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This is false. I am retarded and didn't rewatch the first episode in a while, it's the same postcard she hands to Shinji in the original anime. The first movie just remade the opening with sequel shit in place. There are definitive character differences in the later films though and I think it's worse than the Evangelion Manga.

So disregard this, my point is it's like the Rebuilds of Evangelion where a lot of shit is pointless and lost in the sauce.
 
Remember Blitzball is more interesting as a fantasy sport than Qudditch.
You mean the sport where people who fly around at high speed on broomsticks are deliberately encouraged to try taking out as many of the other team as possible by hitting heavy metal balls into them and bluffing them into lawn darting themselves?
 
the new version of FFVII is available now on steam and gog. it seems the battles now run at 30 fps and not at 15 and it causes errors and it's like 3gb larger than the one released on 2013. oh and you don't need a square enix account to play it.
 
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the new version of FFVII is available now on steam and gog. it seems the battles now run at 30 fps and not at 15 and it causes errors and it's like 3gb larger than the one released on 2013. oh and you don't need a square enix account to play it.
Pretty sweet you can get it on GOG. We should buy the games out of principle on GOG so we can see more get release DRM free.
 
Is Tifa the worst girlfriend ever? She hides, confuses and even is very retarded sometimes.
Rinoa is a literal angel if you compare to her.
No. The character development there is good. She’d be the worst main heroine ever but she isn’t that so it’s fine.

Her problem is having a mentally ill core group of WoC fans surrounded by a large shell of fans who like her for the usual reasons. Neither will change their minds, which isn’t a problem for the Outer Shell but is for the Core who derive a lot of validation from her. But also the Shell Group is so large it effectively gives the former group a lot of clout. And makes it important to please them.

So therefore you get a wall of cognitive dissonance around both of those two points I just made. Saying she has character development is now judging her for being wrong and saying she isn’t the main heroine must mean you didn’t play past Disc 1 because apparently heroinism is determined by being important later (rather than important throughout).

It’s especially ridiculous given the structure of these Remakes since two out of three games have her doing nothing. This is blamed on the trilogy format, but when that same format forces her to have goofy girlboss moments or feckless arguments with Cloud that becomes “important character development.” Completely unlike the despair, agony and contrition she originally felt in the OG Disc 2. Which are the strong emotions that made people sympathize with her to begin with.
 
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I've been preparing to get into FF and have been trying to get the "best" versions of I-VI, mostly by looking through opinions in here and watching version comparisons by AustinSV.

But here's the issue I've come across; while I'm interested in playing the actual games, I'd be lying if I said my primary interest wasn't in the story/characters/lore. I want to try and play them all, but I'm not sure I'll be interested in going through extra dungeons or bosses unless it has some kind of impact on the story (at least in the I-VI era). Plus I'm going through some shit right now and don't necessarily feel like applying a bunch of rom hacks and setting up a bunch of different emulators to play these (though I will if it will truly give the best experience, since some of the decisions made in the PRs are less than ideal).

So with that being said, what would the best versions of each game be for my purposes?
 
No. The character development there is good. She’d be the worst main heroine ever but she isn’t that so it’s fine.

Her problem is having a mentally ill core group of WoC fans surrounded by a large shell of fans who like her for the usual reasons. Neither will change their minds, which isn’t a problem for the Outer Shell but is for the Core who derive a lot of validation from her. But also the Shell Group is so large it effectively gives the former group a lot of clout. And makes it important to please them.

So therefore you get a wall of cognitive dissonance around both of those two points I just made. Saying she has character development is now judging her for being wrong and saying she isn’t the main heroine must mean you didn’t play past Disc 1 because apparently heroinism is determined by being important later (rather than important throughout).

It’s especially ridiculous given the structure of these Remakes since two out of three games have her doing nothing. This is blamed on the trilogy format, but when that same format forces her to have goofy girlboss moments or feckless arguments with Cloud that becomes “important character development.” Completely unlike the despair, agony and contrition she originally felt in the OG Disc 2. Which are the strong emotions that made people sympathize with her to begin with.
Why I hate the REmakes so much they cut out the agony, despair and contrition and turned Ff7 into a road trip movie with no stakes
 
I've been preparing to get into FF and have been trying to get the "best" versions of I-VI, mostly by looking through opinions in here and watching version comparisons by AustinSV.

But here's the issue I've come across; while I'm interested in playing the actual games, I'd be lying if I said my primary interest wasn't in the story/characters/lore. I want to try and play them all, but I'm not sure I'll be interested in going through extra dungeons or bosses unless it has some kind of impact on the story (at least in the I-VI era). Plus I'm going through some shit right now and don't necessarily feel like applying a bunch of rom hacks and setting up a bunch of different emulators to play these (though I will if it will truly give the best experience, since some of the decisions made in the PRs are less than ideal).

So with that being said, what would the best versions of each game be for my purposes?
Play the pixel remasters. They don't have any of the bonus content, but you said you don't care about that. They also come with some quality of life upgrades like extra experience/gold, and I think the ability to turn off random encounters. If you're only interested in emulation, you can get everything but FF3 on the GBA. The 2D version of FF3 is only available on the NES and via pixel remaster.

The 3D and 2D versions of FF3 are arguably different games, but I've never played through the entire 2D one. As far as I know, the Steam, DS, and PSP versions of FF3 3D are effectively identical.
 
I've been preparing to get into FF and have been trying to get the "best" versions of I-VI, mostly by looking through opinions in here and watching version comparisons by AustinSV.

But here's the issue I've come across; while I'm interested in playing the actual games, I'd be lying if I said my primary interest wasn't in the story/characters/lore. I want to try and play them all, but I'm not sure I'll be interested in going through extra dungeons or bosses unless it has some kind of impact on the story (at least in the I-VI era). Plus I'm going through some shit right now and don't necessarily feel like applying a bunch of rom hacks and setting up a bunch of different emulators to play these (though I will if it will truly give the best experience, since some of the decisions made in the PRs are less than ideal).

So with that being said, what would the best versions of each game be for my purposes?
There's an extra post-game storyline for II you'd probably be interested in, but it's only in the GBA and PSP versions. I recommend you play the PSP versions. They'll be smooth to play through, have nice graphics, and that bonus storyline in II. Just ignore the extra dungeons in I or the extra main story dungeon in II, they're pretty tedious. The extra dungeons in FF1 also have a lot of retroactive nostalgia bosses from III to VI you wouldn't get until you play those games.

If you're going to play just one version of III and IV, you should play the 3D versions since they expand on the stories to them. The PSP and PC versions of III (3D) are nearly identical, so you can play either of those. The DS and PC versions of IV (3D) have more differences and you should probably go with the PC version, but the DS version is also fine if it's more convenient.

You might as well play the GBA versions of V and VI. They fix some glitches from the SNES versions, have the up to date official translations if you care about that, and have more graphics and gameplay more accurate to the SNES versions than the Pixel Remasters. You can ignore the extra dungeons if you want since they're quarantined off to the post-game anyway.

You don't need to think about setting up emulators. Just the grab the appropriate roms and play them in these.
 

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If you're going to play just one version of III and IV, you should play the 3D versions since they expand on the stories to them. The PSP and PC versions of III (3D) are nearly identical, so you can play either of those. The DS and PC versions of IV (3D) have more differences and you should probably go with the PC version, but the DS version is also fine if it's more convenient.
Thanks a ton for the info. III and IV are definitely the ones I've had the most trouble deciding on.

I was partial to the look/gameplay of 2D FF IV, but I've read that the After Years is kind of fanfiction tier in content, is that true?

Also, I'm assuming if I wanted to go for 2D FF III the PR would be the best choice?
 
Thanks a ton for the info. III and IV are definitely the ones I've had the most trouble deciding on.

I was partial to the look/gameplay of 2D FF IV, but I've read that the After Years is kind of fanfiction tier in content, is that true?
Is just post-FFIV story. You play as Cecil and Rosa's son. Take it or leave it.
Also, I'm assuming if I wanted to go for 2D FF III the PR would be the best choice?
Yes. Is a straight update of the NES.
 
I was partial to the look/gameplay of 2D FF IV, but I've read that the After Years is kind of fanfiction tier in content, is that true?
If you're interested in playing the 2D version of IV, then I would say the PSP version is the best version. It has the same gameplay as the SNES or GBA versions but it plays smoother and any major bugs are fixed. I think the graphics look fine, though some people dislike it and say it looks like an RPG Maker game. The GBA and PSP versions are basically the same in content outside the graphics - the GBA graphics are closer to the SNES graphics -, but the GBA version has some bad programming with the ATB system that causes turn order to just not work correctly, at least in the Japanese and American carts. I think it might have been fixed or partially fixed in the European release? I'm not totally sure.

If you play the PSP version of IV, then you could ahead and play Interlude and After Years which are bundled on the same disc if you want to experience it for yourself, but yeah, After Years is not very good. I've bitched about it in this thread before. The plot is really meandering, doesn't use many of the old character very well, and has one of the worst main villains in any game I've played. Its gameplay is also really dry until the close to the end, since you spend a large percentage of the game stuck with only 2 characters in a game where the max party size is 5.
Also, I'm assuming if I wanted to go for 2D FF III the PR would be the best choice?
Story-wise, there's no difference between NES and PR versions of III. It's literally the exact same Japanese script but with a couple instances of the word "crazy" removed. Gameplay-wise, the PR version is kind of a weird blend of the NES and 3D versions, with some of its own further balance changes. If you want the original gameplay then you have to play the NES version, but if you want the NES story script but the gameplay is smoother and easier then you can play the PR version.
 
Dawn Of Souls is my absolute favorite way to experience I and II. Especially II. The postgame addition with Minwu/Josef/Scott/Ricard actually adds a lot to the experience.
And with IV and the Lunar Ruins. Kain’s scenario ALONE beats the DS Remake imho.
 
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