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Ineedahero said:
Wait, you think Luke is not a wish fulfilment fantasy? The bored goofy farm boy who goes on an amazing adventure and finds out he's a magic warrior and makes out with a princess?
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It's a wish fulfillment fantasy for the AUDIENCE. Only when it is a wish fulfillment fantasy for the actual author does Mary Sue even come into play.
 
AnOminous said:
It's a wish fulfillment fantasy for the AUDIENCE. Only when it is a wish fulfillment fantasy for the actual author does Mary Sue even come into play.
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According to the original definition yes. But just because the term has been expanded to include wish fulfillment for the audience - which is the only other way I ever see it being used - doesn't mean it has become so diluted it is essentially meaningless now.
 
AngeloTheWizard said:
Guys, less arguing over a stupid term, more feminist sperging.
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The stupid term is their actual name that they chose. They chose a term for a shitty kind of character. If their shitty term meant iconic characters like Superman and Luke Skywalker, they wouldn't be lolcows. As it is, though, they're definitely cows. As in chicks. Because they're female humans with vaginas who suck dicks. And dudes who suck dicks. And dudes who suck dicks while claiming to be females. With dicks.
 
[:story:] http://www.themarysue.com/transformers-subverts-michael-bay/ Mary Sue published an article where a woman who admitted she didn't grow up with Transformers or Comic Books of any kind, never watched Transformers cartoons or read comics except Calvin and Hobbes, unironically talked about how IDW's latest Transformers comic incarnation subverts the "toxic masculinity" in the Michael Bay TF movies.[/ :story:]
 
Koby_Fish said:
[:story:] http://www.themarysue.com/transformers-subverts-michael-bay/ Mary Sue published an article where a woman who admitted she didn't grow up with Transformers or Comic Books of any kind, never watched Transformers cartoons or read comics except Calvin and Hobbes, unironically talked about how IDW's latest Transformers comic incarnation subverts the "toxic masculinity" in the Michael Bay TF movies.[/ :story:]
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You really needed to share this sentence.
I still tend to take most of my comics recommendations from my fellow liberal arts educated, left-leaning, Zadie Smith and Elena Ferrante-reading, vintage-glasses wearing, writerly-type women.
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I can smell the cat piss from here.
 
To be fair, I believe that the reason why Playboy dropped the porn is because it actually didn't make business sense for them to continue. They simply can't keep up with internet porn. Dropping the porn increased their audience.
 
Koby_Fish said:
[:story:] http://www.themarysue.com/transformers-subverts-michael-bay/ Mary Sue published an article where a woman who admitted she didn't grow up with Transformers or Comic Books of any kind, never watched Transformers cartoons or read comics except Calvin and Hobbes, unironically talked about how IDW's latest Transformers comic incarnation subverts the "toxic masculinity" in the Michael Bay TF movies.[/ :story:]
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She's kind of right about the new Transformers comic being really well written and sort of matching her ideological stances but they really should have got someone who actually likes transformers.
 
Splendid Meat Sticks said:
To be fair, I believe that the reason why Playboy dropped the porn is because it actually didn't make business sense for them to continue. They simply can't keep up with internet porn. Dropping the porn increased their audience.
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So why did their profits plummet?

Early returns indicated that the decision to pull nudity was a prudent one; single-copy sales jumped 28 percent in the first six months of 2016 over the same period the year before, according to data from the Alliance for Audited Media. Unfortunately for Playboy, subscribers account for the overwhelming majority of its circulation, which tumbled 23 percent in the same period, to 816,926. To put those numbers in greater context, Playboy sold 7.2 million copies of its November 1972 edition, and its circulation topped 3 million as recently as 2006.
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You guys should see the lefou tag on tumblr, it's getting wild. Mix of "dumb straight people complaining about liberal agenda" and "muh poor queer kids with a queer-coded villain", all made by of course gender-special tumblrinas who probably only fake to be gay to get oppression points.

Why do I feel they're only bitching about it bc it's Disney? If Dreamworks or their sacred cow Steven Universe made the story they would be creaming their jeans in glee.
 
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Yaoi Huntress Earth said:
Finn Jones' explanation on why Iron Fist isn't getting an Asian lead (when the title character is a white man), is still not good enough for TMS. Heck, one commentor (Black Canary) thinks the show should not be made at all.
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China is a massive international hub for Business and commerce and as such there's quite a few white people there as well as people of all other races. Seriously what is it with sjws and believing white people don't exist anywhere but America?
 
Ruin said:
China is a massive international hub for Business and commerce and as such there's quite a few white people there as well as people of all other races. Seriously what is it with sjws and believing white people don't exist anywhere but America?
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SJWs know very little of history and have this belief that every country has the same history of the USA regarding race relations (white people on power, slavery, genocide, "Poor POCs"), so when they see another country talk about race issues or make media featuring whites in positive roles, they get REEE.

And when these countries try to follow America's way/white guilt just to not get eaten by SJWs and called racists, we get disasters like the rapefugee nonsense in Europe. Sure, our women may be getting raped more than usual, but hey, at least we aren't racists!

^Ugh, the TVTropes forum is awful. Probably the biggest collection of smug egotistical SJWs who think they're god's gift to man. Don't know what is it but SJWs know how to master patronization and passive-agressivenes very well.
 
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