The Boys - An Amazon Prime adaptation of the Ennis comic series

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To be fair, they didn't know Homelander or any of the Seven was going to be there, it just so happened that all parties involved assumed Soldier Boy would go for the Twins first.
I suppose that makes sense. Though I'd like to see how they'd engage Homelander in the future, especially with Starlight turning against Soldier Boy.

Hell, the civilian love interest feeling insecure and useless in the world of superheroes isn't exactly a rare story arc for Superheroes. So treating it as a 'God, men just can't handle women being stronger than them' is just weird.
And the funny thing is, Hughie isn't even stronger than Starlight. She still has more experience and fighting power, it's just that he can now be of more use to the team, having more strength and a teleportation ability. And yet Starlight is pissed off at that? The man is finally useful in a combat setting, but in the current year, men wanting to be useful in a fight is just translates to toxic masculinity. None of Starlight's actions make any sense outside of her getting pissed at Soldier Boy for causing collateral damage.

If I were Annie, I'd just give Hughie the blue stuff so he can be a supe permanently. Also, if she wants Soldier Boy dead, why doesn't she just use her position in Vought to egg on Homelander and the other Supes to do it? That way, Soldier Boy would get killed, and Homelander would likely get killed or severely injured, which would give Starlight her chance to off Homelander and seize control of the Seven and Vought. Then she'd have real power to affect change.

He's not aware of what it's doing to him. He just blacks out and sees the results as he tells Hughie about not knowing what happened with M.M and is utterly unaware of why the Herogasm suddenly looks like someone blew it up.
You'd think he'd eventually put two and two together. I'd like to see how Butcher eventually deals with this.
 
Also, if she wants Soldier Boy dead, why doesn't she just use her position in Vought to egg on Homelander and the other Supes to do it? That way, Soldier Boy would get killed, and Homelander would likely get killed or severely injured, which would give Starlight her chance to off Homelander and seize control of the Seven and Vought. Then she'd have real power to affect change.
Because she doesn't want to 'sell her soul', she wants to beat Homelander and Vought the clean way... The clean way that this show has constantly shown doesn't work.
 
I know Homelander's writing keeps getting the spotlight in this show, but I really have to hand it to the crew handling the show. This episode perfectly handled his character. All of season 3 we've been grappling with the fact that Homelander has finally broken and that the only reason he hasn't gone apeshit with his powers is because he realizes that people are afraid of that and that gives him his authority. Up to this episode, the idea of him letting loose and getting murder-y has been the ace up his sleeve, even after Edgar told him that he was running head-first into a brand-new nightmare.

And then he loses the fight versus The Boys and his trump card actually almost got him killed. It's actually really satisfying to see him at his lowest point here. He's tried everything including the one thing he thought made him special. Homelander's looking at probably the first bruise he's ever had in his life, and that inner self from earlier in the episode telling him he's better than human is nowhere to be seen. Now more than ever dude's never felt more human and he's lost almost all of his resources keeping him afloat. What does he do now? He's now scared to fight Butcher and Soldier Boy. Him and the Deep are the only members of The Seven left. The word's gotten out and he's at the worst place mentally in his life to actually make good on his promise to "light this candle."

I wasn't totally enthralled with the entire episode, but this shit was really good. And, of course, Homelander vs the Boys was actually kind of entertaining. I think the only other thing I'm a super big fan of regarding the episode is A-Train's death. This dude had it coming the entire series and while it sucks for his family that's he bit the dust, at least now he can stop emotionally torturing them with his douchebaggery.
 
Nice to see that even the writers are bored of frenchie and kimiko what with them only being in the episode for 5 minutes, completely disconnected from anything vaguely important to the plot.
 
Because she doesn't want to 'sell her soul', she wants to beat Homelander and Vought the clean way... The clean way that this show has constantly shown doesn't work.
Exactly. The clean way doesn't work. Supersonic's death and Stan Edgar getting ousted by Homelander proved that, but Annie can't get it through her thick skull. Especially when the head-popper (Victoria Neuman) even offered her protection from Homelander in exchange for passing an education reform bill, and Starlight rebuked her instead, which made no sense. She's being offered power on a silver platter and she turns it away because the show wants to cast her as the noble light in opposition to Butcher and Hughie's dark pragmatism of using Soldier Boy against Homelander. But what does she have to offer? Instagram followers? She's setting herself up as a third faction that the other two can easily squash like a bug.

On the one side, you've got Soldier Boy, whose battle expertise means that he can easily crush her in battle, or he can use his nuclear blast to depower/vaporize her. On the other side is Homelander and the Vought media empire, with its propaganda wing, its supporters, and Homelander's powers and strength, which are still greater than Soldier Boy's. Homelander is a wounded animal, but he's not beaten yet, and either one of them can easily crush Starlight and her little third faction. Homelander still has tons of support from the populace, and it won't surprise me at all if Soldier Boy manages to get more than a few experienced veterans to side with him against Homelander and Starlight. Especially when Homelander himself freaked out about the idea of Soldier Boy turning rogue, since he's basically a cultural icon in their world.

And then he loses the fight versus The Boys and his trump card actually almost got him killed. It's actually really satisfying to see him at his lowest point here. He's tried everything including the one thing he thought made him special. Homelander's looking at probably the first bruise he's ever had in his life, and that inner self from earlier in the episode telling him he's better than human is nowhere to be seen. Now more than ever dude's never felt more human and he's lost almost all of his resources keeping him afloat. What does he do now? He's now scared to fight Butcher and Soldier Boy. Him and the Deep are the only members of The Seven left. The word's gotten out and he's at the worst place mentally in his life to actually make good on his promise to "light this candle."
It's actually interesting that his "inner self" wasn't there after his fight with Soldier Boy. It looks like he'll have to embrace his human side after all, since his superpowered side couldn't stop two roided-up chumps and an old relic from a bygone age.
 
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It's actually interesting that his "inner self" wasn't there after his fight with Soldier Boy. It looks like he'll have to embrace his human side after all, since his superpowered side couldn't stop two roided-up chumps and an old relic from a bygone age.

Knowing that Homelander could be hurt so easily and almost died to essentially 1 and 2/3rd supes makes me want to see the military wipe-out sequence from the comic happen in the show.

The horror on Homelander's face when supes like him are absolutely fucked by modern military technology would be to die for.
 
Knowing that Homelander could be hurt so easily and almost died to essentially 1 and 2/3rd supes makes me want to see the military wipe-out sequence from the comic happen in the show.

The horror on Homelander's face when supes like him are absolutely fucked by modern military technology would be to die for.
Shit, you can even have soldiers taking V-24 and wiping out Homelander and his supes. Imagine Super Butcher, but a couple thousand of him.

But my guess is that Homelander will have to embrace his human side and consort with the "mud people" in order to boost his legitimacy, knowing now that he can be killed.
 
Knowing that Homelander could be hurt so easily and almost died to essentially 1 and 2/3rd supes makes me want to see the military wipe-out sequence from the comic happen in the show.

The horror on Homelander's face when supes like him are absolutely fucked by modern military technology would be to die for.
Honestly, I'm kinda sad it turns out Homelander is as easily hurt as Stormfront. It makes me reassess how scary he's been in previous scenes.

His superspeed and ability to laser entire crowds make him look nearly unstoppable in previous episodes but, like with Stormfront, his power level is apparently based on the mood of the writers. I do not like and am seethe >:(
 
Hell, the civilian love interest feeling insecure and useless in the world of superheroes isn't exactly a rare story arc for Superheroes. So treating it as a 'God, men just can't handle women being stronger than them' is just weird.
They've had the same exact conversation twice now and both times were written with a conspicuous gap where you're meant to yell at the TV so I think it's purposeful. It's irritating but it wouldn't be redundant like that if they weren't building it up for some reason

Goddam. Starlight is just the worst.
It's hard to tell if the implication is meant to be that she's been huffing her own goodie two-shoes farm girl thing too hard or what. I'd almost prefer if she was just a pure example of a "good guy" being out of place in this universe instead of her also being a cunt.

My guess is she's gonna die before Hughie mutates a set of balls though and that'll be the thing that gets the band back together. It's hard to see her ever getting on-side otherwise and it'd explain her being paired with MM.
 
The season finale is going to be Hughie fucking over Butcher and Soldier Boy by teleporting them away just as they are about to kill Homelander in an explosion that Starlight and MM would also get killed in.
 
Hot takes:
Erin Moriarty has the hottest voice on television, I need her to whisper sweet, sheer filth into my ear. Why did they let her get bogged? WHY?

Ashley gets sexier every episode, what the fuck. Power and confidence are real things I guess.

I'm glad that faggot nigger wog A-Train finally got btfo.

The big fight was shit.

We need more Deep.
 
It's hard to tell if the implication is meant to be that she's been huffing her own goodie two-shoes farm girl thing too hard or what. I'd almost prefer if she was just a pure example of a "good guy" being out of place in this universe instead of her also being a cunt.

My guess is she's gonna die before Hughie mutates a set of balls though and that'll be the thing that gets the band back together. It's hard to see her ever getting on-side otherwise and it'd explain her being paired with MM.
She's also just kind of a retard. She seems to have forgotten that conversation she and Homelander had where he told her flat out that if she ruins his reputation, he will destroy the entire United States. Because her going on the air and saying 'Homelander actually evil, and did this' is dangerously close to pulling the rug out from under him.

It's also very strange that she's so unsympathetic to Hughie feeling helpless. Hughies entire history when dealing with supes has been tragedy born of powerlessness. His girlfriend was murdered right in front of him, and he couldn't do anything. His father turned on him because of how scared he was of supes, Translucent nearly casually killed him and he barely got through that. He has been hunted by the government, and by literal super humans for months on end. He found out that his best efforts to do good, were co-opted by a woman that blatantly murdered dozens of members of government. His new girlfriend has been repeatedly threatened with death by Homelander and he can't help her, she's being forced into a - fake - relationship with Homelander and he can't help her. Hughie feels entirely useless, and helpless in a world with walking demi-gods. Starlight isn't a moron, she knows this, and when he tells her that he just wants to save her, to help. She insults him, and implies he's a piece of shit for trying. It's especially weird when her main problem is 'HeS a MuRDerer!' because he killed Crimson Countess, and accidentally iced some people. Starlight has killed people, A-Train, Hughie, MM, Butcher, Kimiko, fucking everyone at this point has unlawfully killed people. But the one guy that can maybe killed Homelander is where she draws a line? Fuck off,.

I know it's not what they're going for, but Starlight is - like Homelander - the epitome of why superhumans are a problem. She cannot fathom how her operating on a level blatantly above Hughie makes him feel. He's not emasculated, he's terrified. Her world isn't the same as his, and by dint of loving her, he has to operate in it. He's so extremely vulnerable that someone like A-Train could jog past him and the force that generates would turn his bones to jelly. He can't be of any use as a normal human, because normal humans are worthless compared to superhumans. When he tried, a superhuman made it all pointless. She's failing at something as basic as relationship empathy. When my girlfriend is upset, or scared, or angry; I try and figure out why, and how I'd feel in the same situation. I don't roll my eyes and go 'wow, just wow. This is all you huh?'. Starlight is a terrible person. She's not strong, or brave, or particularly 'stunning'. She's a cunt, that's gotten so used to being powerful that she can't empathise with people that are powerless.

Also: They're really ditching all of the Deeps possible character development huh. Wild. A-train fag dragging Blue Hawk was funny. Sex stuff was boring, and the shock value was pretty low.

Soldier Boy seems an interesting character, but I get the feeling they're going to fuck it up and make him generic and one note by the end of it all. I did really like how confused he was that the US was in Afghanistan, where he seemed genuinely angry about people that he fought with and for are now the enemies of the US. The fact that it was mixed with a Cosby rape joke makes me think it was meant as more of a 'Lol, he's ignorant' thing than it was supposed to be a sad part of his character. The persona he has now really doesn't fit with the story of him murdering people that we're being told. It's actually pretty jarring.
 
I know it's not what they're going for
I dunno, how many good supes are there?
The Girl is sweet and everything but she's also a self-loathing murder tornado (justifiably yeah, but if she'd settled down in a provincial french cottage and stopped getting her blood quota you could kind of see her skinning the milkman one day; she herself seems to think so). And there's some arguable ones in the manga funnybooks iirc but they either don't count for the show or haven't been explored.
Maybe starlight really was always just a slow-burn Super White Girl, the most insidious form of evil.
 
I dunno, how many good supes are there?
The Girl is sweet and everything but she's also a self-loathing murder tornado (justifiably yeah, but if she'd settled down in a provincial french cottage and stopped getting her blood quota you could kind of see her skinning the milkman one day; she herself seems to think so). And there's some arguable ones in the manga funnybooks iirc but they either don't count for the show or haven't been explored.
Maybe starlight really was always just a slow-burn Super White Girl, the most insidious form of evil.
It's kind what it feels like. Being superhuman, means everything gets exploded out. All your flaws became larger, as do all your good points. Starlight is pleasant, and cheery, and sweet. But she's also pretty fucking vapid, incredibly self centred, and thinks she can solve everything with just a casual chat and a declaration of 'No, that's WRONG!'. Her recording at the end of the episode would - in the world of the Boys presented up until this episode - cause Homelander to just say 'fuck it' and demolish American infrastructure and government. It won't, because otherwise the story would end. But that's what it should cause.
 
So that was a pretty good episode. Probably the best this season is gonna get, especially considering
It won't, because otherwise the story would end. But that's what it should cause.

I expected Serge and Kimiko to die this episode but Kimiko overpowered that Russian guy somehow? It felt that she's getting strong again. A hint her powers might be coming back? Retarded that Nina only had like two people with her but ehh, I guess the writers just couldn't close the curtains on their favorite frog and waifu yet.

I think they've played too many cards this episode to hit those sweet emotional peaks. I hope they weren't writing these episodes as they went along, because this is going to be a tough corner for them to write themselves out of.
 
Her recording at the end of the episode would - in the world of the Boys presented up until this episode - cause Homelander to just say 'fuck it' and demolish American infrastructure and government. It won't, because otherwise the story would end. But that's what it should cause.
It seems like a decent move on her part (a better one would to not be a cunt to the guys with a real solution) because unlike the airline video it's deniable. If she'd tacked that on the end Homelander would really be in a corner, but right now he's made himself the head of the machine that works by refuting and covering up this kind of thing. He wanted that power and this is the very situation it's made for so now it's an awkward position to immediately accede to violence like the juggernaut isn't even stronger with him running things. I'm sure he'd hugely prefer the flight vid so he could simply make good on the threat, instead she's sidestepped it in favour of a death of a thousand cuts thing knowing he's already on his last bananas.

Like think from Homelander's perspective thinking from the perspective of the public who he's currently enjoying a spike in popularity with. If she posted the video he could just cackle and kick over the sand castle. If he did that now... they'd just be kind of confused, she didn't have any proof or anything and she isn't more trusted; it's not like Vaught wouldn't have had a narrative for those corpses already in the pipe. She could just be a bitch girlfriend airing her soggy rag on instagram.
Proving her right means he loses, compared to losing first being out of his hands and just getting to enjoy revenge.
 
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