The Boys - An Amazon Prime adaptation of the Ennis comic series

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SITHRAK! said:
It’ll be done with Ridley Scott/Danny Boyle style action scenes with the camera being whipped around like it’s in a tornado and fifteen cuts a second so that everything is a blurry discombobulated mess.

Twelve years on from John Wick and five years on from Nobody and most directors still haven’t figured out that audiences want long-take, coherent, contextual action scenes.
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I get what the fights here were going for, shakiness that emphasizes superhuman blows, but the collateral to back that up is not present. Cameras staying still requires the rarely skilled actors capable of great choreography by their lonesome.
 
JayseeDenton said:
So given all that what exactly is it that they're trying to say in the context of "this guy represents America" shit? It doesn't really fit with the woke narrative that if you're white you've been on easy mode you're entire life. This guy has had a worse life than any other character I can think of. If anything that message seems to be a warning against black/tranny/muslim victimhood mentality... "sometimes people who have had horrible circumstances turn out to be complete monsters and even though it isn't their fault they still need a crowbar in the head".
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This is because most of homelander's backstory is grandfathered in from the comic, wherein he's very much a commentary on how, if Superman had actual emotions, he would be a massively fucked up individual that could easily be gaslit and manipulated by nefarious forces into becoming something truly horrific. It's a more schizoid take on the "evil superman" shit. All of that is thrown out by the show that basically made him a Trump allegory since s3 or s4.

He also gets taken out by the clone, and the military in the comics which is a way better commentary than "dude even tho he's crazy and got MKULTRA'd he's still gotta die bro" that the show went for. It's like they didn't even think of the implications of re-doing the comic ending within the context of the plotlines and metaphors they went for in the show. Would've maybe actually been good libshitkino if they'd actually committed to turning Homelander into a total psycho that BTFO the military and started using his body to kinetically bomb cities off the map. Then Billy's virus would be required and the message is "we gotta just like totally tear down the system before nukes fly bro" which is a watchmen-tier libtard boomer take but would be infinitely more kino than what we got.

They half-assed the ending and it's sad because anything else they were leading up to would've been better.
 
TheHarbinger said:
They don't have the budget for a giant scale WWII battle. Vought Rising is a murder mystery. And also a prequel about the creation of Compound V. The likely twist will be that Soldier Boy or someone from the government kills Frederick Vought.
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I say that because there’s a clip in the trailer with Soldier Boy spraying gunfire with an M1 Thompson while wearing an Adrien helmet in what looks to be urban ruins. Plus a clip of German soldiers riding in a tank. So at the very least we might see flashbacks of SB on the frontlines going ham on the Wehrmacht.
 
Kitty Cat Man said:
The entire point of the comic's ending was that the military could stomp out supes if they ever became a real threat, just chose not to because it was convenient. I think they revealed Vought also had a private army that could've done the same towards the end too.

Billy basically does 90% of the work in the final fight with a normal anti-aircraft gun. They weren't even special anti-supe missiles or whatever, the military just needed to deploy A-10's with heat-seekers on domestic soil which is like, a bad vibe man.
It was much better for them to just give some random CIA Niggers V and let them go about their business than it was to actually go after said supes head-on, and said supes were easily dispatched when it came time for Actual War which was some kinda commentary on how good 'ol fashioned Air Superiority and Boots on the Ground is way better than shiny tech that flounders the second it sees combat. Homelander basically was the strongest supe and he got oneshotted by a clone of himself, and the clone got oneshotted by Billy and the military.

Finally, he really drove home that Billy was an unhinged weirdo by having him teamkill right before the virus-release. He really was just a corrupt, roided-out version of The Punisher. All Supes Bad.

The show did none of that and just had them fist-fight in the white house and had Homelander get bitched and piss himself and offer to blow Billy. I don't wanna see faggot youtubers saying the comics have bad writing because they're edgy and The Boys wear trenchcoats and homelander says Nigger ever again.
Because of the marketing and all this "is homelander gonna snap for real" discourse I figured the show would actually go nuclear in a twist ending and have him BTFO the military somehow, making Billy's Kill All Supes virus actually necessary. But no, they just did the comic ending with a side of TDS and jewish humiliation-and-poop fetish bullshit.
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The show is lowkey boring by having the supes be overpowered. The comic's entire conflict comes from the fact that The Boys are the foot soldiers in a cat-and-mouse game between Vought American and The CIA. All of the book's twists and turns don't come from fights but from infiltration, blackmail, and subterfuge. Its very clearly established from the start that if the supes and the fed went to war, it would be a MAD situation as neither could just walk over the other.

The hard pivot to the comic ending in the show is baffling to me cause all of the window dressing is there but no actual set up. They forgot about Butcher's "villain arc" up until it was convenient again. This is no "heel turn", in the traditional sense, as you observed, Billy Butcher is simply Frank Castle without the Skull, and with Ennis arguably being the single best Punisher writer, he knows how to write a character like that well. Both Frank and Billy have a diease where they simply can't help themselves. After icing Homelander and Noir, Billy gets his post nut clarity, only for it to re-aim his focus cause he needs to keep killing, it won't ever be enough.
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ArthuriusMartyrius said:
So are we actually gonna see Soldier Boy kicking ass and taking names in World War II or is that just gonna be a gay noir-flavored 1950s drama?
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Probably going to be really similar to the main show in substance with 1950s style. I do think it's positive they have Aya Cash on board. Seems like there will be a Boys-like group with a black woman. The supes will most likely have to track down supe nigga and I'm guessing the black woman will be trying to stop it/save the supe.
 
garth ennis writes like a fifteen year old, and kripke writes ghostwrites, instructs, whatever like a fifty year old pretending to be a fifteen year old
 
Jace on ice said:
Why is the entire budget for the Soys extended universe tree fiddy and a green bad dragon dildo?

Amazon has literally a gazillion dollars.
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Because even the richest men in the world will cut corners to save a few pennies. It's not really worth spending that much when they already got what they wanted from the public that watched the first four seasons, so they made S5 into a glorified Vought Rising trailer.

Cryogonal2 said:
Media literacy is supposed to mean your ability to dissect and understand media. What it ends up meaning, the way the internet uses it, is "You don't like this so you don't get it and this is my way of not having to explain myself"
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Media literacy is just an excuse people use to avoid confronting the concept of "death of the author". Anyone can interpret any piece of fiction in their own way.

For example, Star Wars. George Lucas and later authors like Dave Filoni want to present the Empire and its champions as pure evil, but in reality, many discerning fans realize how ineffective and weak the good guys are, so they cheer for the Empire as the only thing that stands for law and order in the Star Wars galaxy.

The Boys has been suffering from this malady the same way. Kripke and the writing team want us to root for Starlight even when she bitches out at Hughie. But the general ineffectiveness of the heroes make people want to cheer for characters like Soldier Boy and Homelander instead, partially because of the acting talent of Anthony Starr and Jensen Ackles, but also because they're strong, capable men who scare the crap out of everyone else. Ib a world mired in lies and corporate corruption like that of the Boys, such characters tend to stand out.
 
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