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Was there a tranny sleeper cell activation or something? Why are the troons exposing their true thoughts so openly recently? There's this on Twitter, and there's the pedo wars on Tumblr right now that are putting people on the cusp of peaking.
My guess is that since a lot of "allies" are backing out and since a lot of these people trooned out in Covid due to porn addiction, they are reaching the end and simply feel comfortable enough to drop the act since they subconsciously know their days are limited.
Funny how they keep mentioning trans men, but these people have a history of being nice toward cis men, not chasers but "allies" who like the same interests they do. But trans men? Oh these poor troons, always being preyed on by anyone born female!
 
This is beauty parlor. It may come as a great surprise to you that many of the women here have favorable views on abortion and killing tard babies. If there were a pre-natal test for autism, this forum would be the first to get their pregnancies checked for it. You'd feel likewise if you ever saw the aftermath of parents forced to raise "special needs" babies and how it ruins their lives and fucks up any other kids they may have.
I believe very strongly that an abortion is a murder. Sometimes murder is the ethical option however, or at least hygienic in a biological sense. Almost everyone alive has thought "We should just kill XYZ so we could all be better off." There are groups of people for who this statement is true. Kill all robbers and as a natural consequence things like gambling and drug related abuse, domestic and sexual violence will take a significant drop, because if you kill robbers you also kill a wife beater, statistically. It's murder, and we should rightfully mourn that the world is cold and hard and the best choices we can make are cruel, but it would none the less be right to cave the chest cavities of every last home invader in.

There are plenty of people who could be helped and goals that could be achieved if society was not also funding dead ends so that they could survive into early infancy or so that they will grow up to be a burden on a family. One that drags them down like a millstone into the depths of poverty so that their organs can be placed back inside their tragically miswrought bodies or give their spine the pretence of rigidity so that they can wheeze another five or ten years. It is murder. Murder is bad. As society grows richer so too should the limit on who can be murdered grow more constrained. None the less there are subsets of our population who, through being murdered, will achieve more than they ever could have in their lives.

Saying 'Abortions are murder' is factually true, but almost exclusively used as a means to shut down the conversation with a truism. Life's unfair: would be another excellent example. There is no conversational progress made by stating this. You just look like a retard 9/10 times. People who would die if someone doesn't hook them up to a feeding tube 3x a day for 72 years probably should die. Save those resources for someone who was worthwhile, did what they were called to do, and was robbed of what they could have done to the misfortune of those who love them. Veto, Greer, and creatures like them, will one day be something we can diagnose. Eugenics are something that go wrong when people do it for the purpose of being vindictive and evil, not when you hand people the tools to make their own offspring better. We can hum and haw over whether it is wrong to do so, but the world is cruel and unkind: If you will not, your enemies will, and soon you and your high morals will not exist at all. We need more good children, not just more children. Good children need good mothers and fathers, rather than beleaguered tax cattle struggling to prop up a system with an impossible goal, kept barely afloat by mass introduction of alternative tax cattle populations.
 
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It seems trans women are turning against trans men, or some kind of discourse is going on with them? Either way it's something I've wondered about a lot because it does seem that there's something between trans women and trans men that makes them distrust eachother. How could you really be fine knowing there's a group that's trying to be the gender you're escaping from?
Holy mother of mental gymnastics Batman!

But seriously I've pondered the same thing for many years now, would not their own views of their respective biological sex be "dysphoria inducing" for each other to constantly hear/read in their hugboxes that they always barricade themselves in? It seems they weren't allowed to say anything to fellow transies about it and completely projected all hatred towards the dreaded cissies for all their problems for many years but I see a ton of resentment towards their own people slipping through the cracks these days.
 
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Interesting Instagram reel, mostly for how trans mascs have gathered under it
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Nothing about this involves or implies being male???
 
The swarthy pooners are mad again.
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This makes me MATI. Then just fucking leave yourself? Or if it's because she can't then what is she complaining about? That strangers who could leave chose to prioritize their own lives instead of hers out of "loyalty"? Strangers don't own you shit.

Oh boo fucking woo, you couldn't get out the burning building therefore anyone else getting out a burning building is an asshole for not staying out of "solidarity" with you?

Only thing she's right about is that it would probably be brown people going to camps before white people.
 
Non-binary_prince, notorious more to those who haunt the SRS thread than others, has returned to Reddit with a sordid, lustful tale of shoving her hand up the loosened asshole of a pervert like she was digging around for change in a purse. Try not to climax on the spot from reading this one! (Or throw up.)
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Fisting, the upside of small hands

Major nsfw here
I was having a hard time hooking up with people using my prosthetic (still only done that twice tbh) but I was curious about fisting because I really liked fingering the guy I got to top, but I have small hands with short fingers so he wanted my peen. Not, not small hands, compact.
I’ve never liked having small hands, esp with ASL and close up magic, but you know what small, I mean compact hands are good for: fisting. and found someone a few weeks ago who let me try. It was very cool, but kinda rushed. Had this 6’2”, mustached trucker looking guy bent over a patio chair and it did go well, but I made the guy bleed and it was muddy. I did a bunch of research and talked to people before I tried again.As soon as I added “ff” to my tags and “fisting top” to my bio, more dudes were reaching out to me. I added a picture of my hand holding a bic lighter to my album, like it was a shampoo bottle. Now I can’t open Grindr outside of my hometown without a very needy fisting bottom asking me what I’m doing later.
I had a date with the second guy I fisted in the city tonight, I stg he can sense when I’m the city because he catches me when it’s not convenient for both of us. Well, holiday shit happened and he had to cancel. Luckily, Mustache Trucker, not his real name, has been consistently after me even tho I was very sure I hurt him. But this time I was ready: lube, veterinary livestock gloves, rags, towels. I honestly can’t describe how affirming it is to fist someone.
Yes, I am t e r r i f i e d of hurting him and very much more bravado than true confidence, but that feels normal for someone who is new to topping. I had him on his back, legs on my shoulders, and opened him up. He was so blissed out, moaning and encouraging me; I have a freckle about halfway up my wrist and I saw it disappear inside this man’s body.
I know it will be a long time before I have phallo and can get my dick in someone, but holy fuck this feels damn close, I’m sure of it! He was 1,000° inside, soft but tight, something between putting your fingers in wet plaster and fitting into Spanx
, but… idk, hot.
He was really good about asking for what he needed and it was going amazingly. At one point I got the rhythm and speed just right, kinda rocking my hips into him behind my arm, and his eyes literally rolled back. While I was staring down into his face, his whole body contracted around my wrist while he moaned in time with my hips and
I came, yall. Like, I creamed my shorts. My jockstrap is wet because I came so hard while I was inside him. Only thing was, I lost my cadence and gasped when I came and he asked what happened and when I told him he was like “okay, cool, I’ll head out since the top finished.” And I let him know that I very much could keep going.
I feel like singing “I Just Had Sexl except it’s a “a man let me put my fist inside him”. I’ve been to a few leather events and there very much is a demand for little guys with small hands willingly to put them in another man’s ass! Mustache just texted me to “just shove and force it down. I can take it deeper, just gotta force it down.” Bro, calm down, my wrist is still warm from your hole squeezing around me when I came!
A pooner finds a pooner in a potty. This post is funny because for some reason the commenters believe 'pooner' to be an inside joke among those of the gender clade and not routine terminology for those of us who laugh at them and they hope that this label does not become mainstream. I can't speak for the rest of you, but I'm doing my part!
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Nothing like my yaois: at long last, TiFs endure the wretched cisgender fetishization they keep harping on about when a pigshit bisexual man shows up to promote his garbage erotica in which a FTM tops a biological male. However, despite their cries for more trans top representation, the doodz are not pleased with how he went about writing this - though their displeasure falls upon deaf, gooning ears. (The fic itself is just bog standard disgusting porn, so the real entertainment is to be found in the malding, but if you want to read it for yourself you can read it here.)
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[–]gabaghoule
A few thing:
  • As someone already mentioned, the idea that it's society's pressure that push trans people to get srs is inaccurate, people go through this for themselves not because of transphobia (definitely not the majority at least)
  • You might want to do some research on bottom surgery for trans men because that was slightly confusing (there's phalloplasty and metoidioplasty)
  • That's more personal but I don't think "eating out" should be the used term for oral performed on trans men, sucking is likely more accurate (as you used later in the text btw)
  • Speaking of oral sex, I know it's fantasy so I'm not hang up on that because it's rarely part of it but it would probably be better to include some sort of consent when it comes to second hole stuff because it's definitely not a given that a trans man would be comfortable with that (I know it's not sex ed but yk just a thought)
  • Mr X is sometimes referred to as Mr Z, idk if it's intentional but if it's not you might want to correct the tipos
All of this being said, that was nice to read something different that included a trans man as a top so I can only encourage you to write more :)
Edit: Seeing OP's attitude, I don't wish to encourage him anymore

I'm not going to respond to the overly negative comment below because this one touches on the issue, but I need to say that I have never been intimate with a trans guy who has had bottom surgery. So that's never been a thing for me. I wrote this based off personal fantasies & what I've been reading about on blogs and so forth and pictures I've seen. And of course that's part of why I placed the story in an alternate universe because in this one a trans man like that and a cis man like myself would never be having those kinds of conversations. It just doesn't happen here for reasons we are all familiar with. And this lack of any possibility of communication between ppl is why many cisgender people don't know anything about how trans people live or have sex or what their bodies are like etc etc.​
I don’t think it’s fair to call what I said “overly negative”, and I think your refusal to engage with any feedback that isn’t praise (as well as tone policing the minority group you are not a part of but writing erotica about) is incredibly questionable. Are you actually interested in engaging with trans men in good faith, or did you post this here only in the interest of being praised?​
Listen buddy, I don't care what you think. Go away I wasn't commenting to you.​
1) I am not your buddy​
2) Writing inaccurate smut about a minority you are not part of, inviting feedback from that group, tone policing members of that group for honest feedback behind their back, and then getting mad when said member says you are being unfair is really disgusting, shameful behaviour, actually.

[–]saobhaidhe
Ehhhh, ngl I really do not like the implication mid way through that bottom surgery would become less common with decreased transphobia. I think it’s a fundamental misunderstanding of why people get it and the internal process it takes to pursue lower surgery. Coupled with the factual misunderstanding of what the bottom surgery options are that others have commented on, the vibes are off. It’s definitely not the worst or most objectionable “cis guy fantasising about sex with trans men” erotica I’ve read, but it very clearly is not written by somebody who is a trans guy.

[–]Dish_Minimum
Respectfully, you accidentally wrote some very inaccurate and problematic things. Not because youre a bad person or mean, but because you’re trying to speak about people you just don’t know. I’m black too so I think a good analogy that would help you understand is how cringe and frustrating it feels to read black characters written by white authors who never met a black person in their whole lives. Like imagine a white author writing “then he cocoa buttered his cornrow weaves with his Air Jordan whine down.”
You see what I’m saying? Like we both know those are all words associated with some black people, but…like that whole entire sentence don’t make no sense because the author simply didn’t do enough research to understand what he’s writing about.
You have probably experienced that many times. Hearing strange black characters in movies and shows who are obviously written by somebody who does not know black people.
That’s how it feels to read something that is inauthentic and actually has parts that are painfully wrong in a dysphoric way. Again you’re not bad or evil or mean. You’re just accidentally trying to speak on bodies and experiences that you don’t really understand.
And you’re replying so angrily when men try to explain that it is accidentally like white authors writing black characters without knowing black people. Again it’s not because you’re trying to hate on trans men’s. You just didn’t do enough research to understand where you’re going wrong.
The basics are
  • “second hole” is not part of sex unless the man expressly said he wants that before sex.
-“eating out” is bottoms asses or women’s anatomy. Sucking dick is normal language for sucking tdick.
-nobody understands the imaginary medical thing you were trying to say was part of trans men’s genital surgeries. It’s like the example sentence I told you above.
  • trans people get gender alignment surgeries because they feel euphoric about the anatomical corrections. It’s not a political stance. Like if you got a line up on your hair that’s not a political statement. That’s just what you do to look your best and feel good about your body. Or if you get a nose job, it’s to look how you feel most like yourself, not a political stance about African features or self hatred towards your blackness or a statement to the world about your political beliefs.
-when you hear information from the community members and you feel defensive, pause and sit with that information. Do not show up in safe spaces for communities and say hurtful things when someone tells you your writing accidentally is hurtful, contains transphobic parts, and is offensive to some. You and I both know how it is when white people throw fits at being asked to stop saying racist stuff. Please don’t do that to us. Gay trans men are minorities within minorities. We are marginalized enough without experiencing open aggression in our spaces. Many of us are also black men. You’re clapping back at your own people without realizing that it hurts just as much as when white gay men shit in you for advocating for yourself and your own dignity.
Thank you for listening and thank you in advance for apologizing to those you snapped at and disrespected. We can heal each other when we treat each other with dignity and respect.

Thanks for this response. I think part of the issue is I've never been with trans men with bottom surgery. But I don't need ppl leaping to the conclusion that I don't know anything about trans men because I've used terms that THEY personally don't use. I've only topped with trans guys and that's what I know, but I wanted to write about them in a context you don't often see them. The feedback here has been useful for writing about this in the future. I need to highlight though that the trans man experience is very varied and it seems I'm writing about a niche within a niche based on my own experiences. Most of the trans guys I've been around socially have been stealth and there's been no opportunity to discuss anything 🤷🏽‍♂️
I tried to help but you keep doubling down on your thing and trying to pretend you can explain our own community to the men here. Sis, you are the problem. I know you are trying but seriously you are using rvery type of excuse white people use when called out on their racism. I’m telling you point blank as a 45 year old top who has been married for 14 years: you think you’re inventing a genre that nobody talks about, but you don’t realize real trans tops have been writing real gay porn for decades. It is offensive to come to trans space and actually attempt to explain to the baddest bitch here that trans men are varied and your inauthentic story is fine bc you once stayed at a holiday inn. Gwrl you are not getting it: several parts of your story don’t make sense logically because you literally have no idea what you are talking about. And it’s because you don’t listen to real trans voices, consume real trans top erotica, watch real trans top porn, or research real trans top culture. I mean you call the prosthetic a strap and the top doesn’t cum from fucking the boy??? But you wanna argue with us that we don’t know our own ways. Sure Jan.​
You’re still being defensive in the exact same way you were earlier. This is not an apology, and you are still making excuses and centring yourself and your hurt feelings as a cis man. You — as somebody who does not experience gender dysphoria — are seeing fit to explain it to us, as people who actually do experience it, and ignoring what we have to say about the material realities of living under transphobia.​
There is a wealth of available information on bottom surgery. How do you think people are pursuing it find out anything about it? These resources are available, you have just chosen not to seek them out. Hell, even if we’re just talking about writing, here is a 5,000 word guide on writing about phalloplasty. Have you ever even thought to seek these resources out and quietly listen? Or have you only ever considered what you already think you know about us as an outsider to our community?​
If you are not willing to actually listen when trans men criticise your depictions of us, you are not an ally to us. We do not owe you uncritical praise just because you are interested in fucking us. You are fully entitled to write whatever you want, but you are not entitled to positive feedback, and your anger, defensiveness, and disrespect at any pushback demonstrates you have a lot of transphobia you need to unlearn.​
And since a Redditor from the last post was so kind as to give a guide on writing sex with phalloplasties, I've decided to go ahead and include it in this post so you can all know how to write the hottest pooner porn that the world has ever seen. It's a doozy, so I tried my best to format it for readability; apologies if it's still taxing to read anyway.
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A Fic Writer's Guide to Phalloplasty​

Disclaimers
I am one singular post-phalloplasty transmasculine person, and I cannot speak for the opinions of others. I am in community with a lot of post-bottom surgery people, which informs my statements about bodies that are not mine, but I cannot speak for them.
I use anatomical language (e.g. clitoris, vagina, vulva) for clarity, especially given I’m talking about genitals both pre and post reconstruction. This may not be the language you personally use, especially in a sexual context.
This is not intended as a guide for people pursuing bottom surgery. Please seek out other resources, particularly ones that can speak to the experiences of particular surgeons. This guide is only intended to aid people in writing fiction.

Contents​

  • Intro
    • Who am I and why do I care?
    • Why does post-phallo representation matter?
  • What is Phalloplasty?
    • The Basics
    • Pre-Surgery Hair Removal
    • Graft Site Options
    • Optional Procedures
    • Erectile Implants
    • Phalloplasty Size
    • Putting It All Together: What A Post-Phallo Body Could Look Like
  • Sex Post-Phalloplasty
    • Arousal, Sensation, and Orgasm
    • Topping Post-Phalloplasty
    • Bottoming Post-Phalloplasty
    • Non-Penetrative Sex Post-Phalloplasty
    • BDSM/Kink Post-Phalloplasty
  • Social Experiences Post-Phalloplasty
    • Navigating Stigma
    • Navigating Sex & Relationships
    • Visible Scarring
    • Body Modification
    • Underwear

Intro​

Who am I and why do I care?​

I’m kaiju and I’m a post-phalloplasty transmasculine person. I’ve been in fandom since around 2010 (which is also the year I came out as trans), writing fic most of that time across a range of fandoms and psueds/usernames.

I love the new growth of transmasc representation in fandom, but have noticed the vast bulk of this is about non-bottom surgery characters. I appreciate that this is often due to transmasc people who are non/pre-bottom surgery writing about bodies similar to theirs (and I think that's cool and rad!), but do also think there’s a few other factors at play, including ignorance about what post-bottom surgery bodies are like and how they work, as well as general heavy stigma around post-op bodies.

Because of this (and inspired by How To Write Trans Men: A Guide by budgie_smuggled), I thought it might be useful for me to write about my own experiences as a post-phalloplasty person in order to make writers more familiar with what it’s like.

I will give the caveat I am writing based on my own experiences. I am one post-op person with one particular series of surgical experiences, and while I can give overall information on other surgical pathways, I cannot speak to what the experience is like. I particularly cannot speak to the experiences of post-metoidioplasty transmasculine people. (FYI if you are post-meta and want to write a guide like this, please let me know so I can link it!)

Why does post-phallo representation matter?​

This is a question I get quite a lot when I bring up post-phalloplasty representation — why don’t post-op trans men and transmasculine people just read about cis men?

To be clear, plenty of post-op people do this, and I don't fault any post-op trans man or transmasculine person who wants to navigate art and fiction this way. But I personally don’t think this is adequate as a response to the issue of post-op representation. I also think it’s exceptionally dismissive, and honestly would even go so far as to say it’s transphobic to imply that post-op trans people don’t deserve representation as much as non/pre-op trans people.

Additionally, post-phalloplasty penises do differ in terms of function compared to standard issue penises (note I do not say ‘cis penises’ or ‘natal penises’ here, as some cis men also have phalloplasty!). Plenty of erotic material that features cis men with penises involves things post-phalloplasty penises simply cannot do, such as produce sperm/carry a pregnancy risk for their partners and get unassisted erections. I don't feel represented by these depictions, because they're not true to me or my body - it's imo basically the equivalent of asking transmascs who bottom for PiV why they don’t just read cishet erotica.

I also think post-op transmasculine representation is particularly important because there is a huge stigma attached to post-op genitals. Even within the trans community, the language that is often deemed acceptable to use about our bodies draws on and contributes to transphobic rhetoric. I think a lot of this comes from ignorance allowing for misinformation to spread, and the more we as a community properly and accurately represent post-op bodies, the more we can fight this stigma.

On a more selfish note, I don’t think it’s unreasonable for post-op transmasculine people to want to see bodies like ours treated as desirable! Speaking for myself, before I had bottom surgery I had never seen a depiction of post-phalloplasty bodies in erotic art or writing that wasn’t made by me (based on post-phallo sexual partners I’d had). Something I really struggled with post-surgery was actually accepting I could be found sexy by somebody else, and that I wasn’t seen as either ‘not as good as/a stand-in for a cis man’ or ‘having ruined the unique selling point I had’ (despite hating PiV pre-op). I want other post-op men and transmasculine people to get to see themselves as sexy, and I want people who are questioning if they want bottom surgery to not have to graple with the desirability politics that I did and that made it hard for me admit I wanted bottom surgery!

What Is Phalloplasty?​

The Basics​

Tl;dr: what is phalloplasty?
  • Phalloplasty is a kind of genital reconstructive surgery that involves creating a phallus (or penis) from a graft of skin taken from a surgical subject. It was originally created for cisgender men who had experienced loss or severe traumatic damage to their penises, but was later adapted for transmasculine people who wanted to create a penis.
  • ‘Phalloplasty’ technically only refers to the surgery that creates the phallus, and not to any of the other procedures that may be involved in a particular surgical pathway. This includes urethral lengthening (often called UL, which allows for somebody to urinate through their new penis), vaginectomy (which is removal of the vagina), glansplasty (which makes the head of the new penis resemble a standard issue glans more), scrotoplasty (creation of a scrotum), clitoral burial (which 'buries' the original clitoris in the base of the new phallus), or nerve hookup (which helps with sensation in the new penis).
    • Because of this, the term 'vaginal preserving phalloplasty' (which I've seen used a lot more recently) doesn't actually make sense. The correct term would be 'phalloplasty without vaginectomy'
  • Phalloplasty is usually a multi-stage procedure. I was told by my surgeon to expect 3 stages, but this can vary depending on what procedures somebody wants in their surgical pathway. Some surgeons will carry out a hysterectomy (and potentially a bilateral salpingo-oophorectomy (BSO), which removes the fallopian tubes and the ovaries) during phalloplasty, while others require it is carried out prior to phalloplasty.
  • Phalloplasty is not a surgery that only binary, stealth, gender-conforming, straight men who top cis women have! I know non-binary people who’ve had bottom surgery (including one who identifies as a non-binary woman, which I think rules), openly trans people who’ve had bottom surgery, people who are not always/often read as the gender they identify as who have had bottom surgery, GNC people who’ve had bottom surgery, gay and bi and asexual people who’ve had bottom surgery, bottoms who’ve had bottom surgery, and people who’ve had bottom surgery who only sleep with other trans people. I know people who are multiple of these things. There is not one singular type of person who has bottom surgery - we are as diverse as any other group of trans people.

Pre-Surgery Hair Removal​

As well as being multi-stage, phalloplasty often requires pre-surgical preparation. For people who are having their urethra lengthened so they can urinate from their new penis, this involves hair removal, either using laser hair removal, electrolysis, or a combination of the two.

People who are not having UL may choose to have hair removal anyway for aesthetic reasons. However, in the case of people who are having UL, this is treated as medically necessary. Hair regrowth inside the urethra can result in discomfort and infections, and can potentially affect urine flow.

The length of time and number of sessions needed for hair removal can vary, and the graft site will need to be checked by a surgeon. The process of this does vary, but with my surgeon it was checking the graft site was >70% hair free after 12 weeks since hair removal treatment.

Graft Site Options​

The place where a skin graft is taken from can vary, depending on individual anatomy and preference, as well as what techniques are offered by particular surgeons.

The most common graft site is from the forearm. This is called radial artery phalloplasty (RFF). This is the graft site I personally chose, as my surgeon only offered UL with this graft site, although other surgeons may/do offer UL with other graft sites. The main concern people tend to have with this graft site is that it’s very visible and can’t be exposed to the sun, although I haven’t really found I care about the visible scarring (more about this in the ‘The Post-Op Experience’ section).

Antero-lateral thigh phalloplasty (ALT) uses a graft from the thigh. These penises tend on average to be thicker than RFF penises, and some people actually have their penis size reduced ('debulked') after the first stage construction.
Other less common sites include pubic phalloplasty (which uses a flap from the lower body and crotch area), or back skin that’s called the musculocutaneous latissimus dorsi skin flap (MLD).

Regardless of the graft site chosen, the area does scar. Over time and if treated correctly (as little sun exposure as possible in the first couple of years etc), they can fade to being quite faint.

Optional Procedures​

Other procedures involved in phalloplasty can be combined in a number of different ways, although particular surgeons will be more or less happy for particular combinations. In my case, my surgeon was happy to carry out UL without vaginectomy, although many surgeons will not.
  • Glansplasty is also called coronaplasty and creates the glans or ‘head’ of the penis. At the time of writing, all post-glansplasty penises look circumcised. Some people who particularly want the look of an uncircumcised penis may forgo glansplasty and opt for medical tattooing.
  • Urethroplasty involves creating a long neo-urethra inside the penis, and then at a later stage hooking it up to the existing urethra. It is optional, and some people opt not to have it. For some people who produced a lot of fluid pre-op, this fluid can dribble out of the penis post-op, although this isn’t guaranteed.
  • Vaginectomy involves the removal of the vaginal lining and fusion of the vaginal walls. It requires a hysterectomy, and can also be carried out as a stand alone procedure without phalloplasty.
    • My surgeon also offered an alternative to it where there was no longer enough vaginal depth for penetrative sex, but enough that vaginal fluids were still produced and able to be used for grinding/frottage/etc.
    • People who don't have a vaginectomy and do have either UL or scrotoplasty will likely need to dilate during recovery to maintain depth.
  • Scrotoplasty involves the creation of a scrotum from the labia majora, with prosthetic testicles added for shape. One testicle may also be part of a pump system for an erectile implant (more on this later). If somebody doesn't have vaginectomy, the vaginal opening may either be placed behind the balls (where the perinium/taint is) or between them.
  • Clitoral Burial involves placing the original clitoris within the new phallus. It is entirely optional, but does mean that even if sensation isn’t gained in the new phallus, a post-op person can stimulate their buried anatomy through the new penis.
  • Nerve Hookup involves connecting nerves from the graft site and connecting them to nerves in the new penis, allowing for sensation in the newly constructed penis.
  • Hysterectomy & BSO. Hysterectomy is required for vaginectomy and some surgeons will require them even for non-vaginectomy procedures. However, it is possible to not have them and have vaginectomy (although there are some considerations when it comes to implants if somebody wants to become pregnant).
  • Medical tattooing normally takes place a few years after surgery is complete. It involves using pigment to shade and add detail to a post-phalloplasty penis, such as veins.

Erectile Implants​

Post-phalloplasty penises cannot get erect on their own, as they do not have erectile tissue in the way that a standard issue penis does. This also means they are the same side flaccid as they are when erect.

Some people choose not to have an erectile device implant. This could be for a number of reasons — for some people, being able to penetrate with their penis just isn’t a priority, while others may be happy using an external device. Just like the implants used for phalloplasty are also used to treat erectile dysfunction in cis men, trans men and transmasculine people may be happy to use external devices intended for cis men with erectile dysfunction. This can include penis sleeves or sheaths (including fun fantasy dildo style ones), or more medical devices like the Elator. Because an implant is not inserted in the first stage, a lot of people who do want an inserted erectile device may also use them to have sex between stages.

There’s generally two kinds of erectile implants: malleable or inflatable.

Malleable implants are a silicone coated metal cylinder that’s implanted into the penis. It can then be bent into the preferred angle for penetrative sex. These are mechanically very simple so tend to last a long time, although some surgeons won’t use them as the first implant due to risk of tissue erosion when a penis is new. They can also look a bit like a semi-erect penis when bent into a flaccid shape, which some people dislike.

In the case of my surgeon, I mentioned malleable implants were my preferred option. Due to the risk of tissue wear, he advised inserting an inflatable initially, and then replacing it with a malleable implant when my current implant needs replacement down the line.

Inflatable implants come in 2-piece and 3-piece options. Both use a reservoir that holds saline and a hydraulic pump to inflate cylinders implanted within the penis shaft. For 3-piece options, the reservoir is in the abdomen, which means it can be larger and provide better rigidity for larger dicks. In either case, the pump is concealed in the scrotum. If somebody is not having scrotoplasty, it can also be placed in one of the labia majora. Gently squeezing the pump inflates the cylinder and causes the penis to become erect. To make a penis flaccid again, a 2-piece requires the penis to be gently bent downwards for a few seconds. A 3-piece implant has a release valve in the scrotum for deflation.

Erectile devices are one of the things I’ve seen a wide range of emotional responses to in the post/mid-bottom surgery circles I run in.
Some people are really upset or dysphoric about not being able to have unassisted erections, some people are ok with it if they think about it in terms of erectile dysfunction, and some people are neutral on it. I personally actually prefer having manual control over my erections, but that view is not universal.

Pregnancy is something really important to think about when it comes to implants! Pregnancy can put an unsafe amount of pressure on an implant, causing tissue erosion and other complications. I've only heard of a few people who pursued phalloplasty while intending to get pregnant at some point, and while it was possible it also meant forgoing an implant until they were done with having children and fully healed post-birth.

Phalloplasty Size​

The question everybody asks when it comes to transmasculine bottom surgery is ‘do you get to pick how big it is?’. And the answer is... sort of yes, but also sort of no.

You can tell a rough size goal to your surgeon. Some graft sites allow for more customisation than others (I’ve heard ALT allows for longer penises than RFF, but to my knowledge there’s no literature on this), but it is very anatomy dependant. Most surgeons will aim for an average length. There aren’t really guarantees though, and a penis size can change during the healing process, either gaining or losing a bit of length.

Something to consider is that the longer a phallus, the more potential complications and risk there is for tissue loss or necrosis. In addition, as post-phallo penises don’t have different sizes flaccid and erect, you have to deal with that same length in daily life. A six inch penis sounds great, until you have to find underwear that fits (which is also a general problem with post-phallo penises FYI — I’ve had to specifically seek out brands specifically for very hung men).

Putting It All Together: What A Post-Phallo Body Could Look Like​

So we’ve talked about all the different options there are when it comes to phalloplasty. But you write about characters, not about medical procedures! Here’s some examples of how different post-phallo bodies might look:

Person A has had a RFF phalloplasty with vaginectomy, hysterectomy and BSO, UL, glansplasty, scrotoplasty, clitoral burial, nerve hookup, and a 3-piece implant. They also had medical tattooing a few years after their final stage. They do not produce any fluid through their penis and use their implant for erections.

Person B had ALT. They decided not to have an implant, UL, or clitoral burial, but did choose to have scrotoplasty and a vaginectomy. Their testicles are silicone implants, and their clitoris and urethra sit between their scrotum and shaft. They use an external sleeve if they want to be able to penetrate somebody, and can also stimulate their clitoris by itself.

Person C had RFF with UL. They produced a lot of fluid pre-surgery and the way their skene’s glands were connected to their new urethra means they now produce a ‘pre-cum’ like fluid. They had a vaginectomy but did not have a scrotoplasty or clitoral burial. For now, they have an inflatable implant and the pump sits in their labia majora. Later, they intend to replace it with a bendable rod.

Person D had MLD. They intended to carry a child, so have not had UL, hysterectomy and BSO, scrotoplasty, vaginectomy, clitoral burial, or an implant inserted. They have had glansplasty, and intend to continue with further surgeries (hysto + BSO, vaginectomy, scrotoplasty) once they have finished having children.

Sex Post Phalloplasty​

Arousal, Sensation, and Orgasm​

Experience of arousal can really vary, depending on what options somebody has chosen. For people who’ve not had vaginectomy or only had partial vaginectomy, there’s still fluid produced in response to arousal.

For people who produced a lot of fluid pre-op and have had UL and hookup, this can sometimes result in clear fluid coming through the penis.
It isn’t with the same force as a standard issue penis, but can be noticeable. Some people only produce fluid post-orgasm, while some produce it with general arousal.

For people who’ve not had clitoral burial, there are still the visual signs of arousal from pre-op. And for people who’ve had clitoral burial, these signs of arousal may not be visible but they can be felt. For a few people, burial may also involve visible twitching from the outside, but this isn’t guaranteed or even common. Sensation wise, it does feel like getting an erection, and even if it doesn’t feel ‘hard’ per say, it does feel more sensitive.

Depending on sensation and nerve hookup, this feeling of an erection can also extend through part or the whole of the penis. A lot of people I know have described it as feeling like it goes ‘up’ the shaft, starting with the buried clitoris.

Some people say that the base of their penis is most sensitive (particularly if this is where the clitoris is buried), while a handful of others have said their head is the most sensitive.
There may be patches of the phallus that regain sensation at different rates post-surgery, and in some situations patches of the phallus may not regain any sensation or may only have tactile non-erotic sensation.

Whether sensation feels tactile or erotic can also vary depending on how turned on somebody is. Light touch when I’m not horny doesn’t feel erotic, whereas if the same kind of touch takes place when I’m turned on it does.

Unlike standard issue penises, arousal doesn’t lead to erections. This is something some people dislike, others tolerate, and a few prefer.
Making a post-phallo penis erect can be quite quick and incorporated into general ‘playing with the balls’ (or labia if somebody is non-scrotoplasty). The process does involve some manual dexterity, but I’ve not personally found it has an impact on how spontaneous sex can be.

The vast majority of people can orgasm post-phalloplasty.
Even if somebody doesn’t have erotic sensation in their new phallus, if they have a buried clitoris this can be stimulated through the new penis (and if it’s not buried, you can still stimulate it the same way as pre-surgery). The person I know who does not orgasm post-phallo was also unable to orgasm pre-op (and I know a few people who had their first orgasm post-op). It’s not a complete guarantee that somebody won’t be able to orgasm post-op, but it is exceptionally rare.

I can’t speak for everyone, but my orgasms feel pretty similar to the way they did pre-op physically.
Testosterone HRT made my orgasms feel a lot more concentrated in my genitals rather than ‘full bodied’ (and my transfem partners have had the opposite experience going on estrogen), and this continued post-op. It feels more like my clitoris is ‘extended’ rather than a new sensation. The main difference is psychological — everything feels more ‘right’ than it did pre-bottom surgery.

Topping Post-Phalloplasty​

You can top for both anal and vaginal sex post-phalloplasty — I want to specifically say this because I have seen some disinformation that it’s not possible to top for anal because it very much is!

However, for people who haven’t had erectile implants, there can be a bit more prep involved in anal sex than vaginal sex.
As well the earlier mentioned sleeves and external devices, making the penis more rigid can be needed to make anal possible. The main way I see people talk about this is using coban to wrap the penis before putting it in a condom. Having the receptive partner stretch out and prep a bit more can also make it a lot easier to insert.

There’s also some considerations when it comes to positioning, for both vaginal and anal sex. While for the most part positions that would be possible with a standard issue penis are possible, there’s some risk associated with ‘receptive partner on top’ positions, such as cowgirl/reverse cowgirl. These put more weight on the pelvis so can be uncomfortable. With reverse cowgirl in particular, in much the same way it has a risk of bending a standard issue penis uncomfortably, there are risks in terms of implant damage. Different people’s risk profiles are different, but I personally stay away from reverse cowgirl for this reason.

Another thing mention is that occasionally I’ve heard receptive partners of post-phalloplasty people say that they can feel the end of an implant, and it’s pointy/pokey/uncomfortable. This is something that’s fixable with a condom and lube though.

On the subject of lube, because post-phallo dicks don’t tend to produce lubrication in the same way as pre-op anatomy (if at all) lube becomes super important for even jerking off, let alone penetrative sex.


It can be difficult for some people to feel texture, but there's still sensations of warmth, pressure, and wetness. Basically, I could not tell you what Tenga Egg is meant to be what, but I do enjoy the feeling of using them.

Bottoming Post-Phalloplasty​

Anal play and penetration feels… basically the same for me as it did pre-surgery. Some people I know have said post-vaginectomy anal feels better as they can stimulate the ‘g-spot’ more easily without the vaginal canal between the two. It can also feel psychologically better, as it feels more like a prostate in terms of placement and how it’s stimulated. This can vary though, and I personally didn’t really notice a difference.

Vaginal bottoming is something that is impacted by phalloplasty though! The vagina can feel ‘tighter’ as a result of new scar tissue post-hysterectomy and especially post-UL (which is why some surgeons will not offer UL without vaginectomy). Dilation will likely be needed (at least in the early days) if somebody has scrotoplasty and/or UL without vaginectomy. Some people can’t take toys/dicks/hands/etc as large as they used to be able to pre-surgery, while others do return to their pre-op ability.

Non-Penetrative Sex Post-Phalloplasty​

I’m not as sensitive to oral sex as I was pre-surgery. This doesn’t mean it’s not enjoyable and I can’t achieve orgasm with it — my partner just needs to concentrate on the more sensitive parts of my penis to bring me to orgasm. I have more sensation right at the base and at the tip, but this can vary. I also have a lot of scrotum sensation, which feels a lot closer to oral pre-surgery.

You do need to be careful with sex toys that potential constrict blood flow. I mentioned penis sleeves earlier in this guide — it’s general accepted to use ones with open ends so you can check your glans’ colour and make sure you’re not restricting blood flow too much. Cock rings (vibrating or otherwise) are something post-phallo people need to be super careful with because of this.

Handjobs, frotting, and grinding can be good for people who have particular combinations of sensitive/non-sensitive patches or who want to specifically indirectly stimulate a buried clitoris. Lube is really important here though, especially for people who no longer produce any/much of their own.

Kink/BDSM Post-Phalloplasty​

For the most part, kink or BDSM that doesn’t involve direct genital interaction is pretty much the same for post-phallo people as others. However, there are a few situations where post-phalloplasty people either can’t do or have to make changes to.

A post-phalloplasty penis is more fragile and easy to damage — things like blunt force can cause issues and complications, particularly in the urethral. Penis torture (especially if it’s heavy) is off the table, for the most part. Ball-busting with ball implants or a pump system has a risk of traumatic extrusion.

Sounding is also particularly off the table, as the neo-urethra can be easily damaged or destroyed.

Chastity isn’t a complete no, but does have some considerations.
Firstly, if somebody doesn’t have balls fitting a cage style device is not possible, and they’d likely need a belt style device. Additionally, the risk of blood circulation issues that cock rings carry also applies to chastity cages, so long-term caging would be risky. And finally, as phalloplasty penises are the same size flaccid and erect… it’s very difficult to find a chastity cage big enough off the shelf. It’ll likely be a custom job.

Bondage needs to be undertaken with care. As well as the ‘no restriction on the penis’ rule, bondage around the graft site can be difficult. When it comes to rope bondage/shibari especially, being able to feel numbness and tell if it’s from circulation or compression is really important, and difficult to tell apart from graft site numbness. I had RFF, and will not let the arm with my graft site be tied. Instead of using a TK as a base for suspension, I use this diamond harness.

Finally, watersports isn’t a no, but can be impacted by phalloplasty. The sound/strength/feeling of the steam changes with UL — it’s not quite so much of a hissing sound. Most surgeons don’t involve the urethra in their nerve hookup, so it’s unlikely somebody post-phalloplasty will be able to feel past their original urethra inside the shaft.

Social Experiences Post-Phalloplasty​

If you’re writing a contemporary or contemporary-adjacent setting, I think a huge part of making phalloplasty representation feel grounded is the social side of the experience.

Navigating Stigma​

I won’t lie, the most difficult thing about getting phalloplasty for me was the stigma. A lot of people (even within the trans community) don’t properly research it and can spread really gross transphobic rhetoric about it. While I’m not saying you need to write in detail about a transmasculine person experiencing stigma about his bottom surgery, that likely is going to be part of the background of their experience.

Because of this stigma, it can take people a really long time to figure out they want bottom surgery, even if they know they’re trans. I’m lucky enough to live somewhere with socialised healthcare and didn’t need to pay for my bottom surgery, and it still took me the best part of a decade to admit to myself that it was something I wanted. By the time somebody starts pursuing phalloplasty, they are likely many years into transition. Even if they have worked through internalised transphobia in regards to hormones, top surgery, and the social side of transition, they may grapple with internalised transphobia regarding bottom surgery.

Navigating Sex & Relationships​

Quite a few non/pre-bottom surgery transmascs I know have assumed that getting bottom surgery will make sex and relationships easier, but in practice I haven’t found this to be the case. I wouldn’t say it’s necessarily harder, just… different.

I think the first thing to bear in mind is post-phallo trans people are still trans. Even if our bodies are read as cis (which is not the case for all post-phallo genitals, and is something some people specifically choose not to have), we are still fundamentally trans and do not escape transphobia, including in the dating and hookup scenes. In my experience, a lot of people still hold transphobic views about post-op trans genitals — the social view that trans people are ‘fake’ or inferior to cis people is still applied to us when we are post-op. In addition, a lot of people who are interested in trans people can lose that interest once we are post-bottom surgery.

That’s not to say it’s not possible to hookup or date post-bottom surgery (I manage to be a polyamorous slut after all). However it’s not straightforwardly ‘easier’ than navigating sex and relationships pre-surgery. In addition, I have found something unexpected I now have to navigate is explaining my body way more — I have functional differences to standard issue dicks so need to explain that if somebody is expecting a standard issue penis, and also do not have the body people expect me to have when I say I’m transmasculine. Either way, there’s a lot more talking before sex happens than there was pre-surgery.

Dealing With Visible Scarring​

I had RFF, so my graft scar is pretty visible day-to-day. In practice, I’ve not found it to cause much of an issue. The vast, vast majority of people have no idea it’s trans related and most of the time, nobody will comment on it. On the rare occasion somebody does, it’s along the line of thinking it’s a cool scar, or assuming it’s a burn or due to a motorcycle accident. At most, people may recognise it as a graft scar as RFF is a common graft site, but even then they don’t assume it’s trans related. It’s also honestly mostly only noticeable because I am very hairy otherwise, but my graft site is hairless. The few times I have been clocked from my scars, it’s been in specifically trans spaces.

Some people I know have had their phalloplasty graft scars tattooed over. My surgeon recommended ideally waiting 3 years post-op for a tattoo, with an absolute minimum of 2 years, but this can vary between surgeons.

Body Modification​

This comes up a lot in phalloplasty related forums or groups, so I thought I’d mention it here.

I’ve already mentioned medical tattooing. This involves applying pigment to create shading, including the appearance of veins, varied colour, etc. Some people also use medical tattooing to reduce the appearance of graft scars.
Any tattoos on the graft site prior to grafting will be present on the phallus. You can also get the penis tattooed in general.

Piercings are not generally recommended, and especially not recommended to people who’ve had UL and/or an erectile implant put in place due to risk of damage. I do know of somebody who has had a series of piercings, but those piercings would be considered to have the same impermanence as surface piercings and a risk of migrating outwards.

Underwear​

This is something I didn’t really think about until I was in the process of having surgery, but underwear can be… interesting to navigate post-op. Too tight underwear can be uncomfortable, too loose underwear may not offer enough support. Larger penises in particular can require supportive underwear, especially because because routinely not supporting the dick can cause thinning near the base as gravity stretches the tissue. I’ve found that briefs with seperate pouches for the shaft work best for me.

Further Questions?​

Anything you think I've not covered in this guide? Want a quick opinion on one of your WIPs? Leave a comment, and I'll update this guide with a second chapter answering any further questions people have!
 
Nothing like my yaois: at long last, TiFs endure the wretched cisgender fetishization they keep harping on about when a pigshit bisexual man shows up to promote his garbage erotica in which a FTM tops a biological male. However, despite their cries for more trans top representation, the doodz are not pleased with how he went about writing this - though their displeasure falls upon deaf, gooning ears. (The fic itself is just bog standard disgusting porn, so the real entertainment is to be found in the malding, but if you want to read it for yourself you can read it here.)
I had to compare and contrast this proud bisexual man's writing with a stellar example from the Fanfiction Horrors thread, prettybadmagic. He even has a similar diction to her, right down to the "I'm straight, bruh." Observe:
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And compare:
He was having gay sex. He really was gay.

“I’m gonna fuck you now, okay? I’m gonna try to hold back. But it’s real hard for me. You holler if it hurts.”

“I will."

He began the actual fucking procedure rather slowly. He withdrew most of the way, then slid himself back inside. (The 16-year-old) couldn’t get over the rush of the sensation, the emptiness and subsequent fullness, the strange way that the release felt like a sexy poop.
I could immediately clock which one was written by the male. The bisexual male appreciates Malcolm X: Gay Edition over here, while the fujo states that no niggers will be in her slash, just pedophiles. Malcolm XXX vs sexy poops, choose your fighter.
 
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Everybody wants a "tboy"
Citation needed.

I've been involved in the gay/queer hookup scene since I was a teen and never really had any issues finding partners. Over time though my bottom dysphoria has gone crazy and I'm pretty much only interested in topping nowadays. Suddenly my inbox is dry af. Further proof most cis men dont see us as real men.
Or cis women. Or trans men. Or trans women. Or non-binary men. Or non-binary women.

I guess I'm just trying to figure out how much of this is me being gay, and how much is me being socialized female for so long.
Well I can solve part of the equation. None of it is you being gay, since you are a heterosexual woman.

I’ve never liked having small hands, esp with ASL and close up magic, but you know what small, I mean compact hands are good for: fisting.
True story: The singer Jewel read this and retroactively in time composed and recorded her 1998 top 10 song 'Hands'.

I honestly can’t describe how affirming it is to fist someone.
This was the original outro line for Jewel's song but, you guessed, it, studio interference meant it got cut.
 
I see a ton of resentment towards their own people slipping through the cracks these days.
I think some of it, at least, may be deflection from the fact as trannies get older, it's harder and harder to hide their actual sex. Not to mention dealing with the inevitable consequences of no longer being a 20-something whose body can shrug off hard treatment. Difficult enough for normal people to cope with, let alone narcissistic trannies.
 
I think some of it, at least, may be deflection from the fact as trannies get older, it's harder and harder to hide their actual sex. Not to mention dealing with the inevitable consequences of no longer being a 20-something whose body can shrug off hard treatment. Difficult enough for normal people to cope with, let alone narcissistic trannies.
Plus, the actual prescribed medications can cause issues like liver damage and in some cases incontinence. So imagine those 20 something trannies finally hitting the big 30, and they end up with liver disease and stuck in diapers for the rest of their miserable life.
 
a sordid, lustful tale
Well. That was all kinds of shocking nasty. Kudos to her for discovering her gay leather hook up niche and all, but JFC. It's all fun and games until she gets HIV or some rare infection from doing that.

Or she ends up in a shallow grave or a dumpster somewhere.
 
Was looking up covers for various My Chemical Romance songs (blame me binging some Thursday) and came across a pretty good acoustic cover.


Checked to see if she had any new songs/covers. Did 3 months ago after what looks to have been a 3 year hiatus.


Just brutal. Not even about the unfortunate weight gain. Butchered that great voice. Hat to hide balding?

Her 9 years ago.
 
Was looking up covers for various My Chemical Romance songs (blame me binging some Thursday) and came across a pretty good acoustic cover.


Checked to see if she had any new songs/covers. Did 3 months ago after what looks to have been a 3 year hiatus.


Just brutal. Not even about the unfortunate weight gain. Butchered that great voice. Hat to hide balding?

Her 9 years ago.
That YouTube pfp screams autistic female lmao.
 
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