The Boys - An Amazon Prime adaptation of the Ennis comic series

[TheAmbiguousLurker]

On one hand, I like Homelander and Ryan hugging it out because Homelander can actually relate to Ryan's problem. on the other hand, this feels a little too fast with how much Ryan hates and fears Homelander. In fact, I'd say a lot of the wrapping up between characters who were at conflict with one another in this episode feels too fast.

Huh, considering the hearts are Black Noir's hallucination, does this mean he actually does give a shit about Homelander and it isn't just an act to get Homelander's help?

Wait, Hughie's switched sides now? He was still all for the Soldier Boy plan before, but now that he can't take Temp V he wants to stop it?

Of course they kill off Black Noir just as they start to actually explore his interesting dynamic with Homelander.

"Be careful with the gas, it's the only sample left that we can acquire."
"Oh no, we lost the gas!"
"Actually I was lying, I can just make some more."

Anthony Star still carrying this show like a champ.

"We're supposed to be heroes! We can't just kill innocent people to get what we want, even if it's for the greater good." Proceeds to let Frenchie and Kimiko go to town on security guards who are just protecting the tower. God, Annie is the worst part of this season.

That was a lot of build up just to knock Soldier Boy over.

So, Maeve actually could have stood up to Homelander this whole time? Like, even when he's fighting seriously, she can actually wound him and out-manuver him? What the fuck, Maeve!?

I love that paining of Homelander giving the most judgmental stare.

So, Homelander just literally murdered a dude in front of everyone? I get that the media is powerful and people will believe anything, but the ability to cover up Homelander's crimes without him getting more than angry protesters against him is getting to be a bit of a stretch.

 

[Defensive Ella Purnell]

Isn't Soldier Boy from the 1940s?

Sure, he probably was racist but we never saw it. We heard it from MM.

There's a rule in stories, "Show, don't tell".

We was told he did this, and it was constantly reinforced every time we saw him interact with MM but we never actually saw it and he was never actually racist.

It's bad storytelling.

 

[Johan Schmidt]

Sure, he probably was racist but we never saw it. We heard it from MM.

There's a rule in stories, "Show, don't tell".

We was told he did this, and it was constantly reinforced every time we saw him interact with MM but we never actually saw it and he was never actually racist.

It's bad storytelling.

The Legend also said that he was using a firehose in Birmingham, Which makes Soldier Boy based as fuck.

 

[Thirteenfifty]

So, Homelander just literally murdered a dude in front of everyone? I get that the media is powerful and people will believe anything, but the ability to cover up Homelander's crimes without him getting more than angry protesters against him is getting to be a bit of a stretch.

This part really fucking sucked, it's an obvious reference to trump's "I could shoot someone on 5th Avenue and not lose voters" quote. There's no way people could see someone get their head blown clean off in public like that and not immediately start freaking out and panicking. Ryan's reaction was also really out of place for witnessing someone he feared committing a gory murder right in front of him.

 

[Johan Schmidt]

This part really fucking sucked, it's an obvious reference to trump's "I could shoot someone on 5th Avenue and not lose voters" quote. There's no way people could see someone get their head blown clean off in public like that and not immediately start freaking out and panicking. Ryan's reaction was also really out of place for witnessing someone he feared committing a gory murder right in front of him.

The most irksome thing is, they could have just had the guy pull a gun; and try and shoot Ryan. That way when Homelander lasers his head off, the soyjack dad won't look insane for going 'fuck yeah!' and Ryans first view of the 'real' world outside is a normie trying to hurt him, and Homelander defending him again.

Like, two seconds of fucking thought would have the scene make sense and reinforce characterisation we've already seen.

 

[TheAmbiguousLurker]

The most irksome thing is, they could have just had the guy pull a gun; and try and shoot Ryan. That way when Homelander lasers his head off, the soyjack dad won't look insane for going 'fuck yeah!' and Ryans first view of the 'real' world outside is a normie trying to hurt him, and Homelander defending him again.

Like, two seconds of fucking thought would have the scene make sense and reinforce characterisation we've already seen.

To be fair, I'm sure that the concept of this scene is founded in 'People cheer for Homelander killing someone in response to something mild', so they can't have the victim actually do more than throw trash and shit talk. The script needs to be blatant for the audience that the crowd are terrible and will eat up anything Homelander does, otherwise the audience might think the Trump Homelander Supporters aren't all crazy.

 

[Johan Schmidt]

To be fair, I'm sure that the concept of this scene is founded in 'People cheer for Homelander killing someone in response to something mild', so they can't have the victim actually do more than throw trash and shit talk. The script needs to be blatant for the audience that the crowd are terrible and will eat up anything Homelander does, otherwise the audience might think the Trump Homelander Supporters aren't all crazy.

Oh it's definitely because they think the audience is retarded. Thing is, a guy pulling a handgun on Ryan or Homelander is about as threatening as actually throwing spitballs. So you can have it both ways, with the guy pulling a gun drawing the immediate kneejerk reaction of an eye laser, but also have it be an overreaction. Homelander knows he's bulletproof, and knows that Ryan is bulletproof. A normal person could reasonably know both of those thing as well, so the crowd can eat it up, because they're not thinking they're just kneejerk reacting.

But no, you can't have the 'bad chud people' act like actual human beings. They have to all act like violent retards.

 

[Hikaru86]

The most irksome thing is, they could have just had the guy pull a gun; and try and shoot Ryan. That way when Homelander lasers his head off, the soyjack dad won't look insane for going 'fuck yeah!' and Ryans first view of the 'real' world outside is a normie trying to hurt him, and Homelander defending him again.

Like, two seconds of fucking thought would have the scene make sense and reinforce characterisation we've already seen.

You want the writer, who is an absolute retarded faggot, to be reasonable. Not happening.

 

[Power Glove]

I don't really know what went wrong with this season, and certainly the finale. This was weak. So very weak. Anthony Starr slays it as always, but outside of that I really hate what they are doing to these characters. Except Frenchie, the less we see of him, the better. Hell, replace him with Nina for all I care.

 

[Kickster]

The show is getting dumber each season and it looks like they are more concerned with trowing jabs to the right, but damn if they aren't succesful with it.
Seriously, the amount of asses in flames for that reference to that Trump quote is astounding.
A politician made a really dumb statement and a show made fun of it, it's not that deep

 

[Kermit Jizz]

THATS. MY. WIFE'S. SON!

They're doing this on purpose right? There's no way they looked at this script and thought it was good. It's so blatantly awful I have to assume the writers are just openly mocking the fans, and frankly they deserve it.

I'll give the finale this, I couldn't stop laughing for more than a minute or two at a time. That was honestly the worst fucking thing I've seen in quite some time.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

At least Noir's death at Homelander's hands should have bought Soldier Boy's loyalty for him. His son killed the guy who betrayed him to the Russians. That should have tipped SB over to Homelander's side, outside of the fact that the man was his son, accompanied by his grandson.

 

[Thirteenfifty]

I don't really know what went wrong with this season, and certainly the finale. This was weak. So very weak. Anthony Starr slays it as always, but outside of that I really hate what they are doing to these characters. Except Frenchie, the less we see of him, the better. Hell, replace him with Nina for all I care.

Honestly I thought the setup following herogasm was pretty good, I also liked how they were finally developing noir but both of those were ruined.

Much weaker than season 1 though, it seems like they didn't even attempt to fight/kill homelander

 

[Saint Agustin]

. Except Frenchie, the less we see of him, the better. Hell, replace him with Nina for all I care.

Yeah, why the fuck did we get a Frenchie arc?! And now that you mentioned, why did they introduce Nina? Only to serve as a ticket to Russia?! That makes no fucking sense...

What I would have done this season

Frenchie and Kimiko should have died early to give a shock and to propel the plot, especially at the hands of Homelander. Hughie should have went all supe with actual V and not give a fuck about Starlight, changing her to the women who can popped heads (can't remember the name honestly).

Butcher should have used Temp V (and remove the whole "Temp V will kill you") just to make like the distinction between how moral can you be being a supe to having temp powers and still retain your humanity (making Butcher the paragon of humanity with all its fuck ups still being a role model, while Hughie going a darker path, subverting the expectations of him wanting to be like Hughie but he won't).

Starlight should have had a sex scene with Maeve just to understand there are more than friendship between them (just like they did when Butcher fucking Maeve but it went nowhere) and get rid of the whole using social media to topple corporations or figures.

M.M should have went all marine like bodyguard with Ryan, teaching the kid how a real father should act, so that Ryan can understand neither Butcher or Homelander are role models for family, making him even more resolute to stay on the sidelines for now (basically using this season to build him up).

The 7? They did fuck shit in this season, literal filler. Keep them like that, cause nobody gives a shit anymore about A-train. Noir or Deep.

Homelander showed humanity. They should have went even more hammy with him. Antony Star is an awesome actor and he legit carry the season, so we need more Homelander.


That's it. I would have done that instead of all the stupid fucking shit they did, especially the "wholesome %100 big chungus reddit gold" ending with Butcher sipping from a straw watching the "team" all proud.

 

[Kermit Jizz]

Mulling over it a bit more, there's so many things that happened in this episode that made huge swathes of S3 pointless.
What was the point of the SB being HL father? The only thing that actually impacted was HL killing Noir, but SB was going to do that anyway.
What was the point of developing Noir and building up his tensions with SB if they were going to kill him off before they even met up?
Why lock Maeve up at all if she would be freed by a series of contrivances just in time for the big brawl?

Hell, what was the entire point of SB as a character? He killed some characters that were irrelevant. Despite being one of the most powerful characters and HL father he contributed absolutely nothing to the plot. Seriously, how do you fumble absolutely every plotline in one episode.

 

[Calzaghe]

Noir dies, but A-Train lives. Guess they were too big of cucks to kill off two black characters in the same season.

 

[I (Don't) Have A Gun]

Yeah, why the fuck did we get a Frenchie arc?!

Because they wanted a reason to keep talking about pegging.

Unfortunately it did require them to fundamentally gut Frencie's character (although they already did that in season 2). Remember when we met Frenchie he was this weird but violent asshole who told Butcher to fuck off and only decided to help because he got autistic satisfaction from kill supes in weird and interesting ways (another character trait completely forgotten).
Now Frenchie is a soft and misunderstood man with a gentle soul who was dominated by a strong powerful women into doing bad things (also sad childhood), and needed to learn to be his own man.

What was the point of the SB being HL father?

If I'm being very generous the writers wanted to do a bait and switch, give us the impression that SB would side with Homelander so that we could have a tense scene where Homelander brings out the kids and SB needs to take sides. Sadly in execution it fell flat.
If I'm being less charitable, then I'd say in the comics Homelanders kinda-father was Stormfront, so they're just throwing a weird reference to that in or something.

Hell, what was the entire point of SB as a character?

I believe the writers actually told us that, he's suppose to be a representation of toxic masculinity.
You know that scene where Huey does that speech about "I learned that no one's that tough and if they say they are they're lying"... that's it, so the writers could give a speech on how the ideal man is a weak soyboy.

 

[Johan Schmidt]

Annoyingly, Soldier Boy did give kernels of being an interesting character, even in the episode. He talks about how he disappointed his father by taking shortcuts; then when Homelander says 'But I'm you'. Soldier Boy confirms that yes, he basically is, and he's very sorry for that.

The Soldier Boy that keeps getting hinted at, is an unstable, PTSD riddled wreck of man, outside his time, betrayed by people thought were his friends and family, and confronted with the fact that his own child is a murderous, unstable lunatic. You could do something with that, something neat. But no, they just use it as a throwaway line. The problem with this season is that nobody has any actual character; they just do shit for seemingly no reason at all. Starlight tells Huey 'power bad', then randomly gives Kimiko V. Kimiko goes 'killing bad!' and then rocks out to manaic while torturing rent-a-cop security guards to death. Frenchie goes 'Butcher bad!' then ends with 'Butcher okay, me season 1 frenchie now'. Huey goes from being willing to do the job, to pussying out instantly. Not because of the Herogasm massacre, but because of a dead nun?

Soldier Boy is the worst offender for this. Why does he want to kill Homelander? Because he's loyal to the deal Butcher made? If that wasn't the case after Noir died then he could have just ditched and stopped bothering. Is it because he likes Butcher? Is it because he hates Homelander? Who fucking knows. Soldier Boy seems to be doing the same thing Stormfront started doing, where instead of her having a coherent ideology as a national socialist, she was just a generic social darwinist with a touch of 'superhuman good!' But for some reason he hates how whiny Homelander is, so he decides to try and kill him? Soldier Boys character is all over the place, he lacks motivation, and he doesn't make any fucking sense. Why is he doing what he's doing?

 

[Internet War Criminal]

What was the point of developing Noir and building up his tensions with SB if they were going to kill him off before they even met up?

ExPeCtAtIoNs SuBvErTeD

I believe the writers actually told us that, he's suppose to be a representation of toxic masculinity.
You know that scene where Huey does that speech about "I learned that no one's that tough and if they say they are they're lying"... that's it, so the writers could give a speech on how the ideal man is a weak soyboy.

It must fucking chafe them so hard to know that their representation of toxic masculinity and their avatar of trump are by far the two fan favorites.

 

[Stabmaster Arson]

At least Noir's death at Homelander's hands should have bought Soldier Boy's loyalty for him. His son killed the guy who betrayed him to the Russians. That should have tipped SB over to Homelander's side, outside of the fact that the man was his son, accompanied by his grandson.

Yeah, it makes zero fucking sense. Together they would have made a truly great adversary, and all the motivation was there for it to happen.

At least Homelander didn't die. Like everyone else says, he carries the series. Soldier Boy is a close second though. Hope they bring him back before too long.

If you're reading this Seth, you drug addled, hook-nosed hack - have Homelander keep lowering SB's knockout gas so he's weak enough to wake up and talk, but not fight back. So they can talk. And eventually team up.