Disaster The Hard-Drug Decriminalization Disaster - How soon is too soon to call a progressive and libertarian policy obsession a public policy fiasco?

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Amanda Lucier for The New York Times

How soon is too soon to call a progressive and libertarian policy obsession a public policy fiasco? In the case of Oregon’s Drug Addiction Treatment and Recovery Act, better known as Measure 110, the moment can’t come soon enough.

In 2020, Oregon voters approved, with 58 percent in favor, a measure to decriminalize possession of small amounts of hard drugs such as cocaine, heroin and methamphetamine and establish a drug-treatment program funded by tax revenue from marijuana sales. Those caught with less than a gram of heroin or less than two grams of meth are issued the equivalent of a traffic ticket, with a $100 fine that can be waived by calling a treatment referral number and agreeing to participate in a health assessment.

Supporters of the measure called it a huge first step and a paradigm-shifting win that would bring down overdose rates, lessen the spread of disease, reduce racial inequities and make it easier for addicts to seek out treatment. The Drug Policy Alliance, which spent millions to help pass the measure, called it “the biggest blow to the drug war to date” and celebrated its supposed success in a slick video.

Now comes the reality check.

“On her walk to work at Forte Portland, a coffee shop and wine bar that she operates with her brother in the sunken lobby of a commercial building, Jennifer Myrle sidesteps needles, shattered glass and human feces,” The Times’s Jan Hoffman reported this week, alongside an extraordinary photo essay from the photographer Jordan Gale. “Often, she says, someone is passed out in front of the lobby’s door, blocking her entrance. The other day, a man lurched in, lay down on a Forte couch, stripped off his shirt and shoes and refused to leave.”

Other scenes the piece describes and depicts:

A woman who, according to Myrle, performed oral sex on a man at 11:30 in the morning on a block between Target and Nordstrom.

A police officer handing out toothless citations to addicts shooting up in public, sometimes, the officer said, on playgrounds.

A list of the reasons a fentanyl and meth addict named Noah Nethers likes Portland: “He can do drugs wherever he wants, and the cops no longer harass him. There are more dealers, scouting for fresh customers moving to paradise. That means drugs are plentiful and cheap.” (Not as idyllic: “Folks in nearby tents, high on meth, hit him with baseball bats.”)

What these anecdotes suggest, the data confirms. In 2019 there were 280 unintentional opioid overdose deaths in Oregon. In 2021 there were 745. In 2019 there were 413 shooting incidents in Portland. In 2022 there were 1,309. (Numbers have abated a bit this year.) Of the 4,000 drug use citations issued in Oregon during the first two years of Measure 110, The Economist found, only 40 people called the hotline and were interested in treatment. “It has cost taxpayers $7,000 a call,” The Economist reported. The number of people living on the street in Multnomah County, which includes Portland, rose by 29 percent from January 2022 to January 2023.

In their defense, proponents of Measure 110 — support for which has plummeted — argue that decriminalization is still in its early days and funds for harm reduction, housing and other services have been slow to arrive. Some also point to Portugal, which decriminalized hard drugs for personal use in 2001 to great fanfare, as an example of what decriminalization has achieved over time.

So how is that going?

Not so well, as suggested in a report last month by The Washington Post’s Anthony Faiola and Catarina Fernandes Martins. The number of adults using drugs in Portugal shot up to 12.8 percent in 2022, from 7.8 percent the year the policy began. Overdose rates in Lisbon have doubled in the last four years. The police blame drugs for a rise in crime. In the city of Porto, drug use is contributing to a steep decline in the quality of urban life. The number of people obtaining treatment fell by nearly 70 percent between 2015 and 2021. The dissuasion commissions that were supposed to encourage people to seek help no longer play much of a role.

Here, too, defenders of the system point to funding shortfalls, especially for treatment. But the sticky fact that proponents of decriminalization rarely confront is that addicts are not merely sick people trying to get well, like cancer sufferers in need of chemotherapy. They are people who often will do just about anything to get high, however irrational, self-destructive or, in some cases, criminal their behavior becomes. Addiction may be a disease, but it’s also a lifestyle — one that decriminalization does a lot to facilitate. It’s easier to get high wherever and however you want when the cops are powerless to stop you.

Some readers of this column will respond that, whatever the problems in Portland or Portugal, we don’t want to return to the cost, violence and apparent fruitlessness of the old war on drugs. But that depends on whether the price of endless war exceeds or falls short of the price of permanent surrender.

To judge by the catastrophe unfolding in Oregon, I’d think twice before replicating this reckless experiment elsewhere.

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and establish a drug-treatment program funded by tax revenue
Found the problem.
the hardline libertarian "legalize everything" approach usually goes hand in hand with a hardline "abolish the welfare state" demand as well, which means that the junkie problem quickly takes care of itself because their options are now limited to
>become criminal, which means they eventually get thrown in prison or get shot dead for trying to step on the wrong snek
>get your shit together and stop being a junkie
>starve to death or die of aids because no handouts and no health insurance

it only becomes a real problem when you legalize drugs while also having a welfare state that enables the parasitic lifestyle of drug addicts and a legal system that turns a blind eye to their criminality. that's what allows them to keep living like this for decades, that's what allows their numbers to grow.
Showed up to say pretty much this, yeah. Drug users who can't keep their shit together sort themselves out quickly one way or another in a land without free naloxone shots or taxpayer-funded methadone clinics.

And as the first poster pointed out this is a metropolitan problem, and it's likely that decriminalization isn't the problem, it's the local homeless population who'd be carrying on like this anyhow. It's not like San Diego or San Fransisco have a lack of meth-heads and crack addicts compared to Portland.
 
The drug war is yet another problem gifted to us by niggers (seriously, the history of mass drug control in America has been "how can we stop nigs from giving weed/coke/heroin to white kids" over and over again) , now it's become part of our niggered-up society and we all have to deal with it.

On the one hand, the liberal legalization thing is retarded because the people running it are the same, but on the other, crying about how a few cities and one fake gay country legalized and it didn't work immediately is also retarded. This is a huge social problem that is now culturally ingrained, and on top of that it's a symptom of social alienation and other psychological problems that exist upstream of the corner boy in the first place.

An actual effective initiative has to be widespread, well-funded, and most importantly it can't just stop because people don't like it or they think it's not working. 10 years isn't even a full generation. Portland is a fractional percentage of the US population. That's the definition of half measures right there, including the implementation - OK you stopped locking junkies up, but what about the rest? How about some serious interdiction efforts? How about organizing community watches to keep the dealers away? Immigration controls? Welfare reforms? Eugenics? Anything?

No let's just say it's legal now and complain when junkies go on the loose. Most junkies (IIRC around 70%) never really recover. I would think that rate is even higher among the extreme hard drug homeless crowd. MAny of these people are fucked for life, which makes the "let them die" argument actually hold some water. "Execute drug dealers" is a tougher one to implement well but it could be done with the political will and a serious legal system... though the collateral damage involved won't be acceptable in an individualist western nation.
 
There's a great study about heroin addicts during the Vietnam War who completely lost their addiction when they returned to the US that is definitely worth reading.

I wish everyone whose experience with drugs was over 50% reading would just stop posting about it, it's worse than people who have opinions on sex based primarily on porn

you're wildly conflating physical addiction with the completely fake and thoroughly gay "use disorder." this kind of fuzzyheaded thinking is what has landed us in the mess we are currently in.

physical addiction to alcohol is extremely dangerous. physical addiction to heroin is not.

but what's more important is that everything else associated with drug use, every single other factor, is moral. It is not medical, i it is not even a little medical. People engage in "use disorder" behaviors because they are *selfish assholes.* And even the medical, physical aspects of drug use have huge moral components. Soldiers returning from Vietnam (fucking everyone knows about this, also, it's not special knowledge) mostly kicked because they were mostly regular people who ended up with a habit because of circumstances. Your unfriendly neighborhood junkie doesn't kick for the same reasons he started using in the first place. He's an asshole.
 
Got bad news for you. Decriminalizing drugs will not stop the cartels and various organizations from flooding the streets with the chems illegally let alone encourage them to participate in your broken-ass society. Because alot of legal medicine requires tons of paperwork to grab when Jamal and Hsu down the street have no problems giving you the smack you need for a fee. Not to mention, its much cheaper to bribe a cop and/or pay a fine than it is to be a legal business.

Make no mistake, a good chunk of the illegal drug distributors are backed by various organizations and countries out to screw over the US. After all, your enemy can't mount a good defense when they're too fucked up. Or in this case, busy with dealing with the druggies.

There is also the very real issue of said illegal chems snaking their way into legal meds and fucking up regular patients as well. Unironically, criminalizing these drugs is one of the ways to keep the wrong meds away from regular people who aren't crazy vagrants who are obsessed with killing themselves slowly.


Vid related.
 
Make no mistake, a good chunk of the illegal drug distributors are backed by various organizations and countries out to screw over the US.
Yea like the CIA, DEA, and FBI.
criminalizing these drugs is one of the ways to keep the wrong meds away from regular people
Except for all of those people it doesn't keep from using them.
 
Not to get too autistic about this, but yeah we absolutely had a drug problem in the 1920's. That's the decade most of this stuff got banned at the federal level (The Harrison Act was in the mid-1910's, basically the start of federal drug prohibition, with heroine outlawed entirely by 1924 and Cocaine was heavily regulated by 1922). Many state governments and cities were banning Cocaine well before the 1920's, specifically because of how many black men were addicts. I think Georgia banned Cocaine in 1906, due to "black cocaine fiends" raping white women (supposedly).

Europe was more into Ether during that time, especially young children, though Britain was also banning Heroin and other opiates by 1920 and "cracking" down on cocaine before that.

Really, the US has had a major junkie problem since the Civil War, when morphine addiction exploded among veterans of the war.
I see the point you're making but you're 100% incorrect on the grounds that you generally didn't live long enough to become what we know to be a junkie today.

Enabling is the primary factor in the US and UK: were Soo good at enabling junkies that we created and promote dxm vs codeine bc reasons. go try to find regular plain ass robotussin anywhere. If they have any in stock it's generally behind the counter or under lock and key: it's like the most abused medicine on the planet no one talks about.

We are also almost certain that Shakespeare was a opioid abuser but again defining an addict in that era vs now is a wholly inaccurate comparison. Like many ppl consumed 2-5% alcoholic beverages daily as their primary water source in some areas just bc it was potable.
 
to be fair, the hardline libertarian "legalize everything" approach usually goes hand in hand with a hardline "abolish the welfare state" demand as well, which means that the junkie problem quickly takes care of itself because their options are now limited to
>become criminal, which means they eventually get thrown in prison or get shot dead for trying to step on the wrong snek
>get your shit together and stop being a junkie
>starve to death or die of aids because no handouts and no health insurance

it only becomes a real problem when you legalize drugs while also having a welfare state that enables the parasitic lifestyle of drug addicts and a legal system that turns a blind eye to their criminality. that's what allows them to keep living like this for decades, that's what allows their numbers to grow.
To be fair you don't need to ban welfare just narkan every single zombie on the streets in video interviews admitting they overdosed at least few times heck there was article in here about woman overdosing 100 times it was so bad the first i read stalin to say mercy flight.
 
Drug addicts should be civilly committed like sex offenders. Follow the McNeil Island model. That way you can decriminalize drugs, they don't get a criminal record, but they still get locked up for the rest of their lives.
 
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