The Official Tomb Raider Grieving Thread - Including the sad, pathetic 2010s trilogy.

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Do we really need a new reboot?

  • Yeah, I think it's about that time

  • No, the franchise is dead.

  • NO, A FOLLOWUP WHERE LARA PREACHES BOUT SLAY QUEEN DEFEATING EVIL ORANGE MAN

  • who cares, square enix killed another franchise

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By the time Crystal Dynamics bought the IP, it could've have potential until Squeenix purchased the company (as well as Eidos; the original TR devs) and thus everything went to shit. Gamers could shittalk companies such as EA, Activision, Konami, 2K, and Ubisoft for buying these companies by destroying them and ruining their IPs in the process (as well as the companies' own flagship IPs), but yet forget about Square Enix and how they did the exact same thing.
 
For people who want to know what's up with lara's guns, they got edited out of the ending in Shadow. If you play the game unpatched you can see them.

There's been some very weird push and pull with firearms, people don't want to glorify weaponry unless it's of the non-gun kind. So swords, bows and arrows, knives are all ok.

but any type of mass produced gun that can be bought at a gun store, they don't want to shine a spotlight on it.
 
TVBForever said:
By the time Crystal Dynamics bought the IP, it could've have potential until Squeenix purchased the company (as well as Eidos; the original TR devs) and thus everything went to shit. Gamers could shittalk companies such as EA, Activision, Konami, 2K, and Ubisoft for buying these companies by destroying them and ruining their IPs in the process (as well as the companies' own flagship IPs), but yet forget about Square Enix and how they did the exact same thing.
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Square Enix only care about their western studios when they need to blame someone for their bad fiscal year.
 
Look who crawled back from her hole...
you know, I don't wanna be mean to poor Rhianna "I don't have daddy issues" Pratchett, because the reboot lacking clear direction is not entirely her fault, but what exactly was she famous for? Mirrors Edge? What 18 titles?
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I love how she admits she was only hired because she is a woman (because only women are now allowed to write female characters and she was the best option they could find)🤣

Later admits she was "recommended"...when in all her previous interviews she claimed she was a "big fan" of the franchise.
 

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So Ben Wheatley was supposed to direct the sequel to the failed 2018 film and Amy Jump writing script with Vikander setting to return as Lara Croft with scheduled March 19, 2021 release. Warner Bros., having out of the project (due to their license expiring) and MGM, having co-distributed said 2018 film, taking full control of the distribution; filming was set to locate in Britain beginning sometime Spring of this year but was delayed til the summer due to Corona-Chan. No updates happened since then. Hell, there's not even a Wikipedia article for the sequel. I mean I know I feel as if I'm jumping the gun a bit but if they want to, maybe they could just straight up say that the film isn't going to make its deadline and would most likely be cancelled, and on top of that, admit that the 2018 reboot was a mistake from the word go, which says something.
 
TVBForever said:
So Ben Wheatley was supposed to direct the sequel to the failed 2018 film and Amy Jump writing script with Vikander setting to return as Lara Croft with scheduled March 19, 2021 release. Warner Bros., having out of the project (due to their license expiring) and MGM, having co-distributed said 2018 film, taking full control of the distribution; filming was set to locate in Britain beginning sometime Spring of this year but was delayed til the summer due to Corona-Chan. No updates happened since then. Hell, there's not even a Wikipedia article for the sequel. I mean I know I feel as if I'm jumping the gun a bit but if they want to, maybe they could just straight up say that the film isn't going to make its deadline and would most likely be cancelled, and on top of that, admit that the 2018 reboot was a mistake from the word go, which says something.
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It's going to probably go to HBO Max like all troubled films (i.e. Mulan going to Disney+).

Like everything is heading to company owned streaming services now because theaters don't get to take a cut and more people will watch the film at home.
 
Marissa Moira said:
It's going to probably go to HBO Max like all troubled films (i.e. Mulan going to Disney+).

Like everything is heading to company owned streaming services now because theaters don't get to take a cut and more people will watch the film at home.
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Wouldn't be surprised either way. Even shit like Cloverfield Paradox, which was shat on Netflix during Super Bowl over a month before the Tomb Raider reboot was released to theatres come to think of it, had nightmarish production history. Though come to think of it (and going off-topic), New Mutants was delayed from hell and back for three years only to finally being released to theatres unsurprisingly, but even then that movie was going to be a world class turd right when it first announced so the world wasn't shocked when the film was released and people still found out that even with reshoots and all, it was still utter crap. At any rate, a VOD streaming release for a Tomb Raider sequel will be justified. I mean, Artemis Fowl and Mulan came out and they were total apocalyptic dogshit so I wouldn't be surprised if the sequel would come out with somewhat exact results.
 
Explain to me the appeal of Shadow.
For some reason, the classic stans have a huge boner for it and Eidos Montreal, but I'm about 3 hours in and the most investment I had so far is trying to throw ugly baby Lara off the roof.
Large tombs are cool but they become repetitive really fast. Maybe I just don't like the jungle... The whole core gameplay of the reboot became tiresome. Even Camilla sounds tired. And you can't skip some of the cutscenes, which is really annoying.
 
elzaw said:
The whole core gameplay of the reboot became tiresome.
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Both the gameplay and the writing are tiresome. I think I stopped playing when I got to the flashback at the manor.
The problem that I have with this trilogy is the same that I had with the Batman Arkham series: by the time I get to the third game I shouldn't have to craft shit or unlock new stuff. My character should be at the top of his/her game. They slightly acknowledged it by having Lara travel with her personal bow, but you still have to craft a fucking knife, something that she should always carry, especially after all the shit she's been through in previous games.
 
They actually could have done a smart way of going about things like that by having her show up all prepared with fancy shit her wealth allows, but then its lost in an inevitable accident and its back to square one until you recover it all. But we can't have Lara Croft show off she's rich as fuck and does this for fun. That would be neo-colonialism.
 
I really enjoyed the reboot and "Rise of" but holy shit shadow was trash. It's like it took pages from the Uncharted 4 playbook to make the game as boring and shitty as possible. The only big shootout/battle was in the last 30 minutes. In the first one, it seemed like every new area had an action sequence. They were lessened in Rise and practically non-existent in Shadow. I don't know why there is this push with action/adventure to be pretty set pieces with little to no action.
 
Marissa Moira said:
Because normies can't play them good. So it has to emulate a movie where the game because a passive experience instead of interactive.
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Literally similar to other shit games from big-name AAA developers such as Last of Us Part II among others.

Needless to say, I'm glad that a lot of games nowadays (especially with indie devs) are finally moving past the boring, bland theatrical movie style and going back to what it was back in the 2000s (in other words, being challenging but fun and even more cartoony at times) such as Fall Guys, Among Us, Hylics, Untitled Goose Game, etc.
 
TVBForever said:
Literally similar to other shit games from big-name AAA developers such as Last of Us Part II among others.

Needless to say, I'm glad that a lot of games nowadays (especially with indie devs) are finally moving past the boring, bland theatrical movie style and going back to what it was back in the 2000s (in other words, being challenging but fun and even more cartoony at times) such as Fall Guys, Among Us, Hylics, Untitled Goose Game, etc.
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At the risk of going off-topic, I've been installing and replaying old games from this era. Been playing the shit out of Far Cry 2, Freelancer, AVP2, and Red Alert 2. Those games were made to appeal to fan bases and not focus groups. I personally hate Dark Souls and Bloodborne but I realize those games aren't for me. I'm not going to sign a petition to make the sequels easier and more accessible to people who aren't good at hack n slashers.
 
Jeff_the_Thriller said:
At the risk of going off-topic, I've been installing and replaying old games from this era. Been playing the shit out of Far Cry 2, Freelancer, AVP2, and Red Alert 2. Those games were made to appeal to fan bases and not focus groups. I personally hate Dark Souls and Bloodborne but I realize those games aren't for me. I'm not going to sign a petition to make the sequels easier and more accessible to people who aren't good at hack n slashers.
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I'd rather not go off-topic myself. I still think a lot of old games I grew up with are still much better than I remembered. I was more into racing games like Re/Volt, Burnout, Nascar, Daytona USA, Need for Speed, etc.; even some of the games I loved back in my youth such as Spyro the Dragon and SpongeBob: Battle for Bikini Bottom have gotten much more love over the years (even both just got remastered and they're great). Even some newer games like Puyo Puyo Tetris, Persona, among others have become fun to play as a lot games should be back in the 2000s.

I sadly think games such as Tomb Raider or Need for Speed, as well as Mortal Kombat, Fallout, Final Fantasy, Battlefield, Call of Duty, Last of Us, Pokemon, among other games have failed to capture the same exact impact as when they once were due to absolute executive manipulation.
 
I've tried Far Cry 2, and the fucking checkpoints always kill my enjoyment dead. See, the way the game is set up those are never, ever stored in memory, so they constantly refresh to their default, filled state as soon as you leave their cell. And no, modders can't do jack about that, sadly.
 
Snekposter said:
They actually could have done a smart way of going about things like that by having her show up all prepared with fancy shit her wealth allows, but then its lost in an inevitable accident and its back to square one until you recover it all. But we can't have Lara Croft show off she's rich as fuck and does this for fun. That would be neo-colonialism.
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So, basically, Metroid?
 
I liked the first game in the reboot series, but after that I dropped all interest. I don't think we ever saw Reboot!Laura dual wield pistols or anything, did we? Unless my memory fails me.
 
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