The Boys - An Amazon Prime adaptation of the Ennis comic series

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Love how the show treats Hughie as the bad guy for being mislead and tricked by a shapeshifter who had all of Starlights memories and an exact replica of her body.
Also am confused on why they chose to make Hughie lie about knowing it wasn’t Annie based on small quirks when it was really just her saying “It’s like a furnace in here…” I’m sure it’s because he’s painted as the bad guy and needs to explain himself but it’s stupid overall.
Poor guy thinks his girlfriend is making an effort, putting some fun back into the relationship, and really loves him.

Now he realises he’s been tricked and is back into an emotionally manipulative relationship with a manic who just uses him as free therapy.
 
Hell Kimiko is more fun than her, Kimiko at least has more range of emotions than preachy whiner.

Kimiko's case makes me angry. The love of her life is being dragged away yet she can barely put up a fight against Sam. Fuck, the bootleg magneto from Gen V beats Sam's ass without too much effort.

Now that I think about it, what the fuck are the writers going to do for Gen V if the main characters are wanted criminals inside a cell? Wasn't the purpose of Gen V to be a "teen - College drama"?

Also, apparently this season was dedicated to Kripke's dad who suffered from dementia. I can't think of a worse tribute.
 
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They're both shit in their own way. The world building for both is off, the comic's hate for superheroes gets stale, and the show's politics gets insufferable.


If they had any balls, they'd stay the course. I've seen video games and cartoons for kids that portrayed the Feds as corrupt and evil in the early 2000s when the Feds were considered heroes for fighting Muslim terrorists.
I like how in the comics they actually have made up villains though. What are the supes in the show supposed to do all day other than chase muggers?
 
I thought the ending was pretty good to be honest.

Kinda bullshit that by accepting the v-tumor Butcher gets to live and the entire dying thing that was part of his arc all season gets a convenient postponement for the last season. I can only hope the cool Tentacle Butcher gets some kickass fights in the last season, especially a climactic bout with Homelander.

I'm glad Butcher killed Neuman, this season she was absolutely insufferable and felt like a scared teen rather than the powerful hidden supe poilitician she was portrayed as in previous seasons. It's like she suddenly became afraid to use her powers despite using them with reckless abandon like popping the heads of all the politicians in a room. They even confirm that she has the same blood powers as the main character of Gen V and then proceed to do nothing with it.

Also too many fucking set ups for characters that will show up as antagonists after some time skip (Which I be they are going to do like between Season 1 and 2) like Ashley, and Zoe. You know both those characters are going to have a revenge arc.

I also think it will be absolute shit if A-Train doesn't show back up and just gets to leave like that. Something tells me he's going to show up as a freedom fighter against the supe regime next season, this season was just the staging for his full flip.

The whole Starlight getting pissed at Hughie for being raped was a pretty contrived and short lived conflict that got resolved in one episode. Erin Moriarty had some good scenes in this episode though, there were some scenes where she acts serious, then sneaks in a smile when she's the shapeshifter and some other subtle things that show that she's talented, the writers just suck. Her character was about as bad as Neuman, except she literally couldn't use her powers until the very end of the season when it was convenient.

Kimiko is the GOAT female supe of the series. I think her character isn't too badly written, she's essentially stricken with acquired autism because she was raised to be a killer and experimented on. (The scene where real Starlight shows up and everyone is horrified and she just smiles and waves is adorable.) Frenchie is just a piece of shit that randomly stonewalls her because he wanted some BBC, and then got feels because he did a bad thing once. He used to be this club kid, French, chemistry genius, with a dark past, but they decided he should just be sad and gay this season. I'm glad Frenchie goes back to somewhat normal and his relationship with Kimiko progresses, but everything about the black lover arc felt forced to put Frenchie in a situation where he would have to face his demons. It could have gone without the gay sex implications. Kimiko's arc got screwed this season too, she gets in a fight a couple times and has a flashback, she killed some dudes, and talked to a girl then she's just okay with it I guess. The part where she screams "No" for the first time was a good moment though. I wonder how much character development was cut out so they could put in more scenes of Hughie being sexually humiliated.

I really half expected for Hughie to tell her to fuck off after all the shit he had been through and leave her, but instead he meekly accepts her scorn like a whipped puppy if she takes him back. Then he gives some bullshit speech about "Forgiveness" and cries about being desensitized, which just totally harpoons his character as just being a pushover that has just been carried along like Butcher's dingleberry. He gets no actual development from all the shit he had gone through and ends up just as weak going into the last season as he was at the end of the first season. Then he just allows Starlight to escape using the powers she could have just as easily used to help him.

I enjoyed that they actually gave Sage a good motivation for doing what she did. I think it would be pretty believable for a super genius to wonder if they could plan the fall of the most powerful government in the world, just to see if they could. I bet she's going to be the main villain of the last season essentially just masterminding shit from behind the scenes and using the country as a playground for random bullshit she thinks up. Deep and Noir are already pretty much mindless killing machines that have had zero conflict that she played them both, so they will probably be her personal guard/sex slaves. She pretty much forced Homelander to trust her unquestioningly from this point forward. I don't know if she had actually planned any of that, or if she just bullshits to make it look like that was her plan.

I do wish they would have kept in the scene of Ryan killing people if that is true because his last season appearance is the scene in the safe house and that leaves where he stood much more ambiguous than what that scene would have shown.

As for why they were captured and not killed on the spot, there was a lot of talk about internment camps so I'm assuming that's why they didn't kill any of the main characters. Buckle up, because I smell a lot of Holocaust allegory next season. Starlighters are going to be the guerilla force to liberate the human death camps.
 
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Now that I think about it, why is Cindy working for Vought? Didn't she realized that she was being tortured by Vought in season 2?

Also, how does love sausage still have his dick powers if he was caught in Soldier Boy's blast back in herogasm?

Anyway, that Sherlock copypasta should have been about Sage because it describes her bullshit "genius" powers to a tee.
 
Now that I think about it, what the fuck are the writers going to do for Gen V if the main characters are wanted criminals inside a cell? Wasn't the purpose of Gen V to be a "teen - College drama"?
The actor that played Magnegro died in a motorcycle crash so that probably simultaneously crashed that series. I wouldn't be surprised if they shoehorn all the characters into the last season for closure. I think Cate and Sam were always supposed to end up aligned with Homelander though. It would be funny to have a scene of all the Gen V characters having a moment and preparing to help the good guys, and then get unceremoniously slaughtered by Butcher and that's the end of that. The show is as dead as the motorcycle nigger and it should at least be trashed with a joke.

Also, how does love sausage still have his dick powers if he was caught in Soldier Boy's blast back in herogasm?
Kimiko gets her powers taken away by the same thing, but they establish that you can get your powers back by taking Compound V, she gets her powers back from taking it. Anyone with their powers taken away could feasibly regain them when they wanted. Also confirmed that Homelander has a big stash (potentially all?) of Compound V.
 
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One interesting thing about this episode is that Homelander technically isn't the villain in it.

Butcher lures Ryan to a containment facility and tries to get him to become his living weapon to enact his revenge showing that he never really cared about him at all. CIA woman gets killed as a result of this play failing and Butcher then goes on to tear the VP elect in half in front of her daughter whilst threatening to kill his allies if they intervene.

Deep, Noir and Firecracker unquestioningly murder numerous people based on a list of names given to them by someone who ends up on said list because she also knows all their dirty secrets.

Homelander actually comes off as someone who feels betrayed by the people close to him whilst he tries to make the world a better place.
 
I like how in the comics they actually have made up villains though. What are the supes in the show supposed to do all day other than chase muggers?
They had villains in Season 1 but Kripke decided to not give a shit about that plotline despite Homelander potentially having given God knows how many kooks Compound V. The most we got in later seasons is Stan Edgar bitching at Homelander for it before they dropped that plotline entirely.
 
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They had villains in Season 1 but Kripke decided to not give a shit about that plotline despite Homelander potentially having given God knows how many kooks Compound V. The most we got in later seasons is Stan Edgar bitching at Homelander for it.
In the comics though the villains actually worked for vought too so it was like a pro wrestling thing where they all hangout backstage anyway. In the animated thing they did there was also a decent idea of this invisible alien force known as Galaxius that they blame whenever a supe overdoses or gets killed.
 
In the comics though the villains actually worked for vought too so it was like a pro wrestling thing where they all hangout backstage anyway. In the animated thing they did there was also a decent idea of this invisible alien force known as Galaxius that they blame whenever a supe overdoses or gets killed.
Well one of the animated episodes considered canon is consistent with villains working for Vought like the guy with hammers for hands.
 
One more prediction seems obvious. Homelander finds out Stormfront is his mother. And loses his mind over that and starts killing mass civilians out of sheer rage. That people mock him as "motherfucker" and laugh that he banged his own mother several times.

Now that I think about it, what the fuck are the writers going to do for Gen V if the main characters are wanted criminals inside a cell? Wasn't the purpose of Gen V to be a "teen - College drama"?
Gen V's main plotline is that Superhero University is really a secret prison. The show ends with half the cast in a Vought prison. The Boys in season four are all captured and in prison as well. Nearly every other episode on The Boys and Gen V features a prison or dungeon story. We just had Starlight break out of her prison to fight the shapeshifter as well and Soldier Boy inside of a prison and Butcher try to capture Ryan into a CIA prison. It is by far the most repeated storyline in the entire series.

Likely 50-75% of the next seasons of both Gen V and The Boys will be prison storylines. Prisons are also cheap for set designers and will keep the budget for this show low. So they can splurge on the big Homelander fights in the final season. They just had some giant clumsy internment camp storyline with Tek Knight that will probably be the biggest factor in the final season as well.
Also too many fucking set ups for characters that will show up as antagonists after some time skip (Which I be they are going to do like between Season 1 and 2) like Ashley, and Zoe. You know both those characters are going to have a revenge arc.
Final season is in 2026. Meaning we have another Gen V season of zero plot development incoming. This season and the two other Gen V seasons between Boys season three and five are almost all setups for the big finale of Butcher versus the world. We've seen almost no plot development since the first season other than the superhero virus. Stuff like Temp V or supervillains seem to be abandoned.
One interesting thing about this episode is that Homelander technically isn't the villain in it.

Homelander actually comes off as someone who feels betrayed by the people close to him whilst he tries to make the world a better place.
Homelander is the villain. He's just written poorly and does nothing. He lets his enemies escape 99% of the time because they have plot armor. Butcher kills people like Mesmer, Gundpowder, or Neuman because chancing them to not retaliate is too risky. Homelander literally is so much of a retard he can't even kill Hughie hiding in the vents. Or just beat Butcher to death at his home when he visits him. Homelander fails to kill Maeve, Starlight, A-Train, and dozens of other people who want to kill him because the writing is all about stretching the plot out until season five episode eight where maybe, finally, something might actually happen of consequence.
 
Kimiko's case makes me angry. The love of her life is being dragged away yet she can barely put up a fight against Sam. Fuck, the bootleg magneto from Gen V beats Sam's ass without too much effort.

Now that I think about it, what the fuck are the writers going to do for Gen V if the main characters are wanted criminals inside a cell? Wasn't the purpose of Gen V to be a "teen - College drama"?

Also, apparently this season was dedicated to Kripke's dad who suffered from dementia. I can't think of a worse tribute.
I didn't mind that, Sam is supposed to be excessively strong but shit at fighting and was worse when he was being controlled by Cate and it still took a miracle for Andre to tie with him.
 
Just finished the last episode. This show is retarded. Shock value is king to these writers leading to a really bad case of anecdotal writing. "this happened, and then this happened" - nothing really matters to the point that discussing the events of the story would be a waste of time.

There is no point to the way the story is going. This has the complexity of a storyline in professional wrestling. Except here, the catharsis awaits you next season! Please keep your Amazon Prime subscriptions active :)

I loved when, after witnessing the mess that is season 4, a character walks in and says. "All according to plan". Really? This was your plan. Really? Fuck you. The writers really think they wrote a Death Note this time around.

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So at the end of the day Sister Sage's plan was to wipe Neuman and Singer off the board without collateral damage.

This actually would have failed spectacularly. She knew Homelander would expose Neuman leading to her VP position being pulled, and thought the president would have been killed by the shapeshifter. She vastly underestimated Hughie's ability to identify the assassin and broker a deal with Neuman, and that underestimation would have destroyed her whole plan if Butcher hadn't arrived empowered. Something she had no way of knowing would happen.
 
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