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Rudy put this vid up, and it's worth discussing:


This is a good example of one of the many legit problems MTG has right now. Ignore the likes of Hamblyburger Helper and his fellow tards for a moment; this sort of thing has become extremely common in certain stores - who will basically open the starter packs, take out any quality rares or mythics, replace them with middling rares and trash rares, reseal and then sell the starter packs as if nothing is wrong (making money on the Mythics/Quality Rares on the singles market).

WotC is pretty well-known for not doing anything to fight this practice. Now, admittedly, postmarket is beyond their control, but at issue is that resealed packs are easy to track; you can do so very easily via serial codes since the fucking things need to be scanned upon delivery. This falls in line with other issues WotC has had with quality control (such as misprints and cardstock woes). It doesn't help consumer confidence one bit.
 
Yo, Count Dankula gives a good rundown of some MtG drama, I dunno if anyone has posted it here but it's a ride.




Sorry, just getting into MtG, so I'm barely aware of most of the drama.
 
Hambly trying to chime in on/crossover with the Madden tournament shooter. Spoiler Alert: nothing important is said & he's just self-inserting into an unrelated tragedy to ride the wave, claiming to "expect claims of toxic masculinity" on all facets of nerd culture.
 
Haramburger said:
Hambly trying to chime in on/crossover with the Madden tournament shooter. Spoiler Alert: nothing important is said & he's just self-inserting into an unrelated tragedy to ride the wave, claiming to "expect claims of toxic masculinity" on all facets of nerd culture.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=CcnkzWKOrEU
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Ya know if I didn't know any better I'd say this Hambly guy is just angling for some attention, regardless of how he gets it.

I'm also incredibly autistic and angry all the time, however, so my judgement on the matter might be a bit askew.

(also why do his production values keep getting worse the bigger his channel gets?)
 
Haramburger said:
Hambly trying to chime in on/crossover with the Madden tournament shooter. Spoiler Alert: nothing important is said & he's just self-inserting into an unrelated tragedy to ride the wave, claiming to "expect claims of toxic masculinity" on all facets of nerd culture.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=CcnkzWKOrEU
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Well yes, this is the same person who tried to make himself look good by outing pedophiles but couldn't keep his spaghetti in for more than a few hours before making it all about himself
 
So apparently WOTC hired a bunch of artists without vetting them to see if they were US citizens.

Three got arrested by ICE earlier this week.

Sorry about the lack of Archive on that one, Hipsters of the Coast is one of the rare sites to edit its robots.txt to specifically make it hard to archive and impossible to cache.

Short version is that these artists got nailed for using their ESTA waivers to circumvent a need for a legal visa, indicating that WotC was compliant in this. ESTA is designed for short-term work, not years worth of subcontracting as it apparently intended.

The response by /r/MagicTCG:
"Abolish ICE!"
"THIS IS RACISM'S FAULT!"
"WE HAVE A RACIST IN CHARGE OF THE WHITE HOUSE RIGHT NOW!"

And the one with over a dozen upboats:
Bolt your local ICE agent.
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Off topic, but how hard would it be to make perfect replicas of expensive MTG cards and sell them to second hand stores? I know a machinist that used to work in a baseball card printshop; the machines cost a few thousand dollars, the cardstock needs to match, and you must defeat their antipiracy mechanisms... but it seems like a much easier criminal venture than counterfeiting cash. Once the replica passes all tests it is a MTG card, and the sales model makes it hard to get caught.
 
Problem is, say you go to all that effort to replicate a given super valuable card, say a Black Lotus. So now you can print them, great. Except anyone showing up with a dozen of the things is going to rightfully be viewed as a counterfeiter. You won't have any way to move them in any kind of bulk. Any magic card worth good money is worth it because it's extremely rare; nobody shy of the largest resellers is likely to have more than one or two at any given moment. And of course the recent ones have more anti-counterfeit measures built in than the old cards, so cranking out scores of $30 modern rares has its own issues to overcome.
 
The Chinese make counterfeits they don't look horrible if they are double sleeved but if you touch them and handle a lot of cards they definitely feel off. Kinda waxy, almost like regular playing cards.
 
If I did it, I'd start with the oldest most valuable cards as they probably are the rarest and have the fewest security measures. You could rig a web shop pretty easy and sell them to individuals that way. Or you could sell them one at a time on auction sites and make a lot more.

You could probably catfish one of the mtg corp weebs into giving away manufacturing secrets like paints/dyes, holograms, and cardstock supplier used.
 
The Man From G.R.I.D.S. said:
If I did it, I'd start with the oldest most valuable cards as they probably are the rarest and have the fewest security measures. You could rig a web shop pretty easy and sell them to individuals that way. Or you could sell them one at a time on auction sites and make a lot more.

You could probably catfish one of the mtg corp weebs into giving away manufacturing secrets like paints/dyes, holograms, and cardstock supplier used.
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That's the wrong way to go. The high end mtg crowd is very good at catching counterfeits. Hell, Rudy from alpha investments partially has a shit reputation because he keeps trying to sell that "signed" Chris rush black lotus on eBay. The high end group tracked down rush's lawyer and basically had him sign an affidavit saying the signature was a fake.

You make your money selling counterfeits in the $5-10 range, preferably standard staples that will be worthless in a few months anyways. People won't bat an eye and the current stock quality is so poor that you can lie and say that's just how it came out.
 
The Man From G.R.I.D.S. said:
If I did it, I'd start with the oldest most valuable cards as they probably are the rarest and have the fewest security measures. You could rig a web shop pretty easy and sell them to individuals that way. Or you could sell them one at a time on auction sites and make a lot more.

You could probably catfish one of the mtg corp weebs into giving away manufacturing secrets like paints/dyes, holograms, and cardstock supplier used.
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Don't even bother with high-end. With so few of those pieces, especially once you start going for P9, everyone and their grandma is gonna want tests and verifications out the ass; if you get caught, good luck, because the ultra-high end group will know and stay away.

Blagher said:
You make your money selling counterfeits in the $5-10 range, preferably standard staples that will be worthless in a few months anyways. People won't bat an eye and the current stock quality is so poor that you can lie and say that's just how it came out.
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Nah, he should make Commander 'proxies', including alternate arts (with permission.) There's a decent market for folks who can't afford the big stuff, weebs can get their favorite piece of fap bait on a card, it's all secondary market, and most of us who play don't play competitive, so almost no one will care.
 
I forgot to say this in my earlier posts, but what piqued my interest was a story the machinist guy told me. It was about some autist that MADE genuine baseball cards. Same or better cardstock, inks, printing machine (the autist reverse engineered their processes in between classes at uni, where he was studying mech. engineering). His cards were 1 for 1 copies, effectively real. He was caught because his cards held up better to abuse and lasted longer. The fakes were higher quality than the originals.

A motivated nerd with access to a uni lab and an internet connection could run circles around these sjw faggots.

Tl;dr: Autist engineer with mass spectronomer inspires awe in middle aged machinist.
 
If I were to get into the bogus card game I'd go after the markets with the *usually* younger demographics, Pokemon and Yu-gi-oh. Hell anyone who's worked with video games trade-ins probably knows that a good chunk of Pokemon Gameboy and GBA cartridges are fakes because they go after stupid kids and Sally Soccermoms who don't know better.
 
VerdantBuckle34 said:
Nah, he should make Commander 'proxies', including alternate arts (with permission.) There's a decent market for folks who can't afford the big stuff, weebs can get their favorite piece of fap bait on a card, it's all secondary market, and most of us who play don't play competitive, so almost no one will care.
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Less money in it since people know the cards are useless. Unless you're making crazy foil proxies, which cost more money, I would surprised if people are gonna pay more than $1-2 for it. Source is what people around me use for trade value of foil commander proxies

The Man From G.R.I.D.S. said:
I forgot to say this in my earlier posts, but what piqued my interest was a story the machinist guy told me. It was about some autist that MADE genuine baseball cards. Same or better cardstock, inks, printing machine (the autist reverse engineered their processes in between classes at uni, where he was studying mech. engineering). His cards were 1 for 1 copies, effectively real. He was caught because his cards held up better to abuse and lasted longer. The fakes were higher quality than the originals.

A motivated nerd with access to a uni lab and an internet connection could run circles around these sjw faggots.

Tl;dr: Autist engineer with mass spectronomer inspires awe in middle aged machinist.
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Well part of the issue is that for magic, they're more or less stuck with not being able to deviate from the original stock too much. If you change the quality too significantly, then you have an issue of people being able to "feel" out cards from their deck. It's pretty ironic. If you look at the newer ccgs like fire emblem, the stock is much higher
 
Meet "Social Justice Goblin" (self named). An MTG loon (even though this video is in reference to comicsgate).

I found this via Ethan Van Sciver's Twitter. Apparently this goblin is looking to confront either Ricard C Meyers or EVS to "end" comicsgate.

Notice the slight paranoia in the video regarding the "speed of activity" of the niggers around her (it?) (she's (it's) in the hood apparently).

https://twitter.com/ninjapiratetx


Apologies if this should be posted elsewhere, I'm a noob poster.
 
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