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TheHarbinger said:
Black Noir pathetically dying is probably the best writing on the show. You are meant to feel like him. The show builds up this huge revenge plot where Noir is a childlike figure and Soldier Boy is this huge demented bully idiot. And finally after decades of waiting Noir is going to get to at least confront his tormentor one last time even if it costs him his life. It was the classic revenge fantasy. But on this show revenge is always shown to be fruitless and pointless.

So all of the building up of the Noir revenge plots ends in a literal gut punch. A fatal gut punch. That kills Noir and simultaneously takes the wind out of the viewers. It was meant to be brutal and make you feel like shit. Because revenge fantasies only end in misery and shit. Which is a major theme of the show. That chasing revenge gets you nowhere. Huey is chasing revenge for Robin. Butcher is chasing revenge for Homelander and Becca. Soldier Boy was chasing revenge against his entire team and Vought. None of them are doing anything heroic. None of them are heroes. They are just chasing down personal vendettas.

Noir's death was a preview of the series finale in all likelihood. They will all die chasing down their own glory.
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Sounds like TLOU : 2 🤮
 
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Its odd that they are making Homelander seem to actually care about his sons well being above everything else if your going to go down the ryan will eventually turn on him route.

twice in this episode alone homelander put ryans well being above everything else (when Soldier boy throws him into the wall he immediately ignores SB and makes sure ryans allright something that nearly gets him killed, and at the end where the dude throws the thing at him, HL immediately puts himself between ryan and the guy.)


and now Ryans allready seen HL kills people, so i dunno what HL is gunna have to do to turn his son against him.

SB not dying is an obvious chekovs gun, you dont put a bloke on ice unless you intend to bring him back
 
Salt_Merchant said:
Its odd that they are making Homelander seem to actually care about his sons well being above everything else if your going to go down the ryan will eventually turn on him route.
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Mild spergery ahead but that's kinda the trend again lately. "Son rejects evil masculine father and kills him to resume living his truth!" It's just more sloppy writing probably from the same little writers room full of jews like that fat one that writes the cape shit in the show. So we'll see a lot more of this type of shit where Homelander tries to get close to Ryan, Ryan distrusts him, Homelander fucks up, Ryan rejects him. Eventually Ryan will be the one to kill Homelander and it will be heralded as A Good Thing.

On the bright side at least that plotline makes sense. My ass is still MATI over what this oedipal Hollywood trend did to Dexter.
 
I'm not done with the episode yet, but I have to say that I am fucking fucking glad that Maeve is dead. I don't think I realized until this episode how much she'd been grating to me for a while now. When Homelander was beating the shit out of her and poked her eye out, I was like 'Fuck that bitch'.

though I'll say her line about Hughie being a bottom was chuckle worthy.

Disappointed with Noir's death, it feels like they did nothing with that character and now they just killed him and it's like, there was no point having him in the show. I hope they bring him back as a clone of homelander for the last season or some shit. Otherwise, what a fucking waste.

Edit: FUUUUUUUCK SHE'S NOT DEAD. Hopefully she uses this to disappear from the show or some shit.

That last shot, they've basically set up Ryan as the villain for the last season and butcher's final quest.

What a disappointing fucking finale. Why is Soldier Boy even dead? He blew up before like that, nothing happened to him. Him being dead but Maeve being alive makes no fucking sense.

X-Shaped Weeaboo said:
Fuck man, I was really digging this season and they fumbled at the fucking 10 yard line. What a god-damn disgrace.
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Best fucking way to put it.
 
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If their piss poor decisions make this a 5 season show, then what a waste of time this show'll be. As I said before, next season needs to be the last. I was on REEEE-Era looking at their thread and was brought to my attention that The Boys are basically worse off and essentially back where they started in the beginning of this season. Also, that Butcher was welcomed back, disregarding all the horrible things he unleashed on not only them but random individuals, mainly civilians and not the supes- they're scum. Thanks for polishing this gold turd :) !
 
When the Kenobi show manages to be even less of a disappointment than this, I have no words.

So let's recap: Butcher is a fucking hypocrite who pushes Soldier Boy to kill his own son, but he backs out when he sees Homelander acting like a father towards Ryan, ruining EVERYTHING that he worked towards this whole season. Soldier Boy is just an asshole who just used the whole "I am your father" thing to get close to kill his own son, and he also has no qualms with harming or killing his own grandson. Homelander is the same attention-starved manchild that he always was, except this time, he manages to come out as the most honorable person out of them, because he was just defending his son, he wanted to love his dad, and he tried to have all three of them join together as one family, especially since a family is the one thing he's lacked this whole time; a family is what he desperately needs. And yet he's still meant to be the villain we're supposed to hate.

What is happening with this show? Who the fuck do we root for? Starlight? The naive girl who threw away every advantage handed to her in a silver platter and got her old boyfriend killed by involving him in a plot to kill Homelander? Maeve? Well, she lost her powers, but I wouldn't be surprised if she gets them back with another dose of the blue V. Hughie? The guy who evolved from a pussy to a fighter, but then his real moment was when he let the girls handle it instead of fighting himself? I suppose that leaves Victoria "I can't believe it's not AOC" Neuman to root for, since she's still a government official. But considering how she's portrayed, isn't she evil, too?

If this show is just one cavalcade of assholes and morons killing each other, then I wouldn't be all that invested in them outside of seeing them getting their comeuppance.

The only person who was left that I was rooting for was Black Noir, and he went to the pearly gates in the sky with his cartoon buddies. I suppose Stan Edgar is the last hope to root for, but when will he return?

The Kenobi show fumbled at the middle but got better with the finale. Season 3 of the Boys had interesting concepts and conflicts being explored in the beginning and the middle, but fizzled out like a premature climax by the end.
 
So where do you think they take Ryan in S4? Are they going for 90s Superboy, mid 2000s edgy Superboy or the most obvious, Superboy Prime.
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It’s one of the three.
 
Watching Huey surgically remove his own testicles; with just words is actually painfully.

Starlight is an affliction on that man, holy fuck.

Edit: Every single male in this show has been systematically emasculated by sour faced, mediocre bitches.
 
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I knew there would be a cop out of some kind so there wouldn't be a confrontation with Homelander. The cop out was really lame; now suddenly Ryan trusts Homelander? Wut? Plot convenience, lazy writing, blah blah blah. I still skip almost every single scene with Frenchie and Michiko. Also, it's like the writers remembered "Oh yeah, Homelander caught Maeve. We gotta' do something with her!"

Also, also, Starbright is completely fucking worthless. She did next to nothing this season. She was written to be way too bitchy. And every single time she is about to use her powers she either backs off or the likes of Homelander say's "You know you can't do anything so it put it away" and she does so. It's like a drinking game with the number of times this happens. Even in the final battle she is worthless.

I guess I'll keep going with the show. Here's how I'd rank the seasons:

Season 1: 10/10

Season 2: 6.5/10 Maybe a 7 tops?

Season 3: 8/10 mainly because of some legendary gags. Otherwise maybe a 7.5? Because ultimately what happened this season? The Boys are using the serum to get the super powers, Maeve leaves the Seven, and Black Noir dies. Otherwise the plot has not really advanced by much. Soldier Boy isn't even dead. Ryan is now Homelander's sidekick.

The whole thing with Ryan going with Homelander could have been set up better? Maybe Ryan feels powerless and wants that power?

Looks like season 4 is going to be the last. Good.
 
This season finale was really fucking terrible. I think I was really fucking frustrated for most of the episode with pretty much everything and everyone with the exception of Soldier Boy.

Mauve could 1v1 Homelander like that the whole time?! WTF! And then they just all watched as he walked away with Ryan..? And for what? So we could get a bunch of really forced “girl power” moments with YouTube tier CGI. And to top it off Mauve somehow fucking survived. This show could have been good.

Edit: Forgot to mention, love how Starlight’s moment ultimately amounts to nothing against Soldier Boy. There’s this big build of of bad CGI light power bullshit and I’m sure it was meant to be a big deal but all it does is knock Soldier Boy over briefly. So that was fun.
 
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BrunoMattei said:
I knew there would be a cop out of some kind so there wouldn't be a confrontation with Homelander. The cop out was really lame; now suddenly Ryan trusts Homelander? Wut? Plot convenience, lazy writing, blah blah blah. I still skip almost every single scene with Frenchie and Michiko. Also, it's like the writers remembered "Oh yeah, Homelander caught Maeve. We gotta' do something with her!"

Also, also, Starbright is completely fucking worthless. She did next to nothing this season. She was written to be way too bitchy. And every single time she is about to use her powers she either backs off or the likes of Homelander say's "You know you can't do anything so it put it away" and she does so. It's like a drinking game with the number of times this happens. Even in the final battle she is worthless.

I guess I'll keep going with the show. Here's how I'd rank the seasons:

Season 1: 10/10

Season 2: 6.5/10 Maybe a 7 tops?

Season 3: 8/10 mainly because of some legendary gags. Otherwise maybe a 7.5? Because ultimately what happened this season? The Boys are using the serum to get the super powers, Maeve leaves the Seven, and Black Noir dies. Otherwise the plot has not really advanced by much. Soldier Boy isn't even dead. Ryan is now Homelander's sidekick.

The whole thing with Ryan going with Homelander could have been set up better? Maybe Ryan feels powerless and wants that power?

Looks like season 4 is going to be the last. Good.
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The first post of yours I disagree with >:-(
 
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The last 20 minutes or so pretty much made the entire season completely pointless by pressing a big reset button and not offing anyone that important.
 
I'm convince that Seth Rogan has become a complete retard due to all the weed he smoke throughout the years eating his brain.
 
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So Maeve's power is plot armor?
* She can stand toe-to-toe against Homelander and even deal significant damage/tank his lasers
* She can tank soldierboy's fully charged explosion (something even Homelander is afraid of) and walk off with a couple of bruises and her powers intact.
* She's immune to sleeping gas when the plot conviniently wants her to.
 
>tfw no Chudlander dad

I enjoyed this season, not as good as the first one but still mainly enjoyable. Chudlander's performances probably bump it up to a 8/10 alone.

Gender: Xenomorph said:
So Maeve's power is plot armor?
* She can stand toe-to-toe against Homelander and even deal significant damage/tank his lasers
* She can tank soldierboy's fully charged explosion (something even Homelander is afraid of) and walk off with a couple of bruises and her powers intact.
* She's immune to sleeping gas when the plot conviniently wants her to.
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Sorry for double post but I can't edit in quotes.

I always had Maeve down as a distant second to Homelander, like she'd be able to hold her own for a bit but would have no chance of actually winning. The Soldierboy blast thing was the one thing I don't think was in character. Sleeping gas I'm willing to suspend disbelief and say maybe they didn't use enough or whatever, she was conked out initially in the van anyway.

Final thought, goddamn Ashley looked fucking fine in that zebra dress.
 
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Hitman One said:
Sorry for double post but I can't edit in quotes.

I always had Maeve down as a distant second to Homelander, like she'd be able to hold her own for a bit but would have no chance of actually winning. The Soldierboy blast thing was the one thing I don't think was in character. Sleeping gas I'm willing to suspend disbelief and say maybe they didn't use enough or whatever, she was conked out initially in the van anyway.

Final thought, goddamn Ashley looked fucking fine in that zebra dress.
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Nevertheless Soldier Boy's blast should have influcted 4th degree burns at least
 
Mukhrani said:
This is where you can see the political beliefs of the author bleeding through and just making a complete mess of the plot. They view WWII in a downright schizophrenic way, because they can't reconcile the fact that the racist, sexist, bigotted early 20th century America that they spend the rest of the show bashing were one of the major contributors to the destruction of Nazi Germany. In the mind of your garden-variety modern liberal, the real enemies of Nazism - a pretty much dead ideology - aren't the people who killed it. It's the modern suburban larpers who were born after it was a real threat, and who constantly tilt at windmills with swastikas slapped on them. They associate the people that they hate (rural and religious ones) with Nazism, and then shriek and holler impotently while smugly dismissing the soldiers who actually fought against it. Take this outlook and slap it onto the otherwise decent characters and story that they established in season one and you get a total clusterfuck. Someone like Stormfront has to be an ardent Nazi, an all-American Xenophobe, and a modern 4-chan troll because those things are all bad and scary. So you end up with the absurdity of a supposedly high-ranking Nazi having intense racial animus towards a Japanese man, siding with the country that destroyed the Third Reich, and running some kind of meme mill. Does this all make sense together? No. But the author is braindead, and he saw on CNN that Trump is a NAZI, America is RACIST, and memes spread BIGOTRY, so he just decided to mash all three themes together with zero consideration for the character's motivations or beliefs.
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aka a kike.
trent said:
The last 20 minutes or so pretty much made the entire season completely pointless by pressing a big reset button and not offing anyone that important.
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people have been whining about this when it comes to streaming shows for about a decade now; sense8 was the first but the most sterotypical streaming show of the modern era. the creators swore they had a 5 season plan, but of the two seasons made, it was mostly wheel spinning until the last episode. every episode after the premiere and before the finale could be compressed into one and everyone would have been better off. Beyond that was the constant DIE characters and anti-white male moments of the series. Honestly the only reason it didn't have trump or 4chan stand ins as evil enemies was because it was before trump won,

just resets in general were the norm on tv until "the golden age of tv" almost no tv shows really changed the status quo unless it was something like members of the cast written out. if you wanted big events with repercussions every episode for decades, watch soap operas.

i'm reminded of USA channel shows, like suits or burn notice. they'd set up this big villain, slowly have them build up to a major conflict only for him to be easily taken care of in the span of 90 minutes and a new big bad brought in. Supernatural got away with this for about 15 years. people are expecting stuff they shouldn't from streaming.

i assure you everyone involved in this would rather die than stop this money train, and the showrunner is extremely well known for keeping the wheels spinning way past when they should have broken off.
 
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