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That last photo. That thumbs up. Sweet Jesus, he packed in so much delicious retard that eclipses the whole comic combined.
Interesting that the re- word is filtered to exceptional individual.
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That last photo. That thumbs up. Sweet Jesus, he packed in so much delicious retard that eclipses the whole comic combined.
Interesting that the re- word is filtered to exceptional individual.
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This is awful. It's so terribly bad. I don't even know where to start "reviewing".
Thank you sikotik for spending your time and money on bringing us this treasure trove of fail.
This whole comic has crashed down through the lower levels of my expectations in terms of quality.
I don't think I can work systematically on this. Metaphorically, I'm just going to wander around the landfill that is this comic and pick up various interesting bits of trash and point at them.
Firstly, as others have pointed out, The Cat. As soon as Young Self-Insert picked up the poorly-drawn beast I sensed tragedy. To have it graphically decapitated by the villain was bad enough. To then have the supposed hero dismiss the cat as nothing to get upset about was a fatal mistake. Jay the character is now irredeemable to me. I'm currently sketching out a story in which the cat is revived as part of an experimental supersoldier programme. With enhanced intelligence and a cybernetic body, RoboCat is tasked with silently tracking down and eliminating a certain nuclear-powered psychopath.
Secondly, Jay fails at epic. Hard. When I read the profile of Dark Guardian, I notice that his trademark weapon is a "planet-sized singularity". (I'm not even going to get into the science here, but I have to point out that by definition a singularity has a size of 0. It is infinitely small. Dammit Jay) So basically Dark Guardian is packing a black hole gun, whereas Caucasian Guardian has access to 'infinite nuclear energy'. Can you imagine just how awesome a fight between two superhuman combatants with this sort of weaponry could be? Yet nothing approaching awesome is even hinted at. The fight scenes, such that there are, flop to the extreme.
Thirdly, Jay fails hard at character creation. His OC here and in An Hero Team is called Jay, and is a sadistic badass supersolider with a foot fetish. Actually, I'll pause for a second here. Jay Geis created a five-year-old character who is explicitly sadistic and has a foot fetish. (Were those kids in episode 1...tickling...him?) Compare this with Sonichu - although Sonichu himself is a lazy cut-and-shut recolour, at least Chris didn't make himself the titular character, and gave his electric hedgehogs the spotlight for a couple of issues before his own Mary Sue started pushing it.
Which brings me to point four. This whole thing is basically "my brother smells poopy: the comic". It's so incredibly petulant. Dark Guardian's weakness is "sibling insecurity". The butthurt over "Dot" probably happened when Jay was about 5 himself - so more than 15 years ago - but it's being used as what passes for a plot in what is essentially a trollfic. Yes, Jay Geis is a troll and he writes troll fiction.
Consider too that his mother was heavily involved in the creation of this. Not only is she fine with her son putting his sibling rivalry on display in a 'work' which takes constant swipes at her other son, she's encouraging her son to market what any normal person can see is an embarrassingly bad comic which will rightly be ridiculed by those who encounter it. Either she thinks she's being loving by supporting something she sees as doomed but harmless, or she actually thinks this is something the public would buy, in which case she entirely lacks the perspective to be a good editor.
There is absolutely nothing that I've seen in the 32 pages of Pilot Epic that I found entertaining for reasons other than schadenfreude. Jay Geis can not draw appealing characters. Jay Geis can not lay out a comic in an attractive way. Jay Geis can not write good, memorable dialogue. Jay Geis can not create an engaging storyline. Jay Geis can not recognise when something he puts into his work will shock, nauseate or offend people so that they don't want to read any more of his work.
We are not a cabal of poisonous hateful trolls who tear down everything that's good. There is a long thread on this forum where people post examples of other people's art that they enjoy and appreciate. When something is good, we recognise it. There are people on here that clearly spend a lot of time and money supporting the artists and products they enjoy.
The Clash gave some blunt but valuable advice to struggling artists in the song Death or Glory: "If you've been trying for years, we already heard your song". It's not us, Jay, it's you. Find something you're good at, and do that. You won't get an army of fans and your own convention - this or any other way.
Thank you sikotik for spending your time and money on bringing us this treasure trove of fail.
This whole comic has crashed down through the lower levels of my expectations in terms of quality.
I don't think I can work systematically on this. Metaphorically, I'm just going to wander around the landfill that is this comic and pick up various interesting bits of trash and point at them.
Firstly, as others have pointed out, The Cat. As soon as Young Self-Insert picked up the poorly-drawn beast I sensed tragedy. To have it graphically decapitated by the villain was bad enough. To then have the supposed hero dismiss the cat as nothing to get upset about was a fatal mistake. Jay the character is now irredeemable to me. I'm currently sketching out a story in which the cat is revived as part of an experimental supersoldier programme. With enhanced intelligence and a cybernetic body, RoboCat is tasked with silently tracking down and eliminating a certain nuclear-powered psychopath.
Secondly, Jay fails at epic. Hard. When I read the profile of Dark Guardian, I notice that his trademark weapon is a "planet-sized singularity". (I'm not even going to get into the science here, but I have to point out that by definition a singularity has a size of 0. It is infinitely small. Dammit Jay) So basically Dark Guardian is packing a black hole gun, whereas Caucasian Guardian has access to 'infinite nuclear energy'. Can you imagine just how awesome a fight between two superhuman combatants with this sort of weaponry could be? Yet nothing approaching awesome is even hinted at. The fight scenes, such that there are, flop to the extreme.
Thirdly, Jay fails hard at character creation. His OC here and in An Hero Team is called Jay, and is a sadistic badass supersolider with a foot fetish. Actually, I'll pause for a second here. Jay Geis created a five-year-old character who is explicitly sadistic and has a foot fetish. (Were those kids in episode 1...tickling...him?) Compare this with Sonichu - although Sonichu himself is a lazy cut-and-shut recolour, at least Chris didn't make himself the titular character, and gave his electric hedgehogs the spotlight for a couple of issues before his own Mary Sue started pushing it.
Which brings me to point four. This whole thing is basically "my brother smells poopy: the comic". It's so incredibly petulant. Dark Guardian's weakness is "sibling insecurity". The butthurt over "Dot" probably happened when Jay was about 5 himself - so more than 15 years ago - but it's being used as what passes for a plot in what is essentially a trollfic. Yes, Jay Geis is a troll and he writes troll fiction.
Consider too that his mother was heavily involved in the creation of this. Not only is she fine with her son putting his sibling rivalry on display in a 'work' which takes constant swipes at her other son, she's encouraging her son to market what any normal person can see is an embarrassingly bad comic which will rightly be ridiculed by those who encounter it. Either she thinks she's being loving by supporting something she sees as doomed but harmless, or she actually thinks this is something the public would buy, in which case she entirely lacks the perspective to be a good editor.
There is absolutely nothing that I've seen in the 32 pages of Pilot Epic that I found entertaining for reasons other than schadenfreude. Jay Geis can not draw appealing characters. Jay Geis can not lay out a comic in an attractive way. Jay Geis can not write good, memorable dialogue. Jay Geis can not create an engaging storyline. Jay Geis can not recognise when something he puts into his work will shock, nauseate or offend people so that they don't want to read any more of his work.
We are not a cabal of poisonous hateful trolls who tear down everything that's good. There is a long thread on this forum where people post examples of other people's art that they enjoy and appreciate. When something is good, we recognise it. There are people on here that clearly spend a lot of time and money supporting the artists and products they enjoy.
The Clash gave some blunt but valuable advice to struggling artists in the song Death or Glory: "If you've been trying for years, we already heard your song". It's not us, Jay, it's you. Find something you're good at, and do that. You won't get an army of fans and your own convention - this or any other way.
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The interesting thing with the cat's death is it shows how ruthless the villain and shows the death of an innocent that should fuel the hero's desire to defeat the villain. Because they are just kids it would make sense that the villain wouldn't murder an innocent kid to keep the story kind of age appropriate but Little Jay's dismissal of the dead cat is equal to an adult Jay dismissing the death of an innocent bystander and going whatever he just got in the way. So the hero is certainly not very likeable and instead of the story being about black and white we learn Jay is a grey character. So this isn't a quest for justice or good but just to satiate Jay's need for violence and combat. Basically there is no hero in this tale just a maniac fighting an evil character that has zero reason to be evil besides being a dick.
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I like how the block between Jay's self insert and totally-not-his-brother is labeled 'CONCRETE'. Just incase you couldn't tell what it was.
I know I shouldn't really be too suprised by the cat killing scene as this is GK we're talking about, but why would he include that and why would he think that his self-insert casually dismissing the death of an animal to be a relatable, heroic thing?
Oh yeah, because he's Jay Geis. Of course. Silly me.
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@Absinthe Wonderful review! Good on you.
I managed to get some screengrabs from my friend. She's pretty hesitant to get involved due to the nature of this guy. These are MSN logs, so you can tell it was awhile ago.
Goldie, you finally got your big break. It came.
I managed to get some screengrabs from my friend. She's pretty hesitant to get involved due to the nature of this guy. These are MSN logs, so you can tell it was awhile ago.
Warning: Comic Sans
Goldie, you finally got your big break. It came.
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my secret at 5 was that i lied to my parents about not wanting a snack when i in fact was holding four oreos behind my back
can someone give me a detailed summary of what happened in this, i don't get where jay's brother comes in and i can't read some of the pages
can someone give me a detailed summary of what happened in this, i don't get where jay's brother comes in and i can't read some of the pages
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Also, my secret when I was 5 was when I stole one of my brothers favourite toys, hid it and wouldn't tell him where it was because he wouldn't let me play with it. I can't confirm if he ever made a comic where he made me the villain and killed me in cold blood because of that incident.
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Somehow it completely passed my mind that he cares more for the crumpled paper than he did for the death of the Cat. In the next issue when he realizes that the villain is his brother that is going to be why he kills him not out of justice, no greater god just petty revenge and an inability to forgive or find a rational way to communicate with his brother. Also what are their parents doing that they don't notice both their kids are gone and having nuke saber fights? Also is the Jay in this page narrator Jay or Warrior Jay when he is older?It's very telling that he cares more about some crumpled up inanimate object than he does a living creature, be it human or animal.
Also, my secret when I was 5 was when I stole one of my brothers favourite toys, hid it and wouldn't tell him where it was because he wouldn't let me play with it. I can't confirm if he ever made a comic where he made me the villain and killed me in cold blood because of that incident.
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When I was 5 my dad said I couldn't watch The Young Ones anymore, cause it was bit rude. So I went and watched it on our BandW portable, and felt fucking awesome. No regrets.It's very telling that he cares more about some crumpled up inanimate object than he does a living creature, be it human or animal.
Also, my secret when I was 5 was when I stole one of my brothers favourite toys, hid it and wouldn't tell him where it was because he wouldn't let me play with it. I can't confirm if he ever made a comic where he made me the villain and killed me in cold blood because of that incident.
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Trying to make sense of this Pilot Epic (failure) is like trying to figure out the meaning of life. We may never know when, what or why it's happening. We just sit back and take it all in.
My folks practically encouraged me watch The Young Ones when I was 8 years old. Watching a bunch of grown men swear and hit eachother was the funniest thing ever to 8 year old me. I can't say my tastes have changed much in the humour department.
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No way to get photos that aren't blurry and illegible?
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Yeah, don't want to sound ungrateful but it probably needs to go through a scanner.
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This is probably a minor thing to complain about, but of all the powers to choose for the hero why chose nuclear powers? Like yeah it'd probably be good for killing bad guys but it'd make the area he was fighting in completely eradiated. And he chooses to use this power right near a fucking school filled with little kids.
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And he chooses to use this power right near a fucking school filled with little kids.
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When I was 5, I would eat leftover food in the fridge that belonged to someone else, then blame it on my brother. My brother at the time was less than a year old.
I've always been a shitty liar.
I've always been a shitty liar.
