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The 4 Weirdest Ammunition Types Ever Used
Opinion by Blake Stilwell

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Humans have a long history of being creative with their weapons. Necessity is the mother of invention, and there’s no necessity greater than not dying because you can’t shoot back. As a result, humans have come up with more than their share of surprising weapon systems and ammunition – with varying degrees of success.
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Tround

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The Tround.



The tround, short for triangular round, was designed by David Dardick in the mid-1950s for use in his open-chamber line of weapons. It may sound strange, but the open cylinder allowed rounds to be fed into the weapon via the side as opposed to the front or rear. But the real draw was that triangular rounds would allow a weapon’s user to carry fifty percent more ammunition in a case.

Trounds also allowed for different cartridges to be used in place of the tround ammo, where the triangular casings were used as chamber adapters.
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Rocket-Propelled Ammunition

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Rocket propelled ammo shown in this Sean Connery film still.



The gyrojet weapon was developed by an engineer who worked at Los Alamos who was trying to scale down the bazooka concept to create an antitank weapon that was also compact. The gyrojet was a rocket launcher shaped like a gun firing ammunition that actually accelerated as it got further from the weapon.

It had no recoil, could be fired underwater, and could penetrate armor at 100 yards. The only problem was that its accuracy was so terrible that hitting anything at 100 yards was problematic.
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Puckle Rounds

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The Puckle Gun.



The Puckle Gun was an early development in the history of automatic weapons. It was a single-barreled flintlock weapon that was designed to keep boarders from getting onto another ship. The weapon was never actually used in combat, but it featured two rounds of ammunition; circular rounds for fighting Christians and square bullets for shooting Muslims, because square bullets apparently cause more damage. According to the patent, its purpose was to “convince the Turks of the benefits of Christian civilization.”
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Lazy Dog Missiles

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Lazy dog ammunition.



What you see is what you get with the lazy dog ammo. There’s no cartridge, no propellant, no explosive – just a solid piece of metal attached to fins. They were dropped from high altitudes en masse and by the time they reached the ground were able to penetrate light armor.




Puckle Guns are such criminally forgotten guns, both in context of historical achievement and the overall based intentions of the ammunition.

I also kinda wish they'd worked out the feeding issues with trounds and whatnot, because the concept of funny geometric-shaped bullets fascinates me.
 
It doesn't, hence every attempt died on their arse.


HESH is the shit. While it might not be enough to take out modern MBT's, the versatility for fucking everything else up is incredible. Kinda sad that the next Challenger upgrade will finally be removing the rifled gun, and thus the ability to use HESH.
It works in the most technical sense that a bullet comes out. they haven't figured out a way to make the bullet go as fast as normal ammo. The big stumbling block is that regular people won't buy it because you can't handload the shit at home.
 
Disappointed the rocket ball didn't make the list, caseless ammo is goofy as hell.
 
It works in the most technical sense that a bullet comes out. they haven't figured out a way to make the bullet go as fast as normal ammo. The big stumbling block is that regular people won't buy it because you can't handload the shit at home.
Among other engineering issues. Better explosive compounds help a bit with the heat dissipation issue in so far as "gun no cook off" but mechanical accuracy still suffers under high and uneven heat strain. The fact no round is perfect and therefore you need an ejection system for dud rounds anyway sort of negates any mechanical advantages that could have been offered from not having any byproduct to eject.

Caseless was supposed to be cheaper and lighter, but even if manufactured at scale, the complexity of the compounds and assembly has all but nipped that in the butt, its a marginal difference at best now. Last I checked it does still have a weight advantage, at least until Polymer Case ammo figures out its own thermal issues.

With arms technology starting to shift towards heavier rounds again and away from light zippers, Caseless will see its issues be amplified, not mitigated. Bigger rounds and higher pressures go against what little advantage it does have.

Disappointed the rocket ball didn't make the list, caseless ammo is goofy as hell.
It did, though. Gyrojet ammo was more or less the evolution of "Put the propellant in the bullet and just keep burning it". Rocket balls from the old repeaters are the ancestors of them much the same way that paper cartridges for needle rifles started towards the modern centerfire as we know it.
 
It did, though. Gyrojet ammo was more or less the evolution of "Put the propellant in the bullet and just keep burning it". Rocket balls from the old repeaters are the ancestors of them much the same way that paper cartridges for needle rifles started towards the modern centerfire as we know it.
Gyrojet may be an evolution on a similar idea (and they may have both had abysmal muzzle velocity) but the details and workings behind the two systems are quite different.

Gyrojet is an actual rocket. When fired, a hammer strikes the nose of the rocket and drives it onto a fixed firing pin, starting a combustion reaction inside the round. The round has precisely drilled nozzle holes in the back through which gases from combustion escape to drive it up the barrel, which has holes running up its length to let those gases escape.

Rocket ball still works like a regular contemporary bullet. Explosion behind projectile sends it up an otherwise sealed barrel. In the rocket ball's case the explosion happens partially inside the projectile, but that doesn't make much difference here because the propulsion of the bullet comes from the pressure differential on either side of it. The rocket ball has no sort of nozzle or bell to direct outgoing gases, so even if some propellant comes along for the ride it's not going to accomplish much if it wasn't part of the initial explosion.
 
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What about nuclear arty that was not practical was It?
Well, not practical in the sense that "Unless you have a pre-dug trench to immediately hop into after you pull the lanyard, the blast from this will kill you too." even the tiniest yield warhead you could pack into an artillery shell was simply too big to not envelop the gun and it's users even at maximum range.

It was only ever deployed (IIRC) to Western Europe in the kind of place where they expected massed Soviet armor would try to breakthrough in any "Fuck the West" land invasion and was only ever to be a last-ditch holdout weapon to blunt any armored advance by irradiating the entire column of oncoming T-64s and forcing them to operate in slower buttoned-up mode or take a breather to shovel out the dead tankers and replace them with fresh ones. That was the only conceivable scenario in which you'd want to use, essentially, a nuclear hand-grenade.
 
Puckle rounds are beyond based. I also love any call back to the TRUE PIRATES of the Mediterranean that history has conveniently "forgot" were the principle slave drivers of blacks AND WHITES during the "African" slave trade.
The Knighta of St John of Jerusalem, called of Rhodes, called of Malta were effective counter pirates and the noble knights were vowed monks.
 
While hardly unusual or weird, I've always been fascinated by kinetic-impact anti-tank rounds. The ones that are essentially a large dart of super-hard metal (usually tungsten) with a discarding sabot around it just to get the full "oomph" from the charge when fired? That destroy tanks from just the raw energy of the dart when it decelerates on the target tank's hull, causing what's practically a supersonic car crash?

The idea that you don't need explosives when you can just use raw physics.... at sufficient muzzle velocity, ANY matter will behave LIKE explosive when it hits if going fast enough and STOPS?

That's awesome.

Back on the Davy Crocket - The late 50's to early 60's saw a LOT of otherwise conventional munitions given nuclear payloads, as before the ICBM reached maturity, there was a lot of strategy and doctrine expended on how to take out an incoming wave of enemy bombers or surface ships before they could get to firing range with their own nuclear missiles.... just off the top of my head they had developed and deployed:

Nuclear air-to-air missiles (AIR-2 Genie w/ 1.5kt yield, anything higher and the launching aircraft wouldn't be able to pull a rapid 180 and escape it's own blast)
Nuclear surface-to-air missiles (MIM-3 Nike-Ajax, w/3 to 30kt yield depending on variant)
Nuclear depth charges (Mk. 90 "Betty" w/34kt yield)

And so on.

They even had plans for nuclear landmines (for the same purpose as the DC, area-denial in case of massed land invasion of Europe) that would be buried ahead of approaching forces and to keep the electronics and such in them from freezing, it was planned they'd have a small flock of live chickens and a small amount of feed and water inside the device to keep it heated by their own body warmth for up to a week... I'm NOT making that up.
 
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I remember watching a video about strange types of ammo, and there was one in specific (i don't remember the name) that once fired inside the body it expanded rapidly with sharp fragments to cause hemorrhages, i thought it was cool.
 
While hardly unusual or weird, I've always been fascinated by kinetic-impact anti-tank rounds. The ones that are essentially a large dart of super-hard metal (usually tungsten) with a discarding sabot around it just to get the full "oomph" from the charge when fired? That destroy tanks from just the raw energy of the dart when it decelerates on the target tank's hull, causing what's practically a supersonic car crash?
You may find the following offering on Ebay as interesting as I did:
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This is "sticker price" for blanks to make new tooling. Shops the world over will sell their old tooling for less than half the price. If true armor-prenetration is the name of the game we're getting stamps to accomodate 1" diameter discards. Believe it or not scaling up a conventional steel rifle poses a smaller technical challenge than reshaping the slugs. It's certainly possible, but like "Doubling cost per round to $50+ for how many diamond wheels we're eating up" expensive.

While there are somewhat sophisticated (read:expensive) ways to jacket it in some other metal like copper or brass to prevent barrel wear, if you can tolerate some cancer-fumes the world of polymer sabots is a lot less strenuous on the budget. We'll need some kind of nose cone for aerodynamics and we can functionally ignore how much it will diminish penetration.
 
one time at a gun show I saw a guy selling packs of flechette rounds that had like a Coke font of "IT'S LIKE NAILS FROM YOUR SHOTGUN!" on the packaging
 
one time at a gun show I saw a guy selling packs of flechette rounds that had like a Coke font of "IT'S LIKE NAILS FROM YOUR SHOTGUN!" on the packaging
Which reminds me of the time Demolition Ranch experimented with home-made shotgun shells..... loaded with razor blades.
 
Cool idea but invokes a "really, dude?" reaction.
Coincidentally, that would also be an understandable reaction if one were to be shot by said tiny triangle. Taken out by a tiny hazard triangle.

If only they figured out a way to make the bullets puzzle piece-shaped, for those times when weaponizing autism turns lethal.
(For Minecraft playthroughs only, ofc (when it comes to glowies I ain't taken no chances.))
 
one time at a gun show I saw a guy selling packs of flechette rounds that had like a Coke font of "IT'S LIKE NAILS FROM YOUR SHOTGUN!" on the packaging
I would buy a pack solely for the novelty of that packaging alone. Gives me old Quake nailgun vibes.
 
Well, not practical in the sense that "Unless you have a pre-dug trench to immediately hop into after you pull the lanyard, the blast from this will kill you too." even the tiniest yield warhead you could pack into an artillery shell was simply too big to not envelop the gun and it's users even at maximum range.

It was only ever deployed (IIRC) to Western Europe in the kind of place where they expected massed Soviet armor would try to breakthrough in any "Fuck the West" land invasion and was only ever to be a last-ditch holdout weapon to blunt any armored advance by irradiating the entire column of oncoming T-64s and forcing them to operate in slower buttoned-up mode or take a breather to shovel out the dead tankers and replace them with fresh ones. That was the only conceivable scenario in which you'd want to use, essentially, a nuclear hand-grenade.
I don't know about you but 20 metric tons of TNT going off at once isn't exactly an M80. That's as much boom as a bombing run from a fully-loaded B-52.
Which reminds me of the time Demolition Ranch experimented with home-made shotgun shells..... loaded with razor blades.
Don't fuck with Silly Putty.
The Davy Crockett was its name.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M65_atomic_cannon
There was also an actual artillery cannon built and tested. And then we realized we could just shrink atomic warheads down enough to fit in a 155mm shell instead of needing a big-ass 11" piece. I don't know about you but a single 6-inch shell with 72 tons worth of TNT in it isn't child's play either.
Nuclear air-to-air missiles (AIR-2 Genie w/ 1.5kt yield, anything higher and the launching aircraft wouldn't be able to pull a rapid 180 and escape it's own blast)
Nuclear surface-to-air missiles (MIM-3 Nike-Ajax, w/3 to 30kt yield depending on variant)
Nuclear depth charges (Mk. 90 "Betty" w/34kt yield)
You forgot the 1,600 pound Little Boy a single-engine jet could carry.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_7_nuclear_bomb

The BOAR project that stuck the W7 warhead of that bomb on a 30.5-inch diameter rocket let the fucking Skyraider of all planes safely carry and launch nuclear ordnance.
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We could have nuked the Russians with a fucking prop plane if we really wanted to humiliate and embarrass them.

There's a reason I maintain, and backed by plenty of evidence, that the Fallout games understated our love of nuclear ordnance. You bet your ass we'd be issuing something like the Fat Man to our troops if we could get it working.
 
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