Then why'd you bring up the Indian residency school? Or was that another brainiac on this thread, I can't remember.
Mattogno I'm certain lies by omission. We know there are mass graves that have human remains apparently "so thick they can't be drilled through." You are correct that it was never secret--many Poles knew about the camps and even traded with the guards. That's how they knew where the remains were to search through.
Of course you can't remember. We've seen this again and again from you guys. You're so busy trying to abuse and obfuscate you forget who said what to who.
You're not certain of any such thing about Mattogno.
There are no mass graves that have human remains apparently so thick they can't be drilled through.
These camps are not enormous areas. If you want to look for valuables you'll just cover the disturbed ground. This has nothing to do with mass murder because that didn't happen for numerous documentary and technical reasons.
Why would they care about total cremation when total cremation costs more energy which they barely had?
Exactly, they wouldn't, because they didn't need to at all and in a massive conventional war the last thing they'd be doing is mass murder 'just because'.
Except all the times the mass graves from these massacres actually were found which alone disproves you and Mattogno's point.
There aren't any such times. Even Babi Yar was fake and that's supposed to be 30,000 people.
Nice autism, you know exactly what I mean. You know perfectly well governments use code all the time. Look at all the happy-sounded words the average government uses, even in internal documents. It's not unusual for the Nazis to do the same.
Oh you mean euphemism and such?
Sorry, that didn't happen either;
Example: Sonderbehandlung - not a code word.
Studied in detail here;
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So where were the 5.7 million Jews in interwar Poland and the USSR as attested by census reports in the 1930s that correlate with population growth in censuses that go back to 1897 Tsarist Russia? Of course they existed under Nazi control, even you admit that when you claim they were resettled.
They don't correlate with population growth at all. Those numbers give the jews a population growth rate double any other for the latter 19th century so it's fake. This is examined by Thomas Dalton in Debating the holocaust 2015.
That's not how international legal precedent works. A nation can't just say "I don't agree with it" and it ceases applying to them outside of cases like the Rome Statute or the times the US disregards international law. Some NSDAP thinkers also wanted the return of the German colonial empire which means that the Nazis implicitly accepted the human rights nominally codified in their former treaties with African chiefs (which IIRC were still in force until Africa's independence, and still can be used to this day in African courts).
It literally does mean exactly that. Countries, especially pre 45 had to agree to treaties and laws first. Anything else is an injustice imposition and your US example shows this clearly so congrats again. You played yourself.
Some Nazis indeed wanted the German colonies back. These were to be given back not by the African chiefs, but by the people who they would negotiate with I.e. Britain, France, the USA, and others who had taken these over post Versailles. For example Britain took over Tanzania, over the strong objections not of any African chiefs - but of Belgium……… Remember those guys?
No it wasn't as has been established by international precedent. It is not moral for a nation to do whatever it wants, because morality is not determined by what a nation's leadership says and does. For instance, bans on Holocaust denial are not moral, because bans on free speech are bad, but by your logic, it should be perfectly fine for Europe to ban denying the Holocaust.
I just told you that your precedents are no such thing. They are merely events that occured to some nations under some kings. This has nothing to do with nazis because they didn't sign up to anything like that.
Morality is not determined by sovereignty and thus authority?
Do you even recognise tribal and territorial morality? In group/ out group preference?
Ok, then what is it that morality is determined by?
This should be interesting.…
Out of context quote again, neglecting the context that Nazi policy was more flexible during the war and the Nazi Party itself had different strains of belief since Hitler was not call to settle every dispute (and NSDAP members could dispute with Hitler on issues). We have the documents declaring they desired the mass deportation of most Slavs (including the entire Polish nation) to Siberia. The Nazis despised Poland so much that in 1940 they outlawed the largest collaborationist party (whose members even pre-war had been pro-Hitler) and imprisoned or executed its leaders such as Andrzej Swietlicki. Meanwhile, the white emigres of Russia were sidelined because people like Vlasov and Kaminski were more easy to manipulate.
Here's a quote from Nazi propaganda regarding Poles. Not so much a "brotherhood of whiteness", eh?
You've got it backwards really. Hitler was pre disposed towards Slavs. He even expressed respect for Polish leader Gen. Sidulski and attended his funeral. This view was naturally soured with the course of the war but there was no grand murderous hatred of Slavs as ive clearly demonstrated and which you ignore. You accuse Hitler of hating Slavs for outlawing its parties during an occupation? LMAO. The whermact also killed alot of poles during the warsaw uprising. Still that didn't mean some grand murderous hatred of Slavs. Slavs were already working closely with the nazis. You seem to forget that the Slavs were germans closest neighbor's in most directions.
So an inmate at Auschwitz exaggerated the scale of what was happening and that makes everything he said wrong? That's human nature to overestimate and underestimate in a strenuous situation. Ends with an out of context quote. Yep, about par from your kind.
LMAO cope. So stressed he wrote a book with these distortions and then he admitted in court he had used "licentia poetarum".....
How Filip Muller? Who tells us that he ate food in the gas chamber.
The list of false and unreliable testimony from those who claim to have been in position to know what was going on is extensive. The difference between revisionists and your kind is that we're willing to go over it in detail.
Nobody responds to you for the same reason nobody responds to creationists or flat-earthers. Your beliefs are rooted in ideology, not facts and your debates consist of finding new ways to rephrase the same tired arguments every time. Your ideology fails on the basis of history, demography, logistics, culture, ideology, engineering, physics, and common sense.
Not really;
"Under the thrust of revisionist inquiries, their historians step by step have had to admit – that there was neither an order, nor a plan, nor a budget for the alleged genocide of the Jews;17
– that ‘Wannsee’ was at best only a “silly story”;18 – that there existed no specialist’s report on the weapon of the crime concluding that ‘the
building (whether intact, “reconstructed,” or in ruins) served as a homicidal gas chamber’;
– that there is no autopsy that would allow us to conclude: ‘This is the corpse of a deportee killed by poison gas’;
– that the confession of Rudolf Höß was no longer of any value (“Höß was always a very weak and confused witness”19);
– that their alleged witnesses had probably never seen gas chambers or gassings inasmuch as the best of them, the famous Rudolf Vrba, in 1985, had been obliged to admit before a Canadian judge and jury that in his famous book on the subject he had made use of “poetic licence” or “licentia poetarum”;20
– that the “Jewish soap” had never existed;21 – that the figure of four million victims at Auschwitz was only a fiction22;"
"In 1961, in the first edition of The Destruction of the European Jews (Quadrangle Books, Chicago, p. 177), Raul Hilberg calmly affirms the existence of an order (and even of two consecutive orders!) for the extermination of the Jews.
In 1985, in the second edition of his book (Holmes and Meier, New York), he totally changes his explanation of the facts; he no longer mentions any order; he writes that there was no “basic plan” (p. 53) and that “no single organization directed or coordinated the entire process [of destruction]” (p. 55); he adds: “No special agency was created and no special budget was devised to destroy the Jews of Europe” (p. 62). He explains the whole supposed business of the extermination of the Jews by thought transmission or telepathic divination within the German bureaucracy: “an incredible meeting of minds, a consensus-mind-reading by a far-flung bureaucracy” (remarks made in a lecture on 22 February 1983 and confirmed by R. Hilberg at the time of his cross-examination during the Zündel Trial in Toronto in 1985, per shorthand transcription, pp. 846-84
!"
And get this
"Shmuel Krakowski, archives director of Yad Vashem, and Professor Yehuda Bauer finally admitted in 1990 that “the Nazis never made soap from human fat,” The Jerusalem Post International Edition, 5 May 1990.
In a cemetery of Nice (France), there is a monument which bears the following inscription: “This urn contains soap from human fat manufactured by the Germans of the Third Reich with the bodies of our deported brothers.”
G Rudolf Dissecting the holocaust page 12.
Except all of your claims rely on the usual distortions. You distort how Zyklon B works and was administered, you distort who it was administered too (men, women, and children of all ages), you distort how it was operated (like they honestly cared about the dangerous work Sonderkommandos did). Once you distort enough, you win.
Who tells you this rubbish?
We don't distort how zyklon b works, revisionism exposed how it actually works, and how the administration of it works and how long that takes - I literally showed you pics of the real gas chambers.
I even showed you pics of jews in Auschwitz. The men, the women, the children. There is no distortion. This thread has detailed the health records and the state of the art treatment given to the people in Auschwitz.
As for how it was operated, revisionists not only examine the use of zyklon b they examined the development of the stories about all the other "murder weapons " from steam to electricity, to diesel then lastly to gasoline - changing again and again over time to try and fit the details closer to the lie they want to tell.
As for sonderkommandos, they had to care about them for all that work were supposed to do in the fake story but also in the real work they actually did.
The need to, and the orders to, care for inmates is well documented in this thread.
Think about it, even Elie Weasel, the author of Night, when the Nazis left Auschwitz, he could have stayed but he chose to go with the Nazis.
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