The Kansas Abortion Shocker

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Earlier this summer, when the Supreme Court ended a 50-year federal right to abortion, Democrats had no choice but to place their faith in voters to rebel against the ruling. Until tonight, however, no one could definitively say whether Roe v. Wade outrage would carry over to the polls.

Tonight in Kansas, Americans got their first hint of that response, and it was a resounding victory for abortion rights. Voters there decisively rejected an amendment that would have allowed the state’s Republican-controlled legislature to ban abortion across the state. With more than three-quarters of precincts reporting, the “No” vote was leading by more than 20 points. The surprising result keeps abortion legal in a GOP stronghold, one of the few states in the region where conservative majorities have not already outlawed the procedure.

Politically, the outcome is sure to reverberate across the country and buoy the Democrats’ bid to capitalize on the overturning of Roe in the midterm battle for Congress this fall. It will lift the party’s hopes that anger over the Supreme Court’s decision will matter more than concerns about inflation and President Joe Biden’s leadership, allowing Democrats to maintain their narrow majorities on Capitol Hill. “This victory tonight confirms that abortion is popular in all states, not just on the coasts,” Elise Higgins, a lifelong Kansan who is the director of reproductive rights at the State Innovation Exchange, a progressive advocacy group, told me.

Tonight marked the first time that voters had a chance to weigh in directly on abortion since the Supreme Court scrapped Roe in its decision in Dobbs v. Mississippi Women’s Health Organization. Both public and private polls had shown the race to be close, and opponents of the anti-abortion amendment were cautiously optimistic in the closing days that they could pull out an upset victory.

Republican lawmakers in Kansas had put a constitutional amendment on the ballot long before the Supreme Court ruling, scheduling the vote to coincide a partisan August primary that they hoped would help the anti-abortion cause. For more than a year, it looked like that decision would pay off. But the June 24 decision in the Dobbscase galvanized abortion-rights supporters, who blanketed Kansas’s most populous counties with television ads that targeted not only Democrats but independent and Republican voters as well.

The amendment would have banned taxpayer funding of abortion and effectively invalidated a 2019 ruling by the Kansas Supreme Court that the state’s constitution protected abortion rights. Approval of the ballot measure would have given Kansas’s GOP lawmakers free reign to follow their counterparts in other conservative states, including Missouri, Oklahoma, and Texas, and ban abortion without exceptions. Republicans have a supermajority in the Kansas legislature, meaning they would likely be able to override a veto by the state’s Democratic governor, Laura Kelly.

Drawing on polling data over the past several years, the “Vote No” campaign insisted that despite the state’s Republican leanings, support for abortion rights in Kansas extended nearly as broadly as it does in the nation overall. “The majority of Kansans want abortion to remain safe, legal, and accessible,” Higgins said.

Kansas’s abortion foes didn’t make much effort to dispute that assertion. Rather than campaign outwardly for voters to give them the right to ban abortion, the “Yes” side argued that the ballot initiative—named the “Value Them Both Amendment”—would merely take the decision away from the courts and return it to the public and elected representatives. Canvassers were instructed to make clear to voters that the amendment itself did not outlaw abortion, even though its passage would free the GOP-controlled legislature to do so.

At times, anti-abortion advocates clouded their pitch in the language of their opposition, using words like “choice” and “regulation.” That effort veered into outright misinformation a day before the election, when thousands of voters—including a former Democratic governor of Kansas, Kathleen Sebelius—received a text message warning that women in the state “are losing their choice” on abortion. “Voting YES on the Amendment will give women a choice,” the text said. “Vote YES to protect women’s health.” The sender was unidentified, although the Washington Postreported that the group behind the texts is run by a former arch-conservative Kansas congressman.

Higgins was one of the voters who received the text on Monday. She sent “a strongly-worded reply” to the number, she told me, but got no further response. “I was really furious,” Higgins said. “It was part and parcel of the deceptive tactics that the anti-abortion movement is using in this fight.”

But Higgins also told me she was hopeful, seeing the desperation inherent in the misleading texts as evidence that abortion-rights supporters had already succeeded in overcoming their biggest challenge. They had mobilized voters to turn out in what was expected to be a sleepy summer primary in which many voters would otherwise have had no reason to participate. That initial victory was confirmed the moment the polls began to close tonight, when Kansas’s secretary of state, Scott Schwab, said turnout would likely shatter expectations and rival that of a presidential general election.

The question then became whether a surge in enthusiasm would be enough to carry the abortion-rights side in a state that Donald Trump won by 15 points just two years ago. Within a couple of hours, the answer became clear, and it wasn’t particularly close. Now, Democrats will try to replicate that winning strategy in another long-shot campaign: keeping control of Congress in November.

 
Money talks dude. Even through legal channels, you’re not going to get anything done in the ballot box unless you play nice with the political machine or are independently wealthy.
Yes I am aware that money is hugely important in the US political process, citizens united 2010 etc.

I'm sure pro choice groups are raking in the dough. But blaming it on "dark money", when a majority of Americans support Abortion in one form or another is just dumb.
 

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I'm anti-life
Do you have the equation for that?

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Hmm, yes, no deceptiveness or foul play here.
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I seriously have no idea what the hell this says. If you put a gun to my head and said "vote to make abortion illegal or I'll kill you", I'd just have to flip a coin and pray, because I have zero clue which of these is the pro-abortion option. Or rather, I wouldn't have had I not read this article. This was absolutely written to be as confusing as possible. Fuckery of the highest caliber.

I don't know how this kind of thing works, but I suspect there's some contingency for something like this and they may be forced to try again, but this time they won't be allowed to make the question intentionally difficult to understand. This is so hostile it could legitimately fall under the definition of a literacy test. We almost nixed the 2000 presidential election because one county had a type of ballot that could potentially be confusing if you're severely mentally retarded. This is a hundred times worse.

And just for the record, I don't care if Kansas wants abortion or not. From an objective point of view, this vote should receive a do-over.
 
Hmm, yes, no deceptiveness or foul play here.
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I'll summarize best I can:
"We retain the right to regulate or outright ban abortion, with the only exceptions being rape, incest, or if the life of the mother is threatened. We are asking you, the voter, if you agree on this."

It's obtuse but I understood it.
This is being severely misconstrued. It doesn't actually change anything since this was an attempt at an amendment to the constitution that outright allows further restrictions basically, it's main point was to ensure there could be no constitutional right read out of it. Plus there was a lot of dem fearmongering etc. Abortion is still banned (outside of health exceptions) past ~20 weeks.


It ended up losing a lot closer vote than originally seemed (or described by mainstream media.) ~58%-42%

The whole thing from the beginning was a stupid overplay by idiots in their gov. Not a sign of anything.
Considering Dems have dangled abortion for 40 years despite having sufficient time to protect it on a state by state level and changing opinions, younger voters who are galvanized by social media are giving the finger to the GOP and the VoteBlue crowd. Lots of Dem voters are saying Dems are using them as fodder, because provided they are Democrat they will always get their vote. If you go on any Libtard Facebook page you'll see this among older, 40 year old white women or Boomers. But there's a growing movement of people tired of Democrat bullshit and Independents who want a new party that don't want to be involved with either side.

What it does mean is that a sleepy referendum had people willing to get out and vote. If you can't change things on a national level, you can start small. And this is how you start.
 
I'll summarize best I can:
"We retain the right to regulate or outright ban abortion, with the only exceptions being rape, incest, or if the life of the mother is threatened. We are asking you, the voter, if you agree on this."

It's obtuse but I understood it.

Considering Dems have dangled abortion for 40 years despite having sufficient time to protect it on a state by state level and changing opinions, younger voters who are galvanized by social media are giving the finger to the GOP and the VoteBlue crowd. Lots of Dem voters are saying Dems are using them as fodder, because provided they are Democrat they will always get their vote. If you go on any Libtard Facebook page you'll see this among older, 40 year old white women or Boomers. But there's a growing movement of people tired of Democrat bullshit and Independents who want a new party that don't want to be involved with either side.

What it does mean is that a sleepy referendum had people willing to get out and vote. If you can't change things on a national level, you can start small. And this is how you start.
The fall of Roe really was a shock to the system, proving just how self-perpetuating and unhelpful government has become, to the point that it seems personally insulted by anyone who asks for results. - "You are a voter, your job is to vote, not tell us what to do!"
 
I'll summarize best I can:
"We retain the right to regulate or outright ban abortion, with the only exceptions being rape, incest, or if the life of the mother is threatened. We are asking you, the voter, if you agree on this."

It's obtuse but I understood it.

Considering Dems have dangled abortion for 40 years despite having sufficient time to protect it on a state by state level and changing opinions, younger voters who are galvanized by social media are giving the finger to the GOP and the VoteBlue crowd. Lots of Dem voters are saying Dems are using them as fodder, because provided they are Democrat they will always get their vote. If you go on any Libtard Facebook page you'll see this among older, 40 year old white women or Boomers. But there's a growing movement of people tired of Democrat bullshit and Independents who want a new party that don't want to be involved with either side.

What it does mean is that a sleepy referendum had people willing to get out and vote. If you can't change things on a national level, you can start small. And this is how you start.

Yeah, and you can't deny that this was low hanging fruit, so to speak. It was attempted overreach that even quite a few conservatives weren't happy about.
 
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