- Joined
- Oct 1, 2013
I think her name is Mother Shabooboo now.
Last edited:
The Official Simpsons Griefing Thread
- Thread starter *Asterisk*
- Start date
-
🏰 The Fediverse is up. If you know, you know.
-
Want to keep track of this thread?
Accounts can bookmark posts, watch threads for updates, and jump back to where you stopped reading.
Create account
- Joined
- Jan 15, 2017
That's his cult name so technically, yes
- Joined
- Sep 27, 2019
And this is why people pirate. What the fuck is so "problematic" about the Homer Badman episode? I think it's re.tarded the Michael Jackson and gun episodes were pulled, but I can at least kinda-sorta get their reasoning (feeble as it may be.) Homer didn't actually grope the babysitter, he was demonized by an outrage mob less concerned with facts and more concerned with knee jerk emotional reactions and ya know what, I think I just answered my own question...
- Joined
- Dec 13, 2016
"That's okay. Your tears say more than real evidence ever could."
What's fucked up is that we're getting to a point where the pirates are more concerned with preservation of television and movies. When you have to break the law just to make sure episodes of a beloved TV show aren't scrubbed away forever, that says nothing but bad things about the industry.
- Joined
- Sep 25, 2014
It sure does. Look at all the Star Wars fans that had to restore the first movie to the way it was in 1977, that took a lot of work! I cannot get mad at that. They would never provide us with what we'd want to see anyway.
- Joined
- Mar 29, 2014
I used to see Simpsons DVDs from good seasons at the local store.
Then only a few from later crap seasons.
Now I don't think I see them anymore.
Then only a few from later crap seasons.
Now I don't think I see them anymore.
Stupid Berenstain timeline...
- Joined
- Jan 15, 2017
My siblings and I each subscribe to a different streaming service and bounce off of each other. (Well, I'm the one with Prime shipping, so Prime Video is included in the price.) Even with access to Netflix, Hulu, and Prime there's so much that's missing or incomplete on all three platforms. Or, in Amazon's case, most of their offerings are still behind an additional paywall. If Prime Video was a separate service I would not be a customer. It's that worthless. It's only getting worse as more streaming services pop up. I often resort to pirating to find a specific thing or buying the home video release if I like something enough. eBay can be surprisingly dirt cheap for used DVDs. I've bought seasons of King of the Hill for $3 (with free shipping) in good condition there.
As for Homer Badman... The best thing I can think of is all the parallels to the #metoo movement. Despite the episode predating that by decades. Still a super weak argument. I would've imagined Disney be more offended at something like Grampa vs Sexual Inadequacy or Natural Born Kissers being on their platform versus that.
I was never a fan of the Disney buyout of Fox but it's just getting more and more ridiculous. They're already pulling the Disney Vault shit on Fox movies.
- Joined
- May 9, 2018
I still question why people still Disney+ for the Simpsons when they do stuff like this I don't know if this is just a one off or it will affect other stuff on Disney+ as well but I would not be surprised if its the later. I guess I'll start making a massive archive of shows I want to keep on a external hard drive for now on along with collecting copys of it on DVD.
Last edited:
- Joined
- Sep 27, 2019
That's exactly what I've been doing for about 6 years now. Have about 8TB worth of tv shows and movies that are getting harder and harder to find or don't have a DVD release.
Kinda feel like gloating like a cliched mad scientist among my friends because they used to flick me shit and rib me about it. "You know we have streaming now, dude? You're wasting your money. You can find any episode of any show you want with one click."
They called me mad when I said you can't rely on streaming services forever! But who's mad now!?
- Joined
- Jan 15, 2017
I always found streaming unreliable. Stuff gets removed too often. Even stuff that feels like it should "stay." I remember going "WTF" when Netflix removed Jurassic Park like months after getting it. Even with pirating, well, it's pirating. If you like something and it's super hard to find you better fucking find a way to download it before the site's shut down.
Don't get me wrong. It's nice to have digital access to something. But at the end of the day a physical copy/backup is almost always going to be superior. A lot of times growing up my siblings and I often binged our Simpsons DVDs because it was the only thing we could agree on when there was nothing on TV or the internet was out.
- Joined
- Jan 25, 2016
Bet you anything the next episodes they're gonna remove are the Apu episodes because muh racism.
- Joined
- Dec 13, 2016
This is exactly why I started to hate streaming and why I started buying DVDs instead. At least with a DVD I don't have to have some company dictate what I can watch and when. It's mine to use how I please. And it disturbs me that people are so willing to give up ownership just for the illusion of convenience.
Much Apu About Nothing would be on the chopping block.
- Joined
- Aug 30, 2015
I always found the existence of VCDs odd and fascinating.
- Joined
- Sep 25, 2014
I've been doing this for probably over 20 years now. I've gotten passed all that and it never worried me.
Southeast Asia especially took to them very quickly in the late 90's. I suppose being easier to tote around than VHS tapes is one reason.
- Joined
- Feb 19, 2017
I figured Stark Raving Dad was not going to make the cut, but I'm honestly surprised that Homer Badman and Cartridge Family got cut out too, at least right out the gate.
All three of those episodes are beloved classic episodes that predated the modern controversies of today (The Cartridge Family was pre-Columbine, so mass shootings weren't the focus of the gun control debate at the time) and wouldn't it be easier for Disney to just put a disclaimer at the beginning of those episodes?
WWE Network did it with Chris Benoit footage, precisely because their previous efforts to censor Benoit's matches both infuriated the fans and created a Streisand Effect. They figured a disclaimer would just be easier for all parties involved.
Hell, doesn't Disney+ already have a content disclaimer on some of their older films like Dumbo or The Aristocats? Why couldn't they have a disclaimer for those episodes of The Simpsons?
I have a personal theory on why those episodes were cut out at launch. Disney is testing the waters and while the three episodes that were removed are controversial, they're also beloved by the fans. My best guess is that Disney is trying to see how much they can get away with their censorship. Have it start with Stark Raving Dad, Homer Badman, and The Cartridge Family, and then they'll try to move on to Natural Born Kissers, Homer's Phobia, and Much Apu About Nothing, etc.
Problem is that Disney may have overplayed their hand on the opening move. Had they just removed Stark Raving Dad at launch, but also kept in The Cartridge Family and Homer Badman at launch, less people would notice and there would be a much lower chance of backlash. Then Disney could more easily and incrementally remove any "problematic" episodes and few would notice until it was too late.
All three of those episodes are beloved classic episodes that predated the modern controversies of today (The Cartridge Family was pre-Columbine, so mass shootings weren't the focus of the gun control debate at the time) and wouldn't it be easier for Disney to just put a disclaimer at the beginning of those episodes?
WWE Network did it with Chris Benoit footage, precisely because their previous efforts to censor Benoit's matches both infuriated the fans and created a Streisand Effect. They figured a disclaimer would just be easier for all parties involved.
Hell, doesn't Disney+ already have a content disclaimer on some of their older films like Dumbo or The Aristocats? Why couldn't they have a disclaimer for those episodes of The Simpsons?
I have a personal theory on why those episodes were cut out at launch. Disney is testing the waters and while the three episodes that were removed are controversial, they're also beloved by the fans. My best guess is that Disney is trying to see how much they can get away with their censorship. Have it start with Stark Raving Dad, Homer Badman, and The Cartridge Family, and then they'll try to move on to Natural Born Kissers, Homer's Phobia, and Much Apu About Nothing, etc.
Problem is that Disney may have overplayed their hand on the opening move. Had they just removed Stark Raving Dad at launch, but also kept in The Cartridge Family and Homer Badman at launch, less people would notice and there would be a much lower chance of backlash. Then Disney could more easily and incrementally remove any "problematic" episodes and few would notice until it was too late.
- Joined
- Mar 29, 2014
Reminds me of this one time some guy was telling me about how cool digital download games are versus physical media, as he played some chess game on a PSP or Vita. Flash forward a week or two and he lost all the DLC due to an error, and IIRC he couldn't get it back for some reason. I didn't rub it in his face though.
And while I'm at it, relying only on the "cloud" for storage is a bad move as well. Companies can remove what you stored due to broad and vague terms of service restrictions. They can go out of business. You can lose internet access. The net can go down.
That's why I like having stuff on physical media -- be it vidya or DVDs of Simpsons episodes (from the good seasons of course).
It's good not to forget to back stuff up too.
Di$ney has way too much power. It's their fault that copyright terms have become so ridiculously long in the USA. They didn't want "Steamboat Willie" to enter public domain, so they lobbied.
Last edited:
- Joined
- Sep 3, 2018
I just checked Disney+ and both The Cartridge Family and Homer Badman are both available. Stark Raving Dad isn't.
What's interesting is that the episode numbers have been preserved, so season 3 starts with episode 2 instead of listing Mr. Lisa Goes to Washington as episode 1.
What's interesting is that the episode numbers have been preserved, so season 3 starts with episode 2 instead of listing Mr. Lisa Goes to Washington as episode 1.
- Joined
- Dec 13, 2016
Well shit, I guess we were 2/3s wrong, which is still mostly wrong.
Still, the fact that we believed it as readily as we did shows that Disney pulling off something like that isn't too unbelievable.
- Joined
- Jan 25, 2016
Eh, I still feel they'll go censorship crazy and radically change the Simpsons until it's the Lisa Simpson Show. God knows there's way too much material that could make an SJW rage ("Apu is racist, Homer is abusive, Marge is abused, Bart has white male privilege, too many characters are white"...)