happened in 2022 but it is in court now. Pics of attackers but not the victim at link.

Archive.

5 foot tall lil' pooner goes to male psychiatric ward, is immediately (and I do mean immediately) raped by two big black men. But don't worry, she's still being he-him'd in court!

Woman identifying as a man is 'raped in all-male psychiatric hospital ward', court hears​

A transgender man was raped within an hour of being admitted to an all-male ward of a secure psychiatric NHS hospital, a court heard.
The biological female was earmarked immediately by other patients, with one alleged attacker shouting 'no Adam's apple, no Adam's apple,' prosecutors said.
The alleged victim went into a side room to avoid the men asking, 'Are you a girl?' but was followed by Luther Badejo and Davointe Thomas.
Six-foot and heavily built Thomas, 25, then blocked a doorway, pushed the alleged victim into a cupboard, forced their trousers down and raped them, jurors heard.
The five-foot-tall complainant then fled to their room before heading to the television area, where they were followed once again by Thomas and Badejo, prosecutors said.
Badejo, 29, 'kept a lookout' while Thomas pushed them onto a sofa and raped them again, Kate Bex KC, prosecuting, told Inner London Crown Court.
Badejo is jointly charged on this count for allegedly acting as Thomas's accomplice.
The attacks allegedly took place on the Eden Ward secure psychiatric unit of Lambeth Hospital in south London on April 12, 2022.
'The fact that (the complainant) is biologically female with female anatomy, if it was appropriate to transfer him to a male ward at all, the hospital ought to have provided one-to-one monitoring, but this did not happen as a result of staff shortages,' Ms Bex told the jury.'
 
5 foot tall lil' pooner goes to male psychiatric ward, is immediately (and I do mean immediately) raped by two big black men. But don't worry, she's still being he-him'd in court!
this feels like a humiliation ritual and a social experiment rolled into one. some kind of "see I can pa..." FAFO moment.
 
this feels like a humiliation ritual and a social experiment rolled into one. some kind of "see I can pa..." FAFO moment.
The people that put her in with her rapists are hopefully only apathetic and not outright malicious. Any mental health care professional surely knows that closed mental facilities are sex separated for very good reasons. 20 years ago a pooner would have had to work very hard against peoples natural inclinations to get put in with the men. After years of activism and state-sponsored LGBT lobbying however, ignoring the real life consequences of make-believe-genders has become the norm. The health workers that processed this pooner would have had to go against the system to get her send to the female wing.

What this means is that many institutions have been switched from following reality to accepting gender delusions. Instead of resisting it, the gears of the system are now turning to treat transpeople as they want to be treated, consequences be damned. It's going to take effort to overcome the systems resistance to change. It will take lobbying to undo the damages.
 
What this means is that many institutions have been switched from following reality to accepting gender delusions. Instead of resisting it, the gears of the system are now turning to treat transpeople as they want to be treated, consequences be damned. It's going to take effort to overcome the systems resistance to change. It will take lobbying to undo the damages.
I hope it happens soon, because even if I enjoy a good FAFO story I cant condone rape under any circumstances, she should have NEVER been put in the men's wing. If I was the warden/staff the only thing I would allow her to do was to use a female bathroom that was made to look like a men's bathroom, but that's only if I cared enough to support her delusion.
 
Fake gamer girl: a poon who has made being a gamer an intrinsic part of her identity is bowled over when a random Redditor believes she's a "noob" because she doesn't understand how GameCubes work, and this is so distressing that she can hardly type coherently due to the raging "dysphoria" it induces in her. Sometimes I envy troons 'n' poons for the simplicity of their problems... must be a pretty charmed existence!
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dysphoria about not being a real gamer

i've internalised that i must be a gamer (or similar trope: skater, stoner, olderbrothercorce). and i must be niche and early 2000s etc. ive made that my identity
please do NOT respond with "don't care so much about what other peoples opinions" becaues that personality trait of mine gives me dysphoria
and i am SO dysphoric about this
im feeling dysphoric right now
I make being a gamer part of my identity, but i dont do it foten because i cant afford it
(the only console i have that woks i only have 1 game for)
Anyway
im SO dysphoric
Someone on r/gamecube thinks i am a noob for not knowing why gamecube would read discs
they called me a noob for not knowing this

Sounds like the capacitors for your disc drive are dying. If you leave the console on for a few minutes, it should be able to read a disc. If it doesn’t, then the capacitors are either fully dead or it’s the laser itself.
TiF-oid Mary: a FTM with a preference for XY chromosomes is having difficulty describing her orientation without sounding like a chaser - but what's truly puzzling is that everyone who dates her seems to go on to transition themselves, which implies that there's definitely something about Mary over here that leads others astray from the garden path. I wonder if in a past life she was a clever, sneaky snake that had an affinity for appletrees...
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Trans man confused about sexuality, seeking input (especially from trans women)

TL;DR Does it make me bisexual if I'm attracted to anyone but cis women? Is there some other term for that? Trans women, would you feel comfortable dating a trans man who isn't attracted to cis women, or would that feel invalidating?
(Flagged NSFW for vague discussion of sexual attraction, but I don't go into much detail)
I'm a 22yo trans man, and I've identified as gay for quite a while. Every once in a while I question if I'm bi, but it always ends in me deciding to just keep calling myself gay until I know for sure. I'm questioning it again so I figure it might help to hear others' perspectives.
First off, I can find any kind of body attractive. Testosterone or estrogen dominant, whatever genitals, etc. Bodies just aren't inherently gendered to me, but my attraction to them is, if that makes sense? Like, I could be attracted to boobs on a trans man, and indifferent about identical boobs on a cis woman because I'm not really into cis women. It's not just about how a body looks, it's also about whose body it is. (Possibly related, I might be demisexual but idk)
I've never felt attracted to a cis woman before, nor do I have any desire to be in a relationship with one. But I can absolutely see myself in a relationship with a trans woman, so "gay" isn't fully accurate. It's not that I see trans women as a separate gender from cis women! They're all women to me. I just feel MUCH more compelled by the idea of a woman who shares in my trans experience. There's just something especially beautiful and intimate about being with a fellow trans person, it creates a feeling of mutual understanding that I've never really gotten from a relationship with a cis person.
To make all this even more confusing, almost everyone I've ever dated transitioned after dating me. Before realizing I was trans, I identified as lesbian and all three of the "cis women" I dated are now trans men, and in hindsight, I was 100% attracted to them as men all along, never as women. After transitioning, I dated a "cis man" and it was wonderful, completely unlike any past relationship I'd had with a man. At the time, I thought this was because it was my first post-transition (ie. gay) relationship. But she realized she was a trans woman shortly after we broke up, and I realized that our relationship had felt different because I had always been attracted to her as a woman. So idk what to make of all that, lol
It's really hard to say "I like men and trans women" without just sounding like a chaser. When a cis man hits on me and I find out he exclusively dates cis women and trans men, it makes me feel gross and invalidated, like he's attracted to me as my AGAB rather than as a man. So I understand how that feels, and I'd NEVER want to make someone else feel that way.
If anyone relates to this or has any other advice I'd love to hear it, I'm very lost
Tumor has it: when a CT scan reveals a shadow in the pituitary area of a FTM's brain, rather than fear what lurks in the recesses deep within her head, she worries instead about the possibility that her providers will bar her from taking anymore prettyboy yaoijuice so that they can treat a literal fucking brain tumor that may be gestating in her skull. Priorities!
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Will my clinic stop providing me care, if they suspect I have a brain tumor?

My CT showed a shadow in the pituitary area of my brain. Endocrinologist suspects a tumor, scheduled an MRI to confirm.
He also made me give up information of my LGBT clinic to pull the blood test records, even though I recently did complete bloodwork for the hormone panel with my PCP, there was no reason for him to ask me. (By the way all of my endocrine hormones are normal).
I'm worried that when my endocrinologist and the clinic will go into contact, my clinic will refuse me care... I'm scared.

Has anyone else had experience similar to mine?
In another shocking display of anatomical apathy, a young dood prides herself on her ignorance about her own biology, finding that her refusal to understand herself gives her shocks of "euphoria," though she admits her lack of knowledge may come back to bite her when she begins poisoning herself. Tragically, due to the state of general understanding about the female body, she is not alone - not by a longshot. In fact, one poster reports that "Maybe once I start T and my anatomy is less female things will change (hopefully) but honestly I’d rather see Bloody Mary in the mirror than myself," while another writes "ik all the comments are saying to learn but idk if anything could convince me to do that, id rather die." What a dire state of affairs!
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Is it common/normal to be completely unfamiliar with downstairs?

This is quite embarrassing but I’m completely unfamiliar with that region. I knew I was trans from early teens so I never looked or ever gave that area attention so actually have no idea where anything is. I’ve also been fully asexual with myself too… I was just wondering if this is normal/common because I don’t particularly want to be familiar and it gives me euphoria not knowing anything but it’s probably not healthy especially when I end up starting T. Anyone else experience the same?
The Herbbit: a pixie that stands at the microscopic height of 4'11" has concerns that she will never be taken seriously as a man at her height as even true and honest men around her are mocked for their short statures - despite the fact that they still tower over her. But have no fear, for the League of Leprechauns is here, eager to reassure our misfit midget that they are treated with complete and total respect as short men.
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Shorter guys: Do any of you genuinely pass + not get ridiculed?

I'm asking this to people who are actually short, below 5'5" or so. I'm 4'11". The last person I've met who was shorter than me was a classmate in middle school. Obviously he wasn't done growing yet. Besides that guy, I haven't even seen girls shorter than me. I don't think it's possible for someone like me to have a normal life at this height. I despise anything feminine, but I am pushed violently into that box in fear of just how depressing everything will be otherwise, or straight-up infantilized and humiliated the moment I take up space for myself. My height is a constant target for jokes, even now while I'm Pre-T and stuck in a female role. I also see how the people around me, even teenagers, treat short men (violently, systematically making fun of a teacher's height behind his back, for example. Whenever they talk about him, it's always and only about his height. "midget", "hobbit", "little guy", "little buddy" and I'm right here...), and I feel nauseous because these men are still taller than me. So, here's the question. Do any of you guys, at short heights similar to mine, genuinely pass? Not just people remembering your pronouns and being miraculously nice enough to respect them. Passing as a cis man without being made fun of at the first chance.
[–]Elliot-The-Archer
Yes I do pass (for the most part) and am not ridiculed. I pass for a younger guy than I am and maybe 1/100 times someone will be confused about my gender before hearing my voice. Nobody thinks I’m trans though as far as I can tell after I speak, so I can be stealth.

Well, that's nice. Is your height close to mine, or are you taller?​
5' 1''

[–]Genderqueerfrog
That shit matters way less when you’re not in high school. I’m your height and no one gives me shit for it. I pass most of the time

[–]Thecontaminatedbrain
4'9" pass and no one makes fun of me for my height. Honestly it's all in your head and even if people do make fun of you, that says a lot about them and not about you.

[–]IcedOtto
Height doesn’t really affect passing much. Your looks, style, and mannerisms however do. No one would ever say Danny Da Vito, Kevin Hart, Seth Green and Peter Dinklage don’t look like men.

[–]ND8586
When you're a kid people make fun of literally anything and everything. When you're an adult that shit matters so much less.
I'm a bit less than 5" 4. There are a few (I assume cis) guys at work who are my height or shorter. One guy is noticeably a lot shorter. It's just not a big deal, nobody cares.
FWIW I was at the gym today with my buddy, 5" 9. I have known him for 14 years. We were sharing a machine and he was completely speechless that I had to alter it to a different height because I was shorter than him. He had always assumed that we were roughly the same height. Maybe height is something that people perceive rather than physically measure.

[–]thegreatfrontholio
I'm 5'4" and presumed cis. I don't get ridiculed.
That being said, guys do socially rag on each other about all kinds of shit, as friendly banter, in a way that women do not. It's worth developing a sense of humor about it. I get teased in a friendly way by my work buddies for being short, bald, and having an American accent. I get them right back. And we all make fun of each other for making mistakes in the national language and for eating too much. It isn't how I relate with my queer friends but it's good to get a sense of when the boys are joshing you in a spirit of friendship as opposed to purposely being dicks to you.

[–]Kermit1420
5'2, pre-t, and regularly pass. I don't get ridiculed but people do think I am very young, lol.

Yeah, being mistaken for a young boy seems to be a universal problem for trans guys.

[–]phidippusregius
I'm 163 cm. And I live in the Netherlands. Where the average man is 184 cm. :')
I can assure you that I not only pass as a man, but people genuinely don't understand at first why I volunteer for a trans organisation. I literally have to spell out for people that I'm a trans man, and even then have to process what's going on.
Currently I'm on a 5.5 year passing/non-misgendering streak.
OP, do you happen to be in high school? Because I promise you that once you're an adult and enter the workplace (uni too, if you're lucky with your uni) this sort of stuff genuinely won't matter anymore. Kids will cling onto anything that's even remotely 'different' and use it as an excuse to bully and demean you. Adults are far more accepting of the fact that people come in all shapes and sizes.

[–]golgothasgodhead
I'm 5'0 (152 cm) and I pass 100%. I've been on T for 9 years though. You'll get there
I never get ridiculed, but friends sometimes make lighthearted jokes, which is fine with me ;)

[–]Plenty-Design2641
Im 4'11" and I pass very well. Id pass about 50/50 before starting T but since starting its all the time. And ive inly done T i have a small chest but havent gotten any surgery

[–]dysphoric_cersei
5’2”. I pass and have never been ridiculed for my height.

[–]Anime_Theo
Im 5'2''. Im fine and pass. Most of my colleagues were surprised i was trans when i told them.

[–]Infinite-Sky4328
5’2” and stealth. Some of my guy friends will occasionally rib me about my height (if there’s a good joke opportunity), but like, just in the way guys do. It’s not at all mean-spirited; we’re all friends laughing with each other, and I give it as good as I take it with the jokes.

[–]No_Leather6310
I have two cis male friends who are 5 foot 2 and they pass just fine. I passed and was stealth when I was 5’3” and pre t though that was late high school, I’m 5’5” now

[–]Extra-Bottle-1910
I’m 5’3 and pass as cis and my height isn’t really a problem outside of buying pants lol. I work as a server, am a (university) student, and work in a research lab so I have exposure to a lot of people in a lot of contexts and in all of them I’m taken seriously as an adult man. When I was younger it was sometimes a point of being made fun of but as an adult it’s not a problem, at this point me and my close friends are the only people who make jokes about my height.

[–]OkNetwork6592
my bf (FTM, 5’2 and 21) passes in public. i think all his facial piercings and his flamboyant personality kinda gives him away, but most people don’t assume he’s trans unless he outright says it. he’s been on T for nearly 5 years. as a 24 year old 5’0 trans guy who’s only been on T for 2 months, i see my future and it’s bright.
also, i know several cis men who are around my height and no one questions them at all. i think it’s mostly confidence, mannerisms, and voice tbh.
lemme clarify: by “gives him away”, i mean that he’s more likely to be clocked by someone actively paying attention to every little thing he does. but like, nobody pays attention to other people that much, so he passes for the most part.

[–]Persassy60
5'3, I pass as a cis guy 100% of the time now that my voice has dropped. Before my voice dropped, it was about 80% of the time because I just have an androgynous body type
I know another genderqueer person who is 4'8 who passes as whatever gender that fits their fancy that day, guy, girl, or inbetween
I also knew 2 guys in high school that were both under 5 foot that passed about 70% of the time. Them being short dudes was never discussed because we had a cis dude that was 4'0, so they didn't seem strange/feminine at all by comparison

[–]mouseinthefridge
5’3, 6 months on T and pass most of the time no questions asked. I see lots of grown men around my height

[–]CocoaBagelPuffs
I’m 4’11, I pass 100% of the time.
I got teased more for being short as a girl than I do now. But I’m also almost 30.
People mature a lot after school.

[–]Substantial-Ad-5467
I completely pass, I literally have no issue with passing to the point where I can just go stealth without any issues. I consider myself very lucky because nobody ever can tell I'm trans, I just get honored the short king nominations despite having a crappy mustache and pathetic chin hair. People just assume I shave weekly because of sensory issues or something of that sort

[–]colesense
I’m 4’7 and stealth. I don’t get ridiculed for my height at all unless I have the bad luck of walking past a HS when they let out. And I’m in my 30s I don’t care much about the immature mocking of children lol
Honestly I’ve found it very easy to manage being short for the most part. Anyone who would judge someone for their height isn’t someone I want to be acquainted with anyway.

[–]16bitstream
4'10" dude here, I even have long hair. I pass no problem and get my age guessed correctly frequently. It's all about how you carry yourself. I'm known to everyone as the short guy, but it is what it is and it's water off a duck's back.

[–]jacetbaum
Yes, I am 4’11 too and a teacher. I pass 100%. I don’t have problems from anyone directly, although i sometimes get the occasional double take. I have a coworker who calls me little guy, so of course i call him big guy. (He IS a huge guy). We joke about it and it’s fun. You gotta take your height in stride the best you can, otherwise it will eat you alive. I know how much it sucks, especially being pre t. Just hang in there!

[–]riombv
Hey! I’m 4’11 and pass completely. It is possible, short guys exist:)
With each passing month, tensions between troons 'n' poons continue to rise, though they are only permitted to utter any sort of resentment in the privacy of their own spaces. Still, I wonder if we may see a major political split between them in the coming years as trannies continue to prioritize only "the dolls" while leaving these wannabe G.I. Joes in the lurch...
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How do I not get resentful over the avalanche of support transfemme people get???

I'm on a couple different subs that are not outright hostile to transmasc people. But there's next to NOTHING for/about us. How do I not get resentful over people saying how "boy puberty ruined beautiful women" when AFAB puberty ruined MY body? How do I not feel grossed out when I see a post that says "just keep having sex you'll get pregnant wink wink" when pregnancy has been a phobia-level fear of mine since childhood? How do I not want to sit here and rip my face off when I read "oh you want a period? See you're woman mark 2, woman mark 1 was defective for bleeding and being gross"
im tired.
Finally, a bearded lady gets her ass chapped when she realizes people have a higher tolerance for shady information around parenting than they do for the ideological capture of linguistics in favor of the troon menace. Given that she herself teaches young kids and tells them lines such as "sometimes boys look like girls and girls look like boys, and that's just the way it is," I'm not sure she's in a position to be critiquing the quality of information provided by others.
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Yeah, that's the problem

I'm finishing up my degree this semester. When I'm done, I'll be certified to teach children from birth to age 8. I saw a video of this woman who called herself a "holistic birth coach." She was using junk science and perpetuating lies about childbirth and infant care. It was pure fear-mongering, parent-shaming trash. Well, I made the mistake of looking at the comments. About half the comments were supportive. The other half were angry comments. Not because she was peddling bullshit, but because she used the phrase, "mothers and birthers." Commenters were up in arms talking about how only mothers can give birth and complaining about political correctness.
These mfers really said, "I can excuse misinformation but I draw the line at inclusive language."
 
i have lost count of how many times i've cum to the sound of bike horn honking or silly laughs.
The fuck is up with these clownfucker John Wayne Gacy wannabe pooners on Fetlife

with a special focus on gentle, external touch around the anus.
The phrase “a meditative anal touch ritual” is almost parody writing at its finest. Too bad it’s serious.
 
Im 4'11" and I pass very well

Okay, had a few & "we represent the Lollypop guild" had me, the misses & her younger brother on the FLOOR tonite. :lit: the FLOOR.

I read all the "I am 2 feet tall but I totally pass! Peter Dinklage!" posts out loud and thought my bro in law would die. He's never heard any of that stuff before.

Epic Saturday nite entertainment, much appreciated @MagicPickle
 
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