The Boys - An Amazon Prime adaptation of the Ennis comic series

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God of Nothing said:
worse
coming home to darkseid on your couch
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Especially with how short his skirt/kilt thing is.

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A Very Big Fish said:
I mean, living in pretty much any comic city would be a nightmare. Trying to enjoy your weekend, when bam, Darkseid boom-tubes onto mainstreet with an army of parademons, and the rest of your day off is spent in a bunker while the Justice League throws your car at him.
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I dunno, Central City seems pretty tame since the most dangerous supervillain there just wants to fuck with the local superhero on increasingly petty levels.
 
LORD IMPERATOR said:
I don't think they had robots that can bench-press a truck while also flying and shooting lasers. That, and Vought's specialty is bioengineering and pharmaceuticals, not robotics. They're not Stark Industries or Baktoid Armor Workshop.
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You have these things called "construction equipment" which can effortlessly lift tons and doesn't disobey. Check out Supergod by Warren Ellis for an example of how making Supermen IRL can go. Robots can certainly bench-press a truck while also flying and shooting lasers, steel is stronger than muscular tissue but we're operating on comic logic.
 
demicolon said:
You have these things called "construction equipment" which can effortlessly lift tons and doesn't disobey. Check out Supergod by Warren Ellis for an example of how making Supermen IRL can go. Robots can certainly bench-press a truck while also flying and shooting lasers, steel is stronger than muscular tissue but we're operating on comic logic.
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Vought doesn't specialize in making them. That's not their forte; their forte, as I said, is bioengineering and pharmaceuticals.

Also, criminals can easily hijack construction equipment.
 
I spared myself the flagellation of actually watching the Boys and have found this review of the series instead.

So here's the breakdown of the show and why it's so shitty, the first season had actual intrigue and decent writing because one of the writers was Vince Gilligan of Breaking Bad fame, but he left after Season 1 and the other writer, a Jewish man by the name of Eric Kripke, took over. The moment Kripke gets behind the wheel is when the series becomes an unwatchable shitshow of ridiculously cruel and degenerate caricatures of superheroes meant to lampoon right wingers.

Thing is, this sort of writing rings a lot of bells in my head, I remember it from shit like the Walking Dead and Game of Thrones and a lot of other shows that are just hazy fogs in my memory.

I have to ask, are most Jewish people this obnoxious or is this just a Hollywood thing? Are there any Jewish writers that are any good at actually writing or is Jewish writing just a long cascade of open and hostile contempt for audiences?
 
I know the entire show is full of exploding assholes and other Jewish degeneracy but as an animal lover and someone really into conservation I really disliked the running "gag" of The Deep's sea creature friends being gruesomely mutilated and killed in front of him for no reason at all other than zoosadist shock value.
 
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Jace on ice said:
I know the entire show is full of exploding assholes and other Jewish degeneracy but as an animal lover and someone really into conservation I really disliked the running "gag" of The Deep's sea creature friends being gruesomely mutilated and killed in front of him for no reason at all other than zoosadist shock value.
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That's always puzzled me. Why they're so gung-ho to make such disgusting, degenerate content, but God forbid you make something that makes straight men happy. God forbid you make Soldier Boy have morals and decency so that men can rally behind him. God forbid you make Homelander half-redeemable especially given how he's an abuse victim who turned into a feral animal. And yes, as a dog lover, I can see why others might not like the show, especially with how they abuse the Deep by abusing his friends.

They have no problem with a fake actor Jesus acting like a wimp before Homelander, but they're the kind of people who get offended when an anime character looks sexy.

MarvinTheParanoidAndroid said:
I have to ask, are most Jewish people this obnoxious or is this just a Hollywood thing? Are there any Jewish writers that are any good at actually writing or is Jewish writing just a long cascade of open and hostile contempt for audiences?
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The guys who made Superman are Jewish, and so is Stan Lee of Marvel fame. So there are at least some good Jewish capeshit writers. Too bad none worked in this show.

MarvinTheParanoidAndroid said:
I spared myself the flagellation of actually watching the Boys and have found this review of the series instead.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=LXT8G-uBHKQ
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Just watch clips of Homelander and Soldier Boy being cool or aura farming, and you're good to go.

MarvinTheParanoidAndroid said:
So here's the breakdown of the show and why it's so shitty, the first season had actual intrigue and decent writing because one of the writers was Vince Gilligan of Breaking Bad fame, but he left after Season 1 and the other writer, a Jewish man by the name of Eric Kripke, took over. The moment Kripke gets behind the wheel is when the series becomes an unwatchable shitshow of ridiculously cruel and degenerate caricatures of superheroes meant to lampoon right wingers.
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Season 1 obviously made fun of Disney and the MCU. The later seasons were a bad Trump analogy, to the point where actors like Anthony Starr (Homelander) tried to fight back and remind Kripke that Homelander is not a 1 to 1 analogy for Trump.

Also, lampooning right-wingers by attacking superheroes kinda makes sense, because conservatives who ideally stick to their principles like superhero culture. I've seen enough religious conservative people who like superheroes, so making superheroes into sadistic degenerates to strike at them, it's a crude logic, but one I can understand.

It's just that later generations won't give a shit about Kripke's anti-superhero boner. Especially since most young'uns are manga and anime fans which have positive examples of superheroes. They probably know My Hero Academia or One Punch Man more than they know The Boys, and those two shows have GOOD superheroes running around town and being heroic.

And the irony is, those shows have governments that regulate the superheroes; they're more realistic and more lived-in than the world of the Boys. Even Garth Ennis' comic looks like shit compared to OPM and MHA's world where the governments actually make sure you can't just do superhero vigilantism on your own.

MarvinTheParanoidAndroid said:
Thing is, this sort of writing rings a lot of bells in my head, I remember it from shit like the Walking Dead and Game of Thrones and a lot of other shows that are just hazy fogs in my memory.
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Game of Thrones died because the writers wanted to do Star Wars. The Walking Dead went on for too long before someone put it out of its misery.

The Boys was done in by internal sabotage; by someone who wanted to focus more on shitting on Trump rather than telling a good story with superheroes/supervillains, which is something Season 1 tried to do.
 
harmy.kook said:
Same feeling I got over the "joke" if Butcher's dog wanting to fuck Homelander.

Like a Furfag wrote this.
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The weird thing is the running animal torture gore "joke" isn't in the comics. It's something added to the show as if the source material wasn't degenerate enough.

I assume the only reason it exists is Kripke or someone else on the production team jerks off to zoosadist shit.
 
BubbaRobot887 said:
Don't mess with Hollywood Jews, They've never read the Torah!
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Ironically, their attitude is what invited the judgement from the Assyrians and Babylonians.

harmy.kook said:
Same feeling I got over the "joke" if Butcher's dog wanting to fuck Homelander.

Like a Furfag wrote this.
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Jace on ice said:
The weird thing is the running animal torture gore "joke" isn't in the comics. It's something added to the show as if the source material wasn't degenerate enough.

I assume the only reason it exists is Kripke or someone else on the production team jerks off to zoosadist shit.
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They feel free adding the kind of thing that only sick people jack off to. I mean, if MM getting a full-facial blast of splooge didn't convince you already, the writers have a lot of kinks they're working through with the show.
 
So I've intentionally avoided reading anything in this thread since the first episode dropped and have only now just finished watching season five. And I scrolled past every other post so apologies if I cover anything already said in this thread.

...Might be an unpopular opinion, but I'm fine with that ending. Nothing special, but it was fine. It ended the fight between Butcher and Homelander the way I wanted it. Not quite, I still think Butcher should have keeled over after the fight after his lesions overpowered him, but at least the end was just two regular dudes duking it out. As for the season, it undid some of the problems I had with four. Not everything, but Sage wasn't infallible, Hughie was allowed to be more than a joke, Starlight got called out for being a cunt, and for the most part the deaths didn't feel cheap.

My main issue is the fact that the franchise is clearly going to continue afterwards, they kept a lot of open threads so the story can continue. I feel like The Deep should have gotten the redemption arc instead of Firecracker considering he's the one we've been with the entire show but he's the symbol for the manosphere so we can't have him living. Ashley redeeming herself but still getting arrested was funny, and a satisfying conclusion considering all the shit she did. Ryan going with MM instead of Hughie and Annie wasn't what I expected but at least MM got his family back.

Also, the reveal that Soldier Boy was in love with Stormfront just came out of nowhere, considering in season 3 he barely acknowledged her and was more focused on Crimson Countess but whatever. They didn't try to undo what made people like him in season 3, though they did tone him down a little. I do find it funny that as soon as Sister Sage lost her smarts she became a complete moron. An interesting take on the average black woman you have there, Kripke.

But yeah, I'm okay with that ending. When I go back and reread the thread, I'll probably see shit that makes me rethink my stance but this wasn't Game of Thrones, I'll probably rewatch all five seasons and skip Gen Vee one day. And I doubt I'll watch any of the spin offs.

Gentleman, I await your disagrees, dislikes, and dumb ratings.
 
"Nothing special" is a big part of why there was such backlash, though. The constant teasing of Homelander losing it, the Scorched Earth advertising, imagery of him floating above decimated cities...

Turns out all that budget they saved was just for the sake of being cheap, rather than actually leading up to anything. Lot more people would have tolerated a mediocre season if there was a pay-off, but it was just self-congratulating wankery that lead to a dull finish. It made a clash of super heroes *boring*.

On the bright side, it seems to have absolutely shattered Redditors' tolerance of all the other poor writing. In the aftermath of the final episode I saw a complete disintegration of the "you're just made it's mocking you" cope, and a ton of the messaging hypocrisy being questioned. There were even a couple of dangerous thinkers getting very close to asking why a show lampooning the rich and powerful never once dared mention their devotion to Israel...
 
The fucking MK1 crossover treated Homelander with more respect. Not only does he die in creative ways with all the character fatalities:


.......but he also gets the ending many people envisioned in his arcade mode:

Note how the ending screen has a bunch of US fighter aircraft approaching Vought tower, which is kind of like how the comic ended where Homelander's superhero revolution was put down by jet fighters. In here, before the world merges with that of Mortal Kombat, Homelander lasers the jets and shows that he wouldn't fall as easily as his comic counterpart did.

And in the many ways Homelander can die in MK1, none of them take away his dignity. He doesn't offer to suck off his foe, or eat shit in front of a camera. He goes down fighting before the other guy desecrates his corpse, and even then, it had more dignity and creativity in the process of killing John.

When a throwaway crossover treats your main villain with more respect than the actual show, you need to rewrite the show's scripts.

Pumpkin Girl IRL said:
"Nothing special" is a big part of why there was such backlash, though. The constant teasing of Homelander losing it, the Scorched Earth advertising, imagery of him floating above decimated cities...

Turns out all that budget they saved was just for the sake of being cheap, rather than actually leading up to anything. Lot more people would have tolerated a mediocre season if there was a pay-off, but it was just self-congratulating wankery that lead to a dull finish. It made a clash of super heroes *boring*.
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The irony is that even the Game of Thrones ending, as bereft as it was of thought, was still better because of the spectacle. You had massive battles between the good guys and the zombies/Lannisters. You had people dying in droves. An entire city on fire. What Dany Targaryen did to King's Landing is what people were expecting Homelander to do to Washington DC or NYC. Both GoT and The Boys had badly-written endings, but at least GoT has the spectacle you'd expect for the finale of an 8-season show.

"Scorched Earth" became "Scorched Carpet". Which is funny considering that the V1 was originally shown to have powered Homelander up. Where was that omega-laser beam that he fired off when he took the V1? He could've reduced the heroes to ashes with a stare. Granted, it'd blow up the White House, but at least it'd add to the spectacle of a finale from a show about super-powered beings as the main threat.

Pumpkin Girl IRL said:
On the bright side, it seems to have absolutely shattered Redditors' tolerance of all the other poor writing. In the aftermath of the final episode I saw a complete disintegration of the "you're just made it's mocking you" cope, and a ton of the messaging hypocrisy being questioned. There were even a couple of dangerous thinkers getting very close to asking why a show lampooning the rich and powerful never once dared mention their devotion to Israel...
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There's still people saying shit like that. The only difference is there's less of them, because the ending offended even the politically-neutral and even some on the Left for being underwhelming. Not to mention the fact that the real villain being Vought continues to sting because they got away scot-free. Their experiment kills the president and tries to play God, and they don't get sued, their assets don't get nationalized, and they even get the same CEO back in charge. So a lot of the anti-corporate Left is not happy with the ending, even if it supposedly sticks a finger on Trump's face.

Arthur Morgan said:
Also, the reveal that Soldier Boy was in love with Stormfront just came out of nowhere, considering in season 3 he barely acknowledged her and was more focused on Crimson Countess but whatever. They didn't try to undo what made people like him in season 3, though they did tone him down a little. I do find it funny that as soon as Sister Sage lost her smarts she became a complete moron. An interesting take on the average black woman you have there, Kripke.
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Soldier Boy is obviously portrayed as a toxic male, so him having more than one paramour isn't surprising. He name-dropped Liberty during the Herogasm episode, and Liberty was one of Stormfront's aliases. To the point where some fans thought that Stormfront was Homelander's mother because SB is his father. Also, they just can't stick with one route or the other with Sister Sage. They wanted to make her a villain in a past season, but now she's working against Homelander in this season. It would've been better if she stuck to the script and remained an enemy for the heroes to overcome.

Arthur Morgan said:
My main issue is the fact that the franchise is clearly going to continue afterwards, they kept a lot of open threads so the story can continue. I feel like The Deep should have gotten the redemption arc instead of Firecracker considering he's the one we've been with the entire show but he's the symbol for the manosphere so we can't have him living. Ashley redeeming herself but still getting arrested was funny, and a satisfying conclusion considering all the shit she did. Ryan going with MM instead of Hughie and Annie wasn't what I expected but at least MM got his family back.
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Nothing ever dies. Everything will become a franchise and will be padded out to sell merchandise. Ironic how The Boys criticized this aspect of superhero media in Season 1, only to become the very thing they criticized later on. The fact that Vought remained standing goes to show they have plans for future shows where the heroes fight against more Vought supes.
 
The greater a'tuin said:
We are out of shit to talk about, so here's a random tumblr user having a melty over the show's lack of cunnilingus
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If you actually read it they do make some interesting points, especially with how the show would also depict minorities as one note stereotypes quite often despite taking shots at racists and the entirety of Gen V.
 
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