The Amazing Digital Circus - Western Isekai that probably will become Hazbin Hotel killer

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I'd like to say I'm surprised that the ending sucked but was sadly not. I liked the charming premise and some of the jokes but could instantly tell this was gay slop for a chronically online LGBT audience. Think I stopped after episode five or six. Glad I didn't finish it so now I can come up with my own ending instead.

Basically the ending:
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orangecat said:
I'd like to say I'm surprised that the ending sucked but was sadly not. I liked the charming premise and some of the jokes but could instantly tell this was gay slop for a chronically online LGBT audience. Think I stopped after episode five or six. Glad I didn't finish it so now I can come up with my own ending instead.

Basically the ending:
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The gag in that Video the clip is from is the best thing because he goes from being amazed constantly at there being nothing to just standing int he room kinda dumfounded and bored going "it's nothing" for the last loop of it. Digital circus could easily have pulled off something funny like that if they wanted a "it's nothing" finale but no
 
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Considering he was all over the poster I thought he'd have more relevance to the circus itself as he seemed to know more than the rest of them (like the keys and acknowledging the camera multiple times), but instead we got a tranny's vent session about his mummy not respecting xim. Whatever was interesting about him got dropped because trannies are incapable of not shoving their trannyism in everything they make. This series meanders for more than half of its runtime and people only liked it because of the schizophrenic theories they conjured up while waiting for the next episode.
 
Life is Hell... said:
How the fuck does a guy go from this...


To this...

In the span of a couple years....
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My best guess is extra stress. If I just wanted to help with or make a show and it got picked up by the Undertale/Steven Jewniverse/Tumblr/etc. crowd I would definitely resort to either drugs or lots and lots of sugar, especially since I'm likely bound to a contract whether social or physical to not just stop developing and dealing with the team behind the shitshow.
 
"Death" in a narrative can take a lot of forms in what happens to the character, it doesn't even have to be a permanent change of body processes, it can just be someone being bedridden until the next episode. Ted being a blob forever was death. So was Winston Smith being tortured by the government. That's not why the abstraction of Jax isn't his death. Killing a character means that you're casting everything before and after that scene in a different light. There's an economy in doing this, with no exceptions. It still matters even if the character was just a comic relief or a hate sink. The death of one may be their redemption as a serious and sympathetic character, or it's a way of proving their cause of death is a serious threat without it being too tragic.

I'm explaining this because I was trying to make sense of doing this to someone who's a covert fanservice character for humiliation fetishists. Sex appeal is another way of drawing investment into a character, and the economy will demand their death is meaningful and dramatic. If that's their main feature it means their scene is monstrous or tragic because you had a quick way of drawing sympathy to the character. But even if they're totally unsympathetic villain like Aura or Roodaka it means their death has to be a cathartic payoff now that you paid attention to them.

Jax didn't get either of those. He unceremoniously became a non-character off screen. It's not tragic, horrific, or cathartic. This is not playing by the rules of killing a character. My horrible epiphany came when I ignored the rules of an actual story and paid attention to the pet play subtext and other fetishes discussed in this thread. A lot of fetishes in niche porn like TF are inflicted on ordinary people who sometimes "deserve" it, and because they're not important or powerful and the artist doesn't want a serious tragedy, they'll justify it just by making them jerks as if that's enough to justify their rape or ego death. He wasn't abstracted as punishment for being a jerk, he was a jerk as retroactive justification for having him abtracted.

TL;DR: Jax was abstracted for the fetish.
 
While i've been looking at places for reactions to the leak i've been reminded of just how much lore baiting was done with zero payoff. the number "57" shit went nowhere. the wacky watch shit went nowhere. the writing on the mirror went nowhere. was this shit just dropped OR was it always theory bait to keep people talking during the months between episodes. i'm personally leaning at a mix of both

anyway, here is a guy saying that TADC is actually BETTER than No Mouth because its more modern or some shit LMAO


Cold take(maybe someone else has said this): TADC is better than it's inspiration
Yes Patrick, that includes the warmly received 1990's PC game adaptation of IHNMAIMS(but a good amount of people think that's it's too hard since it's puzzles really require a lot of clever thinking). Why? Let me lay it down for y'all:
  • Better written characters: Sure, the short story version skimped on character development bc it's a short story and not a novel, but(and idk if this is just me) it seemed like Ted and AM were the only truly developed characters. And while the 1990's PC game expands on the source material a lot with more fleshed out characters, you can't help but get the feeling that could've been applied to a novel that would've made loads more money. TADC on the other hand, with only nine episodes manages to present deep and flawed characters in a way that doesn't feel rushed like Hazbin Hotel. Just go onto TVTropes and compare the amount tropes the players in TADC have compared to the amount of tropes AM's playthings get. Speaking of AM, let's talk about his character copy: Caine
  • More relevant in today's world: Idk if this has ever been stated, but I think TADC is meant to be a satire of today's AI and our reactions to it. Caine is emotionally naive despite having genius level intelligence, with his actions doing woefully more harm than good. Something he doesn't quite have a grasp on. Compare that to AM, who only went mad bc he hated how he was made to live, so he turned on his masters.
  • Lighter and softer: Notice how I mentioned TVTropes earlier? Well, there's a trope known as "Too bleak, stopped caring" where the setting of a work of fiction is just so hopeless or cruel that it kills any and all investment. Something that IHNMAIMS has been accused of with its very bitter bittersweet ending(at least in the original short story, whereas in the game you can fight for a better outcome). And I'm not saying TADC is without its moments of darkness, but it's just a lot more palatable compared to a rather miserable slog.
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>Better written characters
:story: this nigga CAN'T be serious.
>More relevant in today's world
?????
>Lighter and softer
Dark and heavy topics make me too sad to be invested :(((

jfc dude

the comments are gold too

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A guy with the name horrormasterguy can't handle shit thats dark and bleak. no wonder modern horror is so gay and retarded if this is a representation of the modern horror audience.

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ok i checked something in the leak and the 57 shit actually did have a payoff. if you can call this a payoff

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yeah thats it. the faggot pink triangle bar's address was the conclusion of the biggest "mystery" in the show. really seems throwaway as fuck for theory bait because how the fuck does this make any sense. caine would not have known this shit until after everything went to shit and he magically got access to the internet so it being incorporated into the world makes zero sense.
 
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Cnidarian said:
Jax didn't get either of those. He unceremoniously became a non-character off screen. It's not tragic, horrific, or cathartic. This is not playing by the rules of killing a character. My horrible epiphany came when I ignored the rules of an actual story and paid attention to the pet play subtext and other fetishes discussed in this thread. A lot of fetishes in niche porn like TF are inflicted on ordinary people who sometimes "deserve" it, and because they're not important or powerful and the artist doesn't want a serious tragedy, they'll justify it just by making them jerks as if that's enough to justify their rape or ego death. He wasn't abstracted as punishment for being a jerk, he was a jerk as retroactive justification for having him abtracted.

TL;DR: Jax was abstracted for the fetish.
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I hate how utterly plausible this is. A good rule of thumb for understanding 21st century male behaviour is "If they're doing something that seems completely inexplicable, they're most likely getting off to it". It's never led me astray so far.

Given everything we know about Gooseworx as a person: Would you put it past them to do this?
 
Bruno Powroznik said:
jfc dude
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Tadc is ihnmaims but everyone lives EXCEPT ted but thats ok bc AM was actually a really chill guy all along that just needed some guidance and fuck ted anyways he bullied his 2 besties to death

Also zooble having sex in the credits is diabolical when shes supposed to be the benny of the story (who certainly has a relationship with sex)
 
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Bruno Powroznik said:
yeah thats it. the faggot pink triangle bar's address was the conclusion of the biggest "mystery" in the show. really seems throwaway as fuck for theory bait because how the fuck does this make any sense. caine would not have known this shit until after everything went to shit and he magically got access to the internet so it being incorporated into the world makes zero sense.
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It's just as insane as Gangles human self drawing the exact same pose from the McDonald's episode in her shitty animu comic
 
It's Cold Outside said:
Don't know about that one, chief. FNAF and Undertale during their peaks were incredibly gay. They had the exact same audience as Digital Circus. Personally I would say Undertale was the worst, but I think it's a matter of opinion because they've all been awful.

Vivziepop is her own beast. She was actively trying to cultivate an audience of degenerate gooner faggots. And I haven't got a fucking clue as to what mad science happened that created bronies. I've never heard a reasonable explanation put forward to explain that phenomenon besides "they're furries in denial". The show CANNOT be that good.
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Bronies were a perfect storm of insanity: You got depressed teenagers and grown men that need something to look forward too because the wars and the economy at the time had everyone down, you got the cute horse designs, as I recall this was during an unbelievable drought in watchable TV shows (or at least cartoons), and you got Lauren Faust who was attached to shows people loved back in the day like Foster's Home and Powerpuff Girls. Also you need to factor in that MLP is the closest thing to a standard "cute girls doing cute things" Moe Anime that we've ever had in the west, and a lot of people apparently didn't realize that those exist (the fact that MLP failed in Japan is proof of that. They already have that niche locked down)

All this together is why the brony fandom exploded. The porn and the suprisingly diverse amount of OC came later and kept the machine going. That can never happen again. It was too unique.
 
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Also you need to factor in that MLP is the closest thing to a standard "cute girls doing cute things" Moe Anime that we've ever had in the west
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I wonder if it was for better or worse that the characters are horses and not human children. On one hand, more people probably grew out of their attraction to horses compared to moefags, but the ones that didnt....

Also im sure the somewhat unique but super easy to replicate artstyle helped tons
 
Imagine if Zooble goes back to C&A and sees her AI puppet version in a sexual relationship with the resurrected digital corpse of a woman that was hit by a truck.

Very validating and wholesome chungus I'm sure.
 
Gay Sex Enjoyer said:
Imagine if Zooble goes back to C&A and sees her AI puppet version in a sexual relationship with the resurrected digital corpse of a woman that was hit by a truck.

Very validating and wholesome chungus I'm sure.
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That'd be fucking hilarious if not for the fact the stock image people next to each other at the end were already implied to be the "real" versions of them.

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the wacky watch shit went nowhere
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The wacky watch was literally just a fake product placement gag they literally cannot go anywhere with it outside making the product real.
 
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Beautiful Border said:
Wanted to expand on what I mean by these indie animation shows feeling like bad fanfictions of themselves:

Hazbin Hotel - Premise: A hotel that attempts to reform evil people to be good. What you would expect from the premise: Each episode is about a new guest and the main characters struggling to manage them, let alone reform them. Actual content: A grand arch-narrative about a battle between heaven and hell, with lots of musical numbers and attempts at emotional pathos that fall flat because they feel rushed and unearned.

Helluva Boss - Premise: A group of ambitious but incompetent would-be-hitmen who murder living people on behalf of the dead who want revenge. What you would expect from the premise: Each episode is about a new attempted murder plot that goes hilariously awry, as the intended victims outsmart the main characters. Actual content: A gay romance between the main character and a giant owl demon cheating on his wife.

TADC - Premise: A group of people are trapped in a virtual cartoon world and must occupy their minds with inconsequential adventures to avoid going insane. What you would expect from the premise: Each episode is about a silly scenario where the characters deal with a new monster of the week. Actual content: An extended therapy session where one character is evidently being used as a self-insert for the writer's own issues and character interactions full of "will-they-won't-they" without having already been given a reason to care.

Final takeaway: Indie animators are naturally self-indulgent creatures, and they need an actual studio to reign them in and do something other than use the property as a way to hawk plushies and t-shirts.
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It's simple: it turns out fanfiction and RP are poor teachers for writing. So these people get all these resources but they still write like 14 year olds writing about their Naruto OC who was taught ninjutsu by Sans from Undertale.

And that's not even getting into how all these retards desperately want to have these gay ships but can't write romance at all.
 
Spark the Electric Jester said:
No, that's them, like, confirmed. You can tell who's who.

Da gang's all here.
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I know it's meant to be them but given each character's personality I cannot for the life of me envision kinger as dollar general neil ciceriga/scott the woz or jax as well... yeah that at the end.

Also the trope of turning the ginger brown with ragatha is something. REALLY wanna be hollywood!
 
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