The cringiest things about gamers

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Gaming analysis channels like CleanPrinceGaming can be terrible as they put low effort and try to soak up gaming controversies. They have little to no thought put in and do nothing to advance the media, and at worst are an excuse for the cramming of the author’s politics in the case of someone like Anita.

Ok, actually,...

I’m going to go against this thread a bit, but I want to say that gamers do have one advantage to the over other hobbyists. I think the more analytical channels surrounding gaming in 2020 are actually able to produce good content. Many of them are pretty good at representing gaming as an art form. While some or cringe or money grabbing, for the most part they seem fine, especially compared to movie and show analysts.

Movie and show analysts are really trash nowadays, and I am surprised gaming has sort of distance itself from them. Users like King K actually produce good content worthy of listening to for the hour. They go into game mechanics, story, and themes while doing a respectful analysis of how all combine. The videos feel smartly written, showing more than the surface level. Movies/TV, I feel, are less likely to find good content of. So many users either miss crucial things or inject their political beliefs into it. I think good examples are Big Joel, or more infamously, The Pop Culture Detective. Seriously, check out Big Joel’s The Lion King video for max stupidity. The dude builds his argument on this idea that the lions are human? Something about how having human characteristics makes them human, it was just flimsy justification. He then goes on like a 20 minute rant about how the Lion King promotes fascism or some hierarchy structure because he lacks any understanding of the Circle of Life speech. I find gamers to be better at making their medium seem more..intelligent, for lack of a better term. When I watch game analysis or retrospectives, the author seems to be focused on the content and not trying to create theories and estimates of writer‘s intent. They also don’t make as many blanket statements like all media is political to try to own the right. I hate when these types of videos say things like that, Big Joel said the all political statement while reviewing Scooby Doo, and all I could think was when has Scooby ever been political prior to the 2020 movie. Did I miss the episode where Fred’s trap obsession leads him to become a trans ally, or the one where Shaggy joins antifa for a Scooby Snack?

In conclusion, while some of gaming analysts and retrospects can be cringe, they are certainly at a higher standard than most media nowadays. These channels may not be for everyone, but I can appreciate those who spend time talking about the good and bad in very long-form detail and getting into more technical aspects. I love channels like Lambhoot, or Tech Rules for going into detail about games and how they operate, as well as things like the FE3H Value of Connection video which gave me more of an appreciation for 3H’s story.
 
kinda relevant because I see gamers rting this.

Literally-who is going around shaming other indie devs for not publishing on a crappy platform like itch.io.
All because steam isn't tweeting BLM

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elzaw said:
kinda relevant because I see gamers rting this.

Literally-who is going around shaming other indie devs for not publishing on a crappy platform like itch.io.
All because steam isn't tweeting BLM

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I have never heard of those games.

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Lovely Weather We're Having on Steam

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Look at those Steam pages. Yep, Valve is finished.

Also, curiously, Art Sqool had already been put through archive.is a year ago. 🤔
 

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Gaming analysis channels like CleanPrinceGaming can be terrible as they put low effort and try to soak up gaming controversies. They have little to no thought put in and do nothing to advance the media, and at worst are an excuse for the cramming of the author’s politics in the case of someone like Anita.

Ok, actually,...

I’m going to go against this thread a bit, but I want to say that gamers do have one advantage to the over other hobbyists. I think the more analytical channels surrounding gaming in 2020 are actually able to produce good content. Many of them are pretty good at representing gaming as an art form. While some or cringe or money grabbing, for the most part they seem fine, especially compared to movie and show analysts.

Movie and show analysts are really trash nowadays, and I am surprised gaming has sort of distance itself from them. Users like King K actually produce good content worthy of listening to for the hour. They go into game mechanics, story, and themes while doing a respectful analysis of how all combine. The videos feel smartly written, showing more than the surface level. Movies/TV, I feel, are less likely to find good content of. So many users either miss crucial things or inject their political beliefs into it. I think good examples are Big Joel, or more infamously, The Pop Culture Detective. Seriously, check out Big Joel’s The Lion King video for max stupidity. The dude builds his argument on this idea that the lions are human? Something about how having human characteristics makes them human, it was just flimsy justification. He then goes on like a 20 minute rant about how the Lion King promotes fascism or some hierarchy structure because he lacks any understanding of the Circle of Life speech. I find gamers to be better at making their medium seem more..intelligent, for lack of a better term. When I watch game analysis or retrospectives, the author seems to be focused on the content and not trying to create theories and estimates of writer‘s intent. They also don’t make as many blanket statements like all media is political to try to own the right. I hate when these types of videos say things like that, Big Joel said the all political statement while reviewing Scooby Doo, and all I could think was when has Scooby ever been political prior to the 2020 movie. Did I miss the episode where Fred’s trap obsession leads him to become a trans ally, or the one where Shaggy joins antifa for a Scooby Snack?

In conclusion, while some of gaming analysts and retrospects can be cringe, they are certainly at a higher standard than most media nowadays. These channels may not be for everyone, but I can appreciate those who spend time talking about the good and bad in very long-form detail and getting into more technical aspects. I love channels like Lambhoot, or Tech Rules for going into detail about games and how they operate, as well as things like the FE3H Value of Connection video which gave me more of an appreciation for 3H’s story.
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Game analysis has always been one of my favorite things and the people who do it well, do it extraordinarily well. I find myself analyzing a lot of the games I play and thinking about what makes them so good, so bad, how well all the different parts mix together or how they run counter to each other, ect. It's something that keeps my mind occupied while I'm taking care of every day things like work or cleaning.

I guess it comes down to our natural desire to figure out how things work and find connections in things. Games are fascinating in this regard as the medium requires the person to actively participate in order to experience what it has to offer. You really have to wonder what goes inside the heads of the development team when figuring out how to make such engrossing experiences, while at the same time, think about how the players themselves view things.
 
Cactus Wings said:
The label itself. Much like being a comic book nerd, or any nerd, gamer now doesn't reach from D&D in the 90s to WoW in the 00s, but anyone who plays games. So basically, anyone. And who identifies by being something everyone is to some extend? The same kind of people who go "metal is my life".

Being a gamer is like being a movie-watcher. Or hell, a nerd with how popular Marvel is. What's there to take pride in?
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This is bullshit brought on by "Gamer" and "Nerd" being turned into a "Lifestyle" brand by stupid blue check mark faggots who want it to be "Fashionable"

In a sane world "gamer" would be akin to the term "Car guy"

Everyone drives cars, but not everyone is a Car Guy.
 
It's weird. I think Gamer Video Essay culture is better than other entertainment media (perhaps because gamers are more tech savvy and can't get real jobs to write about games like a good movie or lit critic) but Gamers as a whole are worse when it comes to analyzing and evaluating their properties. I suspect that's just the nature of fandoms that people much too devoted to particular franchises have warped and biased perspectives but I notice it more with gamers. With books and movies I can get more out of a layman fan of something.
 
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Those people are great, especially if they're really bad so you can do it again and again as they get angrier and angrier.
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My favorite was as a Dark Moon in Dark Souls 1. You can't invade other players as a DM unless they have 'sin' which is usually obtained by killing other players as an evil spirit. They were fine invading others, but would get mad at being invaded themselves.

Or maybe it was because I did my invading in the tomb of the giants.

🤔
 
Berrakh said:
It's weird. I think Gamer Video Essay culture is better than other entertainment media (perhaps because gamers are more tech savvy and can't get real jobs to write about games like a good movie or lit critic) but Gamers as a whole are worse when it comes to analyzing and evaluating their properties. I suspect that's just the nature of fandoms that people much too devoted to particular franchises have warped and biased perspectives but I notice it more with gamers. With books and movies I can get more out of a layman fan of something.
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I think a better explanation is just that games are a whole lot harder to analyze and have so many factors to them when compared to movies or other mediums. To break it down to two basic terms, you have presentation/story, then gameplay. A movie is something one can judge solely on the story and presentation, whereas games have a gameplay element to them. One’s entire perspective can be built off one of the two factors making them more susceptible to the biased perspective.

For example, Breath of The Wild and The Last of Us are both heavily regarded games, but are sort of inverses of each other. BOTW is very open and promotes gameplay over narrative. It is loved in this regard and seen as perfect despite the lackluster narrative given in the game. The Last of Us is a story driven game with said to be serviceable gameplay. The story griped people into what is another FPS.

Even simple things like more options can change a game. Smash is divided as some like Ultimate’s focus on characters and gameplay for multiplayer, while some prefer Brawl for the single player content. Which is better? It’s an impossible to answer question with analysis as both strike different itches.

Difficulty can also be a factor. I personally love Crash Team Racing Nitro Fueled, and prefer it to Mario Kart, but at the same time, the game is way more difficult so one may see it as worse for not being as pick up and play.

The problem with game analysts is that there is no obvious perfection unlike other mediums. All those mediums need is a tight script, whereas games are placed into a position where one must explain advantages and how they make up for the not so good. How can Crash’s driving mechanics being so skilled based make up for the lack of easy accessibility? How can BOTW’s open world exploration make up for the series losing story and dungeons? Can games like The Last of Us or FE3H stand up as greats, even if gameplay is basic, just because the story is good?

Video game essay culture is better because there is so much variety and ways of looking at things. One can be technical, while another can look at story and themes. A truly great one can look at everything and create a truly well-rounded analysis. In turn, that also creates people who cannot explain properly as the medium is so varied in things to look at that they have no clear idea why they like it. Add in the people who see video games as lacking value because they are just toys, a thing they use to play with friends and nothing else, and it is no wonder why gaming analysis is uncommon. Gaming is not considered an art form, and as such, people do not even attempt to understand it. Those who do are split between consumer types who like flashy colors and probably see Marvel films as flawless cinema, people who are unable to express why because of the listed above, and the few who truly look into the medium and create great content.
 
They're constant need to appear mature apparently all you need to do in order be mature these days is to look at fictional violence and nudity
 
A cringe thing i'd note is PC players defending the hell out of Denuvo despite evidences that the anti-piracy DRM affects performance with stutters and fps loss not to mention the limited lifespan of the Denuvo-ridden game. But I doubt those people have known the days of Safedisc, Securom, GFWL, etc that plagued the PC releases for many years.
 
Oh god I'd have to put it all in a video for accessabilities sake.
Theres far to much to put in one post.
Maybe I will I dont know.

Biggest one for me though is watching videos of the most boring people on the planet play video games unironically.
 
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