Disaster The Hard-Drug Decriminalization Disaster - How soon is too soon to call a progressive and libertarian policy obsession a public policy fiasco?

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Amanda Lucier for The New York Times

How soon is too soon to call a progressive and libertarian policy obsession a public policy fiasco? In the case of Oregon’s Drug Addiction Treatment and Recovery Act, better known as Measure 110, the moment can’t come soon enough.

In 2020, Oregon voters approved, with 58 percent in favor, a measure to decriminalize possession of small amounts of hard drugs such as cocaine, heroin and methamphetamine and establish a drug-treatment program funded by tax revenue from marijuana sales. Those caught with less than a gram of heroin or less than two grams of meth are issued the equivalent of a traffic ticket, with a $100 fine that can be waived by calling a treatment referral number and agreeing to participate in a health assessment.

Supporters of the measure called it a huge first step and a paradigm-shifting win that would bring down overdose rates, lessen the spread of disease, reduce racial inequities and make it easier for addicts to seek out treatment. The Drug Policy Alliance, which spent millions to help pass the measure, called it “the biggest blow to the drug war to date” and celebrated its supposed success in a slick video.

Now comes the reality check.

“On her walk to work at Forte Portland, a coffee shop and wine bar that she operates with her brother in the sunken lobby of a commercial building, Jennifer Myrle sidesteps needles, shattered glass and human feces,” The Times’s Jan Hoffman reported this week, alongside an extraordinary photo essay from the photographer Jordan Gale. “Often, she says, someone is passed out in front of the lobby’s door, blocking her entrance. The other day, a man lurched in, lay down on a Forte couch, stripped off his shirt and shoes and refused to leave.”

Other scenes the piece describes and depicts:

A woman who, according to Myrle, performed oral sex on a man at 11:30 in the morning on a block between Target and Nordstrom.

A police officer handing out toothless citations to addicts shooting up in public, sometimes, the officer said, on playgrounds.

A list of the reasons a fentanyl and meth addict named Noah Nethers likes Portland: “He can do drugs wherever he wants, and the cops no longer harass him. There are more dealers, scouting for fresh customers moving to paradise. That means drugs are plentiful and cheap.” (Not as idyllic: “Folks in nearby tents, high on meth, hit him with baseball bats.”)

What these anecdotes suggest, the data confirms. In 2019 there were 280 unintentional opioid overdose deaths in Oregon. In 2021 there were 745. In 2019 there were 413 shooting incidents in Portland. In 2022 there were 1,309. (Numbers have abated a bit this year.) Of the 4,000 drug use citations issued in Oregon during the first two years of Measure 110, The Economist found, only 40 people called the hotline and were interested in treatment. “It has cost taxpayers $7,000 a call,” The Economist reported. The number of people living on the street in Multnomah County, which includes Portland, rose by 29 percent from January 2022 to January 2023.

In their defense, proponents of Measure 110 — support for which has plummeted — argue that decriminalization is still in its early days and funds for harm reduction, housing and other services have been slow to arrive. Some also point to Portugal, which decriminalized hard drugs for personal use in 2001 to great fanfare, as an example of what decriminalization has achieved over time.

So how is that going?

Not so well, as suggested in a report last month by The Washington Post’s Anthony Faiola and Catarina Fernandes Martins. The number of adults using drugs in Portugal shot up to 12.8 percent in 2022, from 7.8 percent the year the policy began. Overdose rates in Lisbon have doubled in the last four years. The police blame drugs for a rise in crime. In the city of Porto, drug use is contributing to a steep decline in the quality of urban life. The number of people obtaining treatment fell by nearly 70 percent between 2015 and 2021. The dissuasion commissions that were supposed to encourage people to seek help no longer play much of a role.

Here, too, defenders of the system point to funding shortfalls, especially for treatment. But the sticky fact that proponents of decriminalization rarely confront is that addicts are not merely sick people trying to get well, like cancer sufferers in need of chemotherapy. They are people who often will do just about anything to get high, however irrational, self-destructive or, in some cases, criminal their behavior becomes. Addiction may be a disease, but it’s also a lifestyle — one that decriminalization does a lot to facilitate. It’s easier to get high wherever and however you want when the cops are powerless to stop you.

Some readers of this column will respond that, whatever the problems in Portland or Portugal, we don’t want to return to the cost, violence and apparent fruitlessness of the old war on drugs. But that depends on whether the price of endless war exceeds or falls short of the price of permanent surrender.

To judge by the catastrophe unfolding in Oregon, I’d think twice before replicating this reckless experiment elsewhere.

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The tone deafness of these articles makes me lol soo hard: why do you want drugs to be decriminalized? because it puts on display how retarded your metropolitan areas are compared to the rest of the country. it puts on display how the coddling your local junkie nonsense doesnt work at all. if youre going to baby them it doesnt matter if drugs are or arent legal. this is just how cities work.
In rural oregon: I havent seen one fucking drug dealer in a year of living here other than two old dudes selling eachother mushrooms at a park one of them literally grew himself. I have only seen ONE od in public vs the dozen or so I saw in GA in like 6 months. oh and I havent seen a single fent zombie in any rural area.
in rural areas the locals dont suck a junkies asshole for wokegibs and virtue signaling points which also goes a long way towards not enabling the actual addicts.
In fact 9/10 the ppl writing these articles are angy that some liberal shit stain stole their gov gibs via some stupid homeless program vs incarceration. its all about money in the end.
edit: reminder that we didnt have a drug problem in the '20s when literally everyone and your mother was smoking weed or buying fucking cocaine and heroin directly from bayer and J&J. A junkie back then was unheard of
 
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All drugs do is drive people to homelessness. And our politicians encourage it. These people get off on suffering
 
In rural oregon: I havent seen one fucking drug dealer in a year of living here other than two old dudes selling eachother mushrooms at a park one of them literally grew himself. I have only seen ONE od in public vs the dozen or so I saw in GA in like 6 months. oh and I havent seen a single fent zombie in any rural area.

yes. I don't think a person could believe that you could have the total dystopia of Eugene/Salem/Portland so close to the pretty, well-governed small towns of the rest of western OR without seeing it. I was driving around Marion County this weekend and it was just so clear that Eugene/Salem/Portland is a containment zone for all the insanity. It is like being on a different planet. Then I get back to Lane County and it's junkies as far as the eye can see.
 
I don't know how anybody could have seen the social and economic costs of alcohol and conclude legalizing other hard drugs would not bring the same kinds of added costs. There is a world of difference between cannabis, and other psychoactive plants vs. these drugs. For me, the #1 criteria when evaluating a drug is whether or not it causes physical dependence with significant withdrawal (as opposed to just psychological).

And yes, alcohol is a hard drug. It is a highly addictive and toxic chemical with powerful psychoactive effects that can fuck up anybody, possibly permanently, if they aren't careful.

AA and other 12-Step programs have done some good things but this pernicious and dangerous myth started with them, namely that there are people who can drink normally and "alcoholics" who can't. Anybody can become addicted to alcohol if they misuse it, some are just more susceptible faster.
 
Some readers of this column will respond that, whatever the problems in Portland or Portugal, we don’t want to return to the cost, violence and apparent fruitlessness of the old war on drugs. But that depends on whether the price of endless war exceeds or falls short of the price of permanent surrender.

So much this! So often with prog feel-good ideas, society is pushed to completely ignore the full picture. They scream and hyperventilate at the exaggerated alternative to their ideas, but nobody, particularly in the media, academia and local gov, are quick to weigh the actual costs of their ideas against anything else. This is one of the big reasons I think the "progressive" title is partly apt for the movement. Since it's so often blind change being pushed, with no evaluation, weighing of costs or different options. Just intransigent, hysterical insistence that something gets done.

Or to put it more simply.. One can't fall off a cliff unless they progress over its edge. This is all to say that it is a completely value neutral term in and of itself. To progress means nothing outside of context.
 
Decriminalize posession while executing dealers. It works for Singapore, and it can work for us if the political will were to foment.
 
The problem isn't really the drugs; it's the combination of drugs with the societal safety nets. The fact that people that work for a living have to pay for most addicts' living allowance, then have to pay to have them removed from the streets, then have to pay for their medical care and rehabilitation is utterly unsustainable.

I have libertarian tendencies, in general, if someone wants to do fentanyl, I'd say let them. But (and that's a Lizzo sized but), if I have to pay for everything on both sides of the fucking equation, then, no it should be illegal, and the punishments should be draconian.
 
The problem is not drugs, not alcohol, not poverty, not homelessness, etc. These are symptoms. The problem is THAT dude. The problem is each individual that can't keep his shit together. Society needs to stop treating them like victims and start dealing with individual shitbags as the root cause.
 
The libertarian Hans Hermann Hoppe argued that counterproductive people are a decivilizing force on a society and should be ridiculed and marginalized for the good of the society. The factory owner or store owner has a service which is constructive and productive to society and civilization. However, a person getting high and overdosing on fentanyl isn't productive.

It is exploitation for productive and sober Americans to pay for the failures of degenerate druggies. Libertarianism only works when unproductive or counterproductive elements of society are pushed out or not enabled. Lolberts who want delegalized drugs want a decivilized and degenerated society that bows to the whims to counterproductive classes.
 
The libertarian Hans Hermann Hoppe argued that counterproductive people are a decivilizing force on a society and should be ridiculed and marginalized for the good of the society. The factory owner or store owner has a service which is constructive and productive to society and civilization. However, a person getting high and overdosing on fentanyl isn't productive.

It is exploitation for productive and sober Americans to pay for the failures of degenerate druggies. Libertarianism only works when unproductive or counterproductive elements of society are pushed out or not enabled. Lolberts who want delegalized drugs want a decivilized and degenerated society that bows to the whims to counterproductive classes.
to be fair, the hardline libertarian "legalize everything" approach usually goes hand in hand with a hardline "abolish the welfare state" demand as well, which means that the junkie problem quickly takes care of itself because their options are now limited to
>become criminal, which means they eventually get thrown in prison or get shot dead for trying to step on the wrong snek
>get your shit together and stop being a junkie
>starve to death or die of aids because no handouts and no health insurance

it only becomes a real problem when you legalize drugs while also having a welfare state that enables the parasitic lifestyle of drug addicts and a legal system that turns a blind eye to their criminality. that's what allows them to keep living like this for decades, that's what allows their numbers to grow.
 
Compromise solution: drugs are completely legal but you can kill anyone doing them in public (maybe not marijuana?).
 
Stop reviving junkies when they OD, that will go a long way to solving the problem. Just say "No, man!" to NARCAN!

it only becomes a real problem when you legalize drugs while also having a welfare state that enables the parasitic lifestyle of drug addicts and a legal system that turns a blind eye to their criminality. that's what allows them to keep living like this for decades, that's what allows their numbers to grow.
While I don't think this has been studied, using common sense it's hard to argue against the notion that a bunch of welfare leeches with drug problems aren't cranking out sub-IQ babies prone to impulsive criminal behavior given all the shit they're putting in their bodies, and the decent chances that they will do plenty of damage before they know they are pregnant, :optimistic:even assuming they do proper prenatal care once they can no longer ignore the pregnancy:optimistic:.
 
In 2019 there were 280 unintentional opioid overdose deaths in Oregon. In 2021 there were 745. In 2019 there were 413 shooting incidents in Portland. In 2022 there were 1,309.
It really is wild how little time it takes for unchecked leftism to completely fucking destroy an entire city. There were medieval sieges that lasted longer than this and had less of a damaging effect.
 
I don't know how anybody could have seen the social and economic costs of alcohol and conclude legalizing other hard drugs would not bring the same kinds of added costs. There is a world of difference between cannabis, and other psychoactive plants vs. these drugs. For me, the #1 criteria when evaluating a drug is whether or not it causes physical dependence with significant withdrawal (as opposed to just psychological).

And yes, alcohol is a hard drug. It is a highly addictive and toxic chemical with powerful psychoactive effects that can fuck up anybody, possibly permanently, if they aren't careful.

AA and other 12-Step programs have done some good things but this pernicious and dangerous myth started with them, namely that there are people who can drink normally and "alcoholics" who can't. Anybody can become addicted to alcohol if they misuse it, some are just more susceptible faster.
Are you an alocholic? I've been drinking forever and I've never been addicted. Like I had like one beer in the past week. Even when I drink a lot on rare occassions, I don't become addicted becuase I get ovfer the hangover and go back to normal life. This is autistic nonsense. It's been 100 percent proven that USA is fine with alcohol being legal like thas been in other countries for hundreds of years longer. This is like banning cars because of bad drivers. You're just another autistic control freak that can't comprehnd that not everyone is as broken as you are.
 
While I don't think this has been studied, using common sense it's hard to argue against the notion that a bunch of welfare leeches with drug problems aren't cranking out sub-IQ babies prone to impulsive criminal behavior given all the shit they're putting in their bodies, and the decent chances that they will do plenty of damage before they know they are pregnant, :optimistic:even assuming they do proper prenatal care once they can no longer ignore the pregnancy:optimistic:.
I'm for sterilizing drug addicts if they're frequent flyers with the police and ER. If you're on suboxone or something like that, birth control(like an IUD, not pills) should be mandatory.
 
Are you an alocholic? I've been drinking forever and I've never been addicted. Like I had like one beer in the past week. Even when I drink a lot on rare occassions, I don't become addicted becuase I get ovfer the hangover and go back to normal life. This is autistic nonsense. It's been 100 percent proven that USA is fine with alcohol being legal like thas been in other countries for hundreds of years longer. This is like banning cars because of bad drivers. You're just another autistic control freak that can't comprehnd that not everyone is as broken as you are.
I don't support alcohol being illegal and use it myself, but you're deluding yourself if you think you could never become addicted to it. People have also used cocaine and opiates without becoming addicted but that doesn't mean you're not gambling with that risk if you use them. It's up to you to make that decision based upon your personal experience with substances, not mine, but it's important to respect what you put into your body.

Alcohol is inherently addictive because of the way the chemical works in your brain. It's extremely similar to benzodiazepines, which is why benzos are used to treat alcohol withdrawal. If you use this substance too much and too frequently especially if you have other problems concurrent in your life you will start to develop psychological and then physical dependence.

And unlike other drugs, even crack, meth or heroin, alcohol and benzodiazepine withdrawal can be lethal. Something like 25% of alcohol users develop alcohol use disorder during their lives (to the point of requiring medical treatment/diagnosis) so it is far from uncommon among people who consume that drug.

Just be careful, which it sounds like you are.
 
I don't support alcohol being illegal and use it myself, but you're deluding yourself if you think you could never become addicted to it. People have also used cocaine and opiates without becoming addicted but that doesn't mean you're not gambling with that risk if you use them. It's up to you to make that decision based upon your personal experience with substances, not mine, but it's important to respect what you put into your body.

Alcohol is inherently addictive because of the way the chemical works in your brain. It's extremely similar to benzodiazepines, which is why benzos are used to treat alcohol withdrawal. If you use this substance too much and too frequently especially if you have other problems concurrent in your life you will start to develop psychological and then physical dependence.

And unlike other drugs, even crack, meth or heroin, alcohol and benzodiazepine withdrawal can be lethal. Something like 25% of alcohol users develop alcohol use disorder during their lives (to the point of requiring medical treatment/diagnosis) so it is far from uncommon among people who consume that drug.

Just be careful, which it sounds like you are.
I can't become addicted to alcohol. I'm old enough and drank enough to know. It's not happening. Fuck sometimes I don't drink because it makes me feel tired. That's not addictive. lol That's what people like you don't understand. Broken people with addictive personalities become addicted to these things and get the associated health problems. I mean sure some drugs are more likely to create a chemical dependency, I wouldn't' say the same for heroin or whatever, but fuck off when it comes to arguing alcohol is the same. This is part of the retarded alt-internet mindset where retards also want to ban gambling, candy, porn, etc. because they don't get that they're not normal and normal people have control with these things.

You say you don't want it banned, but you are circulating the propaganda. Even your elderly aunt probably has cocktails or wine every week. This kind of opinion just tells me you are are either very biased or have lack of real social interaction with normals. I'm never going to concede this, it's horse shit. Fuck no one in my family, social circle or even my SO's family or social circle is an alcoholic and they all drink from time to time. And I'm tired of going into threads here about hard drugs to only see some autist sperging out over drinks. Makes me feel like I'm in an adult daycare with Chris Chan.
 
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