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The 4 Weirdest Ammunition Types Ever Used
Opinion by Blake Stilwell

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Humans have a long history of being creative with their weapons. Necessity is the mother of invention, and there’s no necessity greater than not dying because you can’t shoot back. As a result, humans have come up with more than their share of surprising weapon systems and ammunition – with varying degrees of success.
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Tround

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The Tround.



The tround, short for triangular round, was designed by David Dardick in the mid-1950s for use in his open-chamber line of weapons. It may sound strange, but the open cylinder allowed rounds to be fed into the weapon via the side as opposed to the front or rear. But the real draw was that triangular rounds would allow a weapon’s user to carry fifty percent more ammunition in a case.

Trounds also allowed for different cartridges to be used in place of the tround ammo, where the triangular casings were used as chamber adapters.
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Rocket-Propelled Ammunition

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Rocket propelled ammo shown in this Sean Connery film still.



The gyrojet weapon was developed by an engineer who worked at Los Alamos who was trying to scale down the bazooka concept to create an antitank weapon that was also compact. The gyrojet was a rocket launcher shaped like a gun firing ammunition that actually accelerated as it got further from the weapon.

It had no recoil, could be fired underwater, and could penetrate armor at 100 yards. The only problem was that its accuracy was so terrible that hitting anything at 100 yards was problematic.
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Puckle Rounds

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The Puckle Gun.



The Puckle Gun was an early development in the history of automatic weapons. It was a single-barreled flintlock weapon that was designed to keep boarders from getting onto another ship. The weapon was never actually used in combat, but it featured two rounds of ammunition; circular rounds for fighting Christians and square bullets for shooting Muslims, because square bullets apparently cause more damage. According to the patent, its purpose was to “convince the Turks of the benefits of Christian civilization.”
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Lazy Dog Missiles

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Lazy dog ammunition.



What you see is what you get with the lazy dog ammo. There’s no cartridge, no propellant, no explosive – just a solid piece of metal attached to fins. They were dropped from high altitudes en masse and by the time they reached the ground were able to penetrate light armor.




Puckle Guns are such criminally forgotten guns, both in context of historical achievement and the overall based intentions of the ammunition.

I also kinda wish they'd worked out the feeding issues with trounds and whatnot, because the concept of funny geometric-shaped bullets fascinates me.
 
I still don't understand how caseless ammunition works. Kraut Space Magic is fugly anyway, so I'm glad it never caught on.

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Basically the main problem with caseless ammo is that the propellant makes up what would normally be a metal casing. Unlike the brass or steel that normally makes up the casing, the propellant in caseless ammo is typically made up of a powder and adhesive combination that allows the powder to hold its shape, and that propellant powder would chip, crack, and break during the harsh conditions of field/combat environments. The G11 was actually adopted by the West German military to replace the G3 rifle, but that was quickly reversed due to the reunification with East Germany. Until we can create propellants for caseless ammo that can compete with metal or polymer cases in harsh combat conditions, caseless ammo will remain a dead technology.

25mm grenades but a neat concept. The Swedes made something like that for their 40mm Bofors gun, you could program the rounds for a variety of uses.

There are also some 40mm grenades that have a programmable airburst feature that can be used in certain 40mm grenade launchers, like the Mk47 Striker.
 
I own a rifle that fires caseless ammo. It's called a VL and it was made by Daisy Airguns back in the late 60's. It's a single shot .22 that fires a bullet with a small cylinder of solid propellant molded to the base. It has the distinction of being the very first production gun to fire caseless ammo.

It operates much like a modern spring piston air rifle, and uses an ignition principle that's somewhat like a Diesel engine. It has a stout spring that drives a piston in a cylinder with enough force to super-heat the air, and that air blows through a small port onto the propellant, igniting it. Ballistics and report are pretty much the same as a conventional .22lr. The manual states that the air is heated to 2000 F. Whatever the actual temp, it ignites the propellant every time.

It's accurate and very reliable. The gun and ammo are long since out of production. The rifle I bought came with a bunch of ammo, and I've since found more from a local collector. I've gathered enough ammo to justify taking it out to shoot from time to time.

It's a nice little gun and works surprisingly well-

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The ammo came in tubes to protect the propellant-

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The propellant has the consistency of a pencil eraser-

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To load it, you pull down the under-lever which cocks the piston and opens the breech-

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Load a round into the chamber, close the lever which also closes the breech, and it's ready to fire-

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Did we ever deploy the tungsten rods of doom into space? Or nukes?
 
Did we ever deploy the tungsten rods of doom into space? Or nukes?
Nukes in space are prohibited by international treaty (for whatever it's worth) and would offer no real advantage over ground-based ICBMs at this point anyway.

The "rods from God" was a "solution" to this non-problem, since they are not nuclear. But, for the same reason satellite-launched nukes are impractical, so are kinetic impactors.

So it too never got out of hypothetical planning as, again, conventional weapons do the job better.

And the time between launch from orbit and impact on target (about 10 - 15 minutes) means any orbital weapons are useless against anything that can move and are really only effective at destroying large static emplacements like cities and supply stockpiles, which you can already mess up with a tactical nuke you probably already have if you've got the money and expertise to be considering telephone-pole sized pieces of tungsten in orbit.... let alone some cheap Tomahawks or whatever your local equivalent is.

The days of needing to flatten cities to have the same effect as a dozen counter-value strikes of smaller payload are pretty much over, you don't need to nuke LA to disable it's logistical effectiveness when you can drone strike the docks, power lines, a few freeway bottlenecks and railyards and you'll have rendered it a gridlocked mess that will take weeks to get moving again, at a fraction of the cost and a lot less political baggage than the prospect of nukes.
 
>no mention of turk-slaying square bullets or dragon breath rounds
Lame

Dragons Breath rounds are a gimmick. Sure, they'll set shit on fire, but they aren't a fight stopper since it takes a lot longer to burn someone to death than it does to just shoot them with a bullet or buckshot. It's like trying to end a gun fight with fireworks. They're a novelty, regardless of what video games say. They are even less effective than a flamethrower.
 
Dragons Breath rounds are a gimmick. Sure, they'll set shit on fire, but they aren't a fight stopper since it takes a lot longer to burn someone to death than it does to just shoot them with a bullet or buckshot. It's like trying to end a gun fight with fireworks. They're a novelty, regardless of what video games say. They are even less effective than a flamethrower.
This is an article about the weirdest types of ammunition. Not the most effective. Go sperg-out elsewhere
 
Dragons Breath rounds are a gimmick. Sure, they'll set shit on fire, but they aren't a fight stopper since it takes a lot longer to burn someone to death than it does to just shoot them with a bullet or buckshot. It's like trying to end a gun fight with fireworks. They're a novelty, regardless of what video games say. They are even less effective than a flamethrower.
Look man, you build a man a fire, and he's warm for a day. You set a man on fire with FLAMING BUCKSHOT, and he's warm for the rest of his life.
 
This is an article about the weirdest types of ammunition. Not the most effective. Go sperg-out elsewhere
Ineffectiveness is part of what makes it weird, "this doesn't work but we tried it anyway"... no harm in pointing it out.
 
@Wahgonga Iirc Daisy had to discontinued using that caseless propellant cause the ATF got all over their ass for it.

Aside from from your example, powder manufacturer Hodgson and another company I can't recall, have been the other "successful" manufacturer of caseless propellant. Although it is just a black powder substitute for the muzzleloader hunter and seriously vintage cowboy action markets. 441251.jpg
 
@Wahgonga Iirc Daisy had to discontinued using that caseless propellant cause the ATF got all over their ass for it.

Aside from from your example, powder manufacturer Hodgson and another company I can't recall, have been the other "successful" manufacturer of caseless propellant. Although it is just a black powder substitute for the muzzleloader hunter and seriously vintage cowboy action markets.View attachment 3610981

Yeah, the ATF classed the VL rifle as a firearm, and Daisy didn't want to deal with the hassle of becoming a firearm manufacturer. They only made them for 2 years, producing around 23,000 of them. The VL is now on the ATF Curio & Relic list.

Those Hodgdon powder pellets are really slick. I own a couple 45-70 Trapdoor Springfields. The trapdoor action can't withstand the pressures of modern smokeless 45-70 rounds, so you have to load your own with black powder, Pyrodex, or pellets. The pre-formed pellets are really convenient as they are pre-measured and non-corrosive. Perfect for my home-brewed 45-70 reloads.
 
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This is an article about the weirdest types of ammunition. Not the most effective. Go sperg-out elsewhere

LOL you can't even really consider it ammunition. It's a glorified sparkler. It isn't even really weird since it's just replacing the shot or slug in the shotshell with powdered magnesium and titanium. It's still the same form factor of a shotshell hull. How is that "weird" exactly?

Look, I'm sorry you're wrong and un-knowledgeable about firearms and ammunition, and I understand you being salty about it. But there's no reason for you to take it out on me just because I know what I'm talking about. That's a "you" problem, not a "me" problem.
 
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