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Facing a largely ineffective Congress, an overstepping Supreme Court, the rising threat of authoritarianism, and a government seemingly unable to address many of our most pressing problems, a small but growing number of liberal scholars and commentators have been making a strong case against a previously sacred cow: the U.S. Constitution.

Among the biggest issues they cite are the amendment process (which makes changes virtually impossible), excessive veto points, the Electoral College, lifetime appointments for Supreme Court justices, a first-past-the-post (winner-take-all) electoral system (rather than, say, proportional representation), and a grossly disproportionate Senate that ensures greater power for the mostly white, more rural small states at the expense of larger ones.

Many of these issues make the Constitution irredeemable, as these revolutionary thinkers see it.

Chris Edelson, an assistant professor of government at American University, is one. He fears our system has just gotten far too undemocratic.

"There's not just one way to do democracy, but the way we're doing it now is bizarre," he told Newsweek, "because it allows people to win victories in the presidency or control the Senate, the House, and state legislatures without actually getting the most votes."

Yet the Constitution acts as an impediment to any serious change.

Edelson explained, for instance, how Article V essentially enshrines the disproportionate Senate: "Article V says you can't change equal suffrage for the states [in the Senate] without their consent," so to abolish the Senate you would need it to be unanimous. Wyoming or Alaska could veto the entire effort.

He said we should take inspiration from the Founders and their better ideals, but not be beholden to all of their outdated notions.

"As the framers themselves recognized, the Constitution replaced their own failed document, the Articles of Confederation—it didn't work, so they threw it out. I think we have to do the same thing today. That doesn't mean everything from the Constitution goes—some principles are worth preserving: freedom of speech, protections from the Bill of Rights ..."

Yet the Trump presidency, he said, along with Jan. 6, and the rising tide of autocracy have demonstrated the severe weaknesses of the Constitution.

Political science professor Terry Moe of Stanford University, co-author of the constitutionally critical Relic, also hasn't shied away from addressing the elephant in the room.

"The simplest way to put it is the Constitution was written in 1787, and the framers designed a government for a tiny, primitive, agrarian nation of some 4 million people," he said. "And they designed a government for their times; not for our times. Government wasn't expected to do very much back then and they designed a government that couldn't do very much."

While recognizing the difficulty of changing the Constitution, Moe has a hard time seeing how we can address the major issues of today without drastic reform or replacement: "What we need is a government that's designed to solve problems, not a government that was designed more than 200 years ago for a primitive, agrarian society."

Much like Edelson and Moe, Sanford Levinson, a professor of law at both Harvard University and the University of Texas at Austin, and author of Our Undemocratic Constitution, considers our affinity for the Founders and the Constitution to be peculiar.

"Our devotion to the framers and to the Constitution [is] a strange custom that if you discovered it in a foreign tribe, you would come back and say 'This is really odd.'" He added, "The national Constitution is treated really as a sacred book and to talk about amendments is almost blasphemous."

This resistance to change has truly hurt us, Levinson contended. He noted that no such unequivocal veneration has afflicted the state constitutions, which we should study and learn from, he said, but don't: "The average among the 50 states is just short of three different constitutions per state. I think New York is on its fifth constitution ... Illinois is governed by its 1972 constitution, as is true of Montana."

Alabama enacted a new constitution in 2022, after amending the previous one nearly a thousand times.

Others have been sounding alarms as well. Jamelle Bouie of The New York Times has broached the topic of a new constitution in his columns, and historian Jill Lepore has written in both the Times and the New Yorker about our ridiculous amendment process.

It's possible that we're beginning to see somewhat of a change in public opinion—in part, perhaps, because of the willingness of some to dive into these previously toxic waters, and perhaps because the threats to democracy suddenly seem so very real.

This is not to say that hosting a new constitutional convention would not come with certain risks. Moe, Edelson, and Levinson all expressed fears that the far-right could look to hijack the effort. In fact, figures like former Pennsylvania Senator Rick Santorum and others on the right are busy trying to do so.
Yet the dangers of inaction are also very real, they said.

"In ordinary times, I would never propose this," Edelson said. "It would just be too risky. The only reason I advance this is because, on the path we are currently on, I don't see a path forward for democracy."

 
Facing a largely ineffective Congress,
Been pretty effective at exposing Biden and trying to slow down his bullshit. Not really sure why this traitor believes congress should do anything since "Biden" is cranking out EO's for anything and everything while McCarthy caves.
an overstepping Supreme Court,
Holy shit go fuck yourself.
the rising threat of authoritarianism,
From assholes like you.
and a government seemingly unable to address many of our most pressing problems,
Fag, have you considered your policies are the problem not the execution of those policies? No of course not because you are a Marxist-Fag-Traitor.
a small but growing number of liberal scholars and commentators have been making a strong case against a previously sacred cow: the U.S. Constitution.
You are not a liberal you are a Marxist.

This faggot is literally arguing for the overthrowing of the US government*. Why is the DoJ not stomping his skull in right now? Oh right...he votes blue.

*Which is a crime according to Jack Smith's retardo-indictment.
 
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Wow. This one's a doozy and smacks of ragebait, but it does piss me off a little, So I'm going to do a paragraph by paragraph rebuttal, which I rarely do, but I'm slightly inebriated and have nothing better to do at the moment.
Facing a largely ineffective Congress, an overstepping Supreme Court, the rising threat of authoritarianism, and a government seemingly unable to address many of our most pressing problems, a small but growing number of liberal scholars and commentators have been making a strong case against a previously sacred cow: the U.S. Constitution.
Congress is ineffective because political gridlock helps the donors and that class. It's also because recently the executive election is seen as a panacea, which is backwards and reliant on executive orders, undermining the system as laid out, but of course you want to throw it in the dumpster of history anyways.

The supreme court is only overstepping to you because they are doing things that are opposite in some ways to your politics. Don't even try to lie and say that if it was a bunch of dem presidential appointees you wouldn't be carrying water for them and making excuses and doing your usual mental gymnastics to try and convince me how it's totally a good thing because it aligns with your values or lack thereof.

Authoritarianism? Really? I can see that happening in response to what you've laid out here, but you seem to be really unaware that your own article is calling for the same damn thing. Fuck off.

The government doesn't try to solve pressing issues for 2 reasons. 1 is that we are supposed to fix most things ourselves, not look to magic daddy in the white house or some sort of welfare, and 2 is that keeping problems going makes lazy politicians excuses to get re-elected, feeding into your pathetic bitch about congress being ineffective. The rest of this paragraph I'll address by addressing the rest of the article, and why it's a stupid idea to throw out the constitution.
Among the biggest issues they cite are the amendment process (which makes changes virtually impossible), excessive veto points, the Electoral College, lifetime appointments for Supreme Court justices, a first-past-the-post (winner-take-all) electoral system (rather than, say, proportional representation), and a grossly disproportionate Senate that ensures greater power for the mostly white, more rural small states at the expense of larger ones.
The amendment process is deliberately difficult so people like you with more birdseed and water in your skull than brain matter don't fuck up society with their halfassed radicalism. Vetoes are there for much the same reasons.

People like you wanted to pack the court or increase the number of justices just so you could get your way. No. Seethe and fuck off even more.

I don't particularly like first past the post much either, but if we have idiots like you agitating for throwing out founding documents because they don't fit your modern soy addled sensibilities, I'm in favor of keeping them if for no other reason than to spite your ass. Plus they worked fine for several centuries before your dad forgot to pull out.

The senate is broken, but not in the way you think it is. Senators have little reason to actively represent their districts because they are easily and happily bought. You want to change the system to cement one party rule, and you whine about democracy?
Many of these issues make the Constitution irredeemable, as these revolutionary thinkers see it.

Chris Edelson, an assistant professor of government at American University, is one. He fears our system has just gotten far too undemocratic.

"There's not just one way to do democracy, but the way we're doing it now is bizarre," he told Newsweek, "because it allows people to win victories in the presidency or control the Senate, the House, and state legislatures without actually getting the most votes."
So enact clearly defined laws that have enforced jail time for political malfeasance, bribe taking, graft and HAHAHAHAH...yeah right. The 2020 election was the most secure and honest election ever. HONK HONK
Yet the Constitution acts as an impediment to any serious change.
That's part of it's purpose, you fucking imbecile.
Edelson explained, for instance, how Article V essentially enshrines the disproportionate Senate: "Article V says you can't change equal suffrage for the states [in the Senate] without their consent," so to abolish the Senate you would need it to be unanimous. Wyoming or Alaska could veto the entire effort.

He said we should take inspiration from the Founders and their better ideals, but not be beholden to all of their outdated notions.

"As the framers themselves recognized, the Constitution replaced their own failed document, the Articles of Confederation—it didn't work, so they threw it out. I think we have to do the same thing today. That doesn't mean everything from the Constitution goes—some principles are worth preserving: freedom of speech, protections from the Bill of Rights ..."
Or, here's a somewhat radical idea, you could work within the framework as laid out, because it has withstood the test of time already? It's only radical to you because you want recognition for changing something. Go found a micronation, the constitution is working as intended.
Yet the Trump presidency, he said, along with Jan. 6, and the rising tide of autocracy have demonstrated the severe weaknesses of the Constitution.
Obligatory orangemanbad because of course they did. Trump was nowhere near an autocrat. His detractors want to be though.
Political science professor Terry Moe of Stanford University, co-author of the constitutionally critical Relic, also hasn't shied away from addressing the elephant in the room.

"The simplest way to put it is the Constitution was written in 1787, and the framers designed a government for a tiny, primitive, agrarian nation of some 4 million people," he said. "And they designed a government for their times; not for our times. Government wasn't expected to do very much back then and they designed a government that couldn't do very much."

While recognizing the difficulty of changing the Constitution, Moe has a hard time seeing how we can address the major issues of today without drastic reform or replacement: "What we need is a government that's designed to solve problems, not a government that was designed more than 200 years ago for a primitive, agrarian society."
The constitution was also designed as a living document. It was last changed a few decades ago. It's entirely possible to change it again, but there is a reason it's so hard to change
Much like Edelson and Moe, Sanford Levinson, a professor of law at both Harvard University and the University of Texas at Austin, and author of Our Undemocratic Constitution, considers our affinity for the Founders and the Constitution to be peculiar.


"Our devotion to the framers and to the Constitution [is] a strange custom that if you discovered it in a foreign tribe, you would come back and say 'This is really odd.'" He added, "The national Constitution is treated really as a sacred book and to talk about amendments is almost blasphemous."

This resistance to change has truly hurt us, Levinson contended. He noted that no such unequivocal veneration has afflicted the state constitutions, which we should study and learn from, he said, but don't: "The average among the 50 states is just short of three different constitutions per state. I think New York is on its fifth constitution ... Illinois is governed by its 1972 constitution, as is true of Montana."

Alabama enacted a new constitution in 2022, after amending the previous one nearly a thousand times.
State's rights and federal rights are 2 different things. What works in Alabama would obviously not work in Massachusetts if applied exactly the same way. It doesn't help that people like the author of this want to enforce decrees via federal law to make all in obeisance to their own morality.
Others have been sounding alarms as well. Jamelle Bouie of The New York Times has broached the topic of a new constitution in his columns, and historian Jill Lepore has written in both the Times and the New Yorker about our ridiculous amendment process.

It's possible that we're beginning to see somewhat of a change in public opinion—in part, perhaps, because of the willingness of some to dive into these previously toxic waters, and perhaps because the threats to democracy suddenly seem so very real.
You don't want democracy, with all it's faults and benefits, shithead. You want a marxist revolution.
This is not to say that hosting a new constitutional convention would not come with certain risks. Moe, Edelson, and Levinson all expressed fears that the far-right could look to hijack the effort. In fact, figures like former Pennsylvania Senator Rick Santorum and others on the right are busy trying to do so.
Yet the dangers of inaction are also very real, they said.
At this point I would more than likely cheer on the "far-right" which is anything right of Clinton to you fuckers to simply bring us back to a damn stalemate, because you cocksure fags have a nasty tendency to not be able to read the room because your heads are firmly lodged in your asses.
"In ordinary times, I would never propose this," Edelson said. "It would just be too risky. The only reason I advance this is because, on the path we are currently on, I don't see a path forward for democracy."
Because your head is up your ass, again. What you want is to force your values upon the people you oppose politically, the antithesis of democracy. By the way, I'll be voting against you in 2024, if you happen to read this.
 
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The framework of the USA was designed so that one person could not easily cease power and transform it into an oligarchy or a monarchy. It's why there are 3 distinct branches of government that all have power but cannot override each other. Like the president elects the supreme court but can't just wag his finger at them to rule the way he wants. Likewise Congress can pass laws but the President can veto them.

The idea that the process should be made simpler or quicker is laughable as it's likely this structure is the reason the USA has survived on its original constitution for so long. Many countries have formed and collapsed in the centuries since the USA's founding and all suffered from things like 1 guy just rewriting all of the rules and changing shit for the worse because of that. Venezula immediately comes to mind given it's the country with the largest oil reserves on the planet yet it only took a single socialist demagogue to drive it into the ground. The USA's allowance of freedom of speech on a constitutional level is the reason why modern leftists like this journalist are even allowed to exist in the present day.
 
The funny thing is we all know that if the situation was flipped and the rural districts were the ones voting Democrat this slack jawed faggot would be singing the exact opposite tune. That the Constitution was a sacred sacrament to be defended at all costs. That the urban centers have no right using their raw numbers to enforce policies upon the minority.

It's all so tiresome
 
I'm going to do a paragraph by paragraph rebuttal, which I rarely do, but I'm slightly inebriated and have nothing better to do at the moment.
that's an awful lot of words to say "fuck off pinko faggots"

nice writeup. don't let it happen again
 
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