Opinion The Case Against the Constitution - Bug hive dwellers want total electoral dominion over rurals

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Facing a largely ineffective Congress, an overstepping Supreme Court, the rising threat of authoritarianism, and a government seemingly unable to address many of our most pressing problems, a small but growing number of liberal scholars and commentators have been making a strong case against a previously sacred cow: the U.S. Constitution.

Among the biggest issues they cite are the amendment process (which makes changes virtually impossible), excessive veto points, the Electoral College, lifetime appointments for Supreme Court justices, a first-past-the-post (winner-take-all) electoral system (rather than, say, proportional representation), and a grossly disproportionate Senate that ensures greater power for the mostly white, more rural small states at the expense of larger ones.

Many of these issues make the Constitution irredeemable, as these revolutionary thinkers see it.

Chris Edelson, an assistant professor of government at American University, is one. He fears our system has just gotten far too undemocratic.

"There's not just one way to do democracy, but the way we're doing it now is bizarre," he told Newsweek, "because it allows people to win victories in the presidency or control the Senate, the House, and state legislatures without actually getting the most votes."

Yet the Constitution acts as an impediment to any serious change.

Edelson explained, for instance, how Article V essentially enshrines the disproportionate Senate: "Article V says you can't change equal suffrage for the states [in the Senate] without their consent," so to abolish the Senate you would need it to be unanimous. Wyoming or Alaska could veto the entire effort.

He said we should take inspiration from the Founders and their better ideals, but not be beholden to all of their outdated notions.

"As the framers themselves recognized, the Constitution replaced their own failed document, the Articles of Confederation—it didn't work, so they threw it out. I think we have to do the same thing today. That doesn't mean everything from the Constitution goes—some principles are worth preserving: freedom of speech, protections from the Bill of Rights ..."

Yet the Trump presidency, he said, along with Jan. 6, and the rising tide of autocracy have demonstrated the severe weaknesses of the Constitution.

Political science professor Terry Moe of Stanford University, co-author of the constitutionally critical Relic, also hasn't shied away from addressing the elephant in the room.

"The simplest way to put it is the Constitution was written in 1787, and the framers designed a government for a tiny, primitive, agrarian nation of some 4 million people," he said. "And they designed a government for their times; not for our times. Government wasn't expected to do very much back then and they designed a government that couldn't do very much."

While recognizing the difficulty of changing the Constitution, Moe has a hard time seeing how we can address the major issues of today without drastic reform or replacement: "What we need is a government that's designed to solve problems, not a government that was designed more than 200 years ago for a primitive, agrarian society."

Much like Edelson and Moe, Sanford Levinson, a professor of law at both Harvard University and the University of Texas at Austin, and author of Our Undemocratic Constitution, considers our affinity for the Founders and the Constitution to be peculiar.

"Our devotion to the framers and to the Constitution [is] a strange custom that if you discovered it in a foreign tribe, you would come back and say 'This is really odd.'" He added, "The national Constitution is treated really as a sacred book and to talk about amendments is almost blasphemous."

This resistance to change has truly hurt us, Levinson contended. He noted that no such unequivocal veneration has afflicted the state constitutions, which we should study and learn from, he said, but don't: "The average among the 50 states is just short of three different constitutions per state. I think New York is on its fifth constitution ... Illinois is governed by its 1972 constitution, as is true of Montana."

Alabama enacted a new constitution in 2022, after amending the previous one nearly a thousand times.

Others have been sounding alarms as well. Jamelle Bouie of The New York Times has broached the topic of a new constitution in his columns, and historian Jill Lepore has written in both the Times and the New Yorker about our ridiculous amendment process.

It's possible that we're beginning to see somewhat of a change in public opinion—in part, perhaps, because of the willingness of some to dive into these previously toxic waters, and perhaps because the threats to democracy suddenly seem so very real.

This is not to say that hosting a new constitutional convention would not come with certain risks. Moe, Edelson, and Levinson all expressed fears that the far-right could look to hijack the effort. In fact, figures like former Pennsylvania Senator Rick Santorum and others on the right are busy trying to do so.
Yet the dangers of inaction are also very real, they said.

"In ordinary times, I would never propose this," Edelson said. "It would just be too risky. The only reason I advance this is because, on the path we are currently on, I don't see a path forward for democracy."

 
I embrace this. The Constitution is a piece of paper that has no meaning but everyone will cite as if it were some retarded fucking mandate that all people in these contiguous states have some moral obligation to share space and resources with one another.
 
I embrace this. The Constitution is a piece of paper that has no meaning but everyone will cite as if it were some retarded fucking mandate that all people in these contiguous states have some moral obligation to share space and resources with one another.
Just rip the bandaid off and split the country up already. It'll be fun, I promise. They can have all the gun bans, abortions, homeless camps, and immigrants that they want.
 
"There's not just one way to do democracy, but the way we're doing it now is bizarre," he told Newsweek, "because it allows people to win victories in the presidency or control the Senate, the House, and state legislatures without actually getting the most votes."
I could take this argument and craft it as a reason to throw Ocasio-Cortez out of Congress. She got elected with less than 10% of her district voting, and she beat out the incumbent. This means at least 80% of the people didn't vote; by the law of inference, I conclude those people would rather be unrepresented than have the dumb fucking bartender or the man she beat be their representative.

"The simplest way to put it is the Constitution was written in 1787, and the framers designed a government for a tiny, primitive, agrarian nation of some 4 million people," he said. "And they designed a government for their times; not for our times. Government wasn't expected to do very much back then and they designed a government that couldn't do very much."
Imagine arguing for a large government that has overwhelming influence in your every day life; this bug author needs to be swatted.

"Our devotion to the framers and to the Constitution [is] a strange custom that if you discovered it in a foreign tribe, you would come back and say 'This is really odd.'" He added, "The national Constitution is treated really as a sacred book and to talk about amendments is almost blasphemous."
The Constitution is an interesting piece because it wasn't written as a set of laws for the people, it's a set of restraints for the government. Take that, plus ursurpers like you want to do shit like take a simple phrase like "shall not be infringed" to mean "whatever I deem allowable at this point in time;" or how "freedom of speech" somehow protects pornography, but does not protect criticism of jews or Israel. It's taken as important, because we see hand rubbing subversive fucks like you as dangerous, and fortunately for you, vigilantism/murder is a crime and society hasn't completely fallen apart, yet.

This resistance to change has truly hurt us, Levinson contended. He noted that no such unequivocal veneration has afflicted the state constitutions, which we should study and learn from, he said, but don't: "The average among the 50 states is just short of three different constitutions per state. I think New York is on its fifth constitution ... Illinois is governed by its 1972 constitution, as is true of Montana."
All you have to do is get three-quarters of states to agree on something to draft an Amendment. This resistance to change was made, because they realize it's easy for a power drunk Congress, Senate, or Sovereign to simply decree something. But now, you're crying that the so called legislators don't want to proceed with proper legislation, but enact law via decree. What's wrong, is doing your overpaid and overprivileged job too fucking difficult?

This is not to say that hosting a new constitutional convention would not come with certain risks. Moe, Edelson, and Levinson all expressed fears that the far-right could look to hijack the effort. In fact, figures like former Pennsylvania Senator Rick Santorum and others on the right are busy trying to do so.
Yet the dangers of inaction are also very real, they said.

"In ordinary times, I would never propose this," Edelson said. "It would just be too risky. The only reason I advance this is because, on the path we are currently on, I don't see a path forward for democracy."
So... you don't want to hold a Convention of States because you're afraid you wouldn't get your fucking wish list? And you want to frame the other state's unwillingness to go with your bullshit as an attack on "Democracy"? Good, get fucked charlatan. In fact, get the fuck out and go back to Israel... Levinson.
 
Just rip the bandaid off and split the country up already. It'll be fun, I promise. They can have all the gun bans, abortions, homeless camps, and immigrants that they want.
The Articles of Confederation are really sounding pretty good these days. If they did what they wanted in their own states without trying to force it on us, there would be no problems.
 
So in order to combat "the rising threat of authoritarianism" we need one-party rule in America. Thanks for explaining that, author man.
They need to formalize it after Trump threatened to make people realize they didn't have to eat a shit sandwich.
Just rip the bandaid off and split the country up already. It'll be fun, I promise. They can have all the gun bans, abortions, homeless camps, and immigrants that they want.
The problem is that they need to hold complete dominion. Their religion forbids apostasy.
 
Just need to point out that these fucks don't actually believe in democracy. All they believe in is elections going their way.

Just look at Brexit and how many times those that cloak themselves in democracy called for a second referendum.

Ask why they decided to take the California Constitutional ban on gay marriage to federal court?

Ask yourself why they want to get rid of the Sheriff as an elected position and instead make them appointed by politburo members?

These people are no different that the communist / revolutionary leaders where after they get in power they turn against the principles or people they used get where they are.
 
Just rip the bandaid off and split the country up already. It'll be fun, I promise. They can have all the gun bans, abortions, homeless camps, and immigrants that they want.
Had already tried that which immediately lead to starting the American Civil War. The American bughivers never did got over it and been striving to make sure it will never happen again.
 
Just need to point out that these fucks don't actually believe in democracy. All they believe in is elections going their way.

Just look at Brexit and how many times those that cloak themselves in democracy called for a second referendum.

Ask why they decided to take the California Constitutional ban on gay marriage to federal court?

Ask yourself why they want to get rid of the Sheriff as an elected position and instead make them appointed by politburo members?

These people are no different that the communist / revolutionary leaders where after they get in power they turn against the principles or people they used get where they are.
I'd argue these people are even worse than Communists or Nazis. Lenin legitimately believed his dictatorship was conducive to a true democracy, that he represented the true majority worth anything (Proletarians), all that nonsense (It was doublethink). Hitler really believed he was bringing the entire German people together in one people's state.

These fuckers want power and will call it what ever they want to hold power
 
Just rip the bandaid off and split the country up already. It'll be fun, I promise. They can have all the gun bans, abortions, homeless camps, and immigrants that they want.
See, they don't want those things just for themselves. They want to impose them on you. They get off on humiliating their enemies.
 
I’m not sure how creating more justification for antisemitism is supposed to address the issue of rising antisemitism but here we are.

Maybe this time they’ll have those roller coasters.
 
Here they go again.. Just like after election night 2016, openly talking about destroying democratic rule and subjugating everyone with the "wrong" opinions. (complete with MSNBC and other media running non-Op-Eds arguing that we could and should literally ignore the votes of "racist" and wrong thinking voters officially) Can't get your way via rule of law and normal political system... It needs to burn... because it's vital that their agenda's get done. Don't you understand, not doing so is an existential threat!

Another good title for this idea is "how to ensure a civil war in one easy step"

Also have to love how these "experts" never seem to comprehend the nature of the states. How do they ever plan on getting all the states to sign onto a new constitution, let alone ensure they choose what it is? This is a retarded idea even from their perspective! (I mean when looked at by a sane critically thinking person)


Why the fuck do people keep talking like this is a historical accident? The Senate has equal representation for each state, the House is based on population, for exactly this reason.

Because normies and young people are clueless and critically thinking stunted enough to fall for it, and emotionally so.
 
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a small but growing number of liberal scholars and commentators Marxist commie agitator scum have been making a strong case treasonous argument against a previously sacred cow the legal bedrock of modern civilization: the U.S. Constitution
FUCK OFF YOU FASCIST SOYJAK COMMIE FAGGOT MOTHERFUCKERS
 
William Roper: “So, now you give the Devil the benefit of law!”

Sir Thomas More: “Yes! What would you do? Cut a great road through the law to get after the Devil?”

William Roper: “Yes, I'd cut down every law in England to do that!”

Sir Thomas More: “Oh? And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned 'round on you, where would you hide, Roper, the laws all being flat? This country is planted thick with laws, from coast to coast, Man's laws, not God's! And if you cut them down, and you're just the man to do it, do you really think you could stand upright in the winds that would blow then? Yes, I'd give the Devil benefit of law, for my own safety's sake!
 
Which is why we need to rip the band aid off already.

Better to get to where this is inevitably going now rather than later.
Not once in human history have people who despise each other been forced to live together and just magically work it out. Liberals have this notion that we will love them if they just sodomize us hard enough.

(Which isn't entirely unfounded; Stockholm Syndrome is alive and well among the GOPe).
 
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Among the biggest issues they cite are the amendment process (which makes changes virtually impossible), excessive veto points, the Electoral College, lifetime appointments for Supreme Court justices, a first-past-the-post (winner-take-all) electoral system (rather than, say, proportional representation), and a grossly disproportionate Senate that ensures greater power for the mostly white, more rural small states at the expense of larger ones.
The only one of these that's actually a problem is the first-past-the-post system, which is a driving factor behind the current state of affairs. Everything else? Excellent, and still near the pinnacle of statecraft 234 years running.
 
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