Team Four Star - Creators of a bunch of stuff to make people laugh trying to figure out what to do after a decade of comedically retelling Dragon Ball Z.

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Speaking of Chi-Chi, for the longest time I used to dismiss her as a psychotic bitch and basically the anime version of Howard's mom from The Big Bang Theory. But come to think of it, Chi-Chi is basically in the same boat as Goku. While Goku grew up as a boy without parents, Chi-Chi grew up as a girl without a mother. I don't know if it was PlagueOfGripes or some other Dragon Ball SpergTuber who said it, but they speculated that Chi-Chi's behaviour is based on what she thinks how a mother would act, while having no frame of reference due to growing up without one.

Given that Goku was basically a boy that was raised by the wilderness, an old pervert and an alien god and Chi-Chi hails from a single parent household, I think both Goku and Chi-Chi must have done something right since Gohan became an actual scholar instead of a school shooter when taking his traumatic childhood into account.
This seems like a pretty decent take. Plus, Chichi grew up as rich pseudo-royalty and only had to start living in abject poverty after marrying Goku (or, at best, after he blew up her mountain). Combine the fact that she's not accustomed to poverty with the staggering cost of feeding Saiyans and any repair costs that come from Goku being careless, and it's no wonder she's hyper focused on money and on making sure that Gohan grows up to succeed.

That said, I would go further and say that Chichi's behavior is pretty reasonable even if we discount that she's so out of her element. Chichi is the one voice of reason in her family: "No, you cannot get in a space ship for a full half a year so you can adventure on an unknown alien planet who-knows-where to make a wish to bring back a man that tried to kill your father and kidnapped you for a year. Your father is in a full-body cast, you just came home after being kidnapped and forced to be a living weapon to fight alien invaders, and you are five years old."

The anime really blows her 'you need to be a college graduate right now!' stuff out of proportion, but if you consider she's a woman who keeps having her husband die or be maimed, and has had her child kidnapped or yanked into traumatic and deadly battles from when he was literally a toddler onward (going to Namek despite her protests got his neck broken and also got him savagely beaten multiple times. At five years old). The fact that she was really active with training Goten until he went super (and ran off to get eaten and later murdered by an ancient evil at 7) supports that, in my opinion. Her meltdown in Super where she's desperate for Pan to stay out of battle once her dream of a calm life post-buu is shattered by Beerus showing up is just the crowning moment of that. She's a woman slowly driven mad by trying to cling to sanity in an insane world.

Goku giving Cell a Senzu isn't the biggest WTF moment of the franchise, but learning that there are people who unironically like Super. :stress:
Super is good in concept. It provides new content to a long beloved series and sets out to correct many of the tropes that have been criticized about DBZ for years - excessive transformations, leaving behind everyone who isn't Goku and Vegeta (and eventually even leaving Vegeta behind), Vegeta smack-talking and one-sided feuding with Goku only to be humiliated, and power scaling that caused people who could literally overthrow an intergalactic emperor without trying to be considered useless wastes of space.

Battle of Gods refreshed the franchise better than any other concepts that popped up over the years in fandom and RoF wasn't terrible. The Zamasu arc was good, but better in the manga as a set up for Xenoverse and Heroes, the primary issue was that on a fairly short runtime it shoved in two large multiverse tournament arcs with nothing really at stake beyond the outcome of the tournament. Universe 6 + 7 tournament's stakes were "if we win, we get to use the super dragonballs, but none of us have any pre-existing wishes to make that worthwhile" and "if we lose, Earth gets translated into a different universe where there was never a Frieza and the Saiyans are a flourishing race of peacekeepers". Because 99% of all pre-Super content is earth-based, Beerus can universe hop at will, and nothing says there isn't still a Namek in 7, nothing would have been lost in switching universes and arguably it would only improve he story. All that the show would lose out on are the familar Supreme Kais, King Kai, and King Yemma. The Tournament of Power arc was obnoxiously long, and by contrast had stakes so high they were no longer believable. Universe 7 was always going to win, short of some crazy last second Universe 6 upset, and everyone expected that the erased universes would be brought back somehow due to the fact that it was way too wasteful to wipe out a dozen universes worth of content on one arc.

Any sequel/return will be better than Super simply because they've hopefully gotten the tournament arcs out of their system. From what I understand, the manga has better arcs that the anime never yet reached to.

I know Dragonball and Z always had tournament arcs, but they were either spacer arcs or had something else compelling in them that were interesting: the first tournament was a spacer between the dragonball hunt and red ribbon arcs, the last tournament arc was a warm up arc that eased into the Buu saga. The Tien and Piccolo tournaments were driven by the 'villain' of the tournament stomping on everyone and pushing Goku to his limit until he beat them. Cell Games were technically a tournament, but it basically pretended to be one for .5 seconds before Cell dropped the act and it became very obviously just the final battle arc for the Android/Cell saga. The Universe 6 arc holds itself up as its own thing, and the Tournament of Power's only "villain" was Jiren, who was about as interesting when he sat there meditating and not existing as when he actually did anything. Both in engagement in the tournament and in personality, Jiren can't compete with introduction-era Tien, Piccolo, or Cell.
 
I've said this in multiple threads, but I really wish somebody archived Lani's 2016 election result reaction video.
The day after the election, Lani posted a video on his own YouTube channel that was despair levels of TDS.
I remember watching it and thinking "For God's sake, Lani, it's not the end of the republic!"
It certainly would have earned a place in this thread.
 
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This seems like a pretty decent take. Plus, Chichi grew up as rich pseudo-royalty and only had to start living in abject poverty after marrying Goku (or, at best, after he blew up her mountain). Combine the fact that she's not accustomed to poverty with the staggering cost of feeding Saiyans and any repair costs that come from Goku being careless, and it's no wonder she's hyper focused on money and on making sure that Gohan grows up to succeed.

That said, I would go further and say that Chichi's behavior is pretty reasonable even if we discount that she's so out of her element. Chichi is the one voice of reason in her family: "No, you cannot get in a space ship for a full half a year so you can adventure on an unknown alien planet who-knows-where to make a wish to bring back a man that tried to kill your father and kidnapped you for a year. Your father is in a full-body cast, you just came home after being kidnapped and forced to be a living weapon to fight alien invaders, and you are five years old."

The anime really blows her 'you need to be a college graduate right now!' stuff out of proportion, but if you consider she's a woman who keeps having her husband die or be maimed, and has had her child kidnapped or yanked into traumatic and deadly battles from when he was literally a toddler onward (going to Namek despite her protests got his neck broken and also got him savagely beaten multiple times. At five years old). The fact that she was really active with training Goten until he went super (and ran off to get eaten and later murdered by an ancient evil at 7) supports that, in my opinion. Her meltdown in Super where she's desperate for Pan to stay out of battle once her dream of a calm life post-buu is shattered by Beerus showing up is just the crowning moment of that. She's a woman slowly driven mad by trying to cling to sanity in an insane world.


Super is good in concept. It provides new content to a long beloved series and sets out to correct many of the tropes that have been criticized about DBZ for years - excessive transformations, leaving behind everyone who isn't Goku and Vegeta (and eventually even leaving Vegeta behind), Vegeta smack-talking and one-sided feuding with Goku only to be humiliated, and power scaling that caused people who could literally overthrow an intergalactic emperor without trying to be considered useless wastes of space.

Battle of Gods refreshed the franchise better than any other concepts that popped up over the years in fandom and RoF wasn't terrible. The Zamasu arc was good, but better in the manga as a set up for Xenoverse and Heroes, the primary issue was that on a fairly short runtime it shoved in two large multiverse tournament arcs with nothing really at stake beyond the outcome of the tournament. Universe 6 + 7 tournament's stakes were "if we win, we get to use the super dragonballs, but none of us have any pre-existing wishes to make that worthwhile" and "if we lose, Earth gets translated into a different universe where there was never a Frieza and the Saiyans are a flourishing race of peacekeepers". Because 99% of all pre-Super content is earth-based, Beerus can universe hop at will, and nothing says there isn't still a Namek in 7, nothing would have been lost in switching universes and arguably it would only improve he story. All that the show would lose out on are the familar Supreme Kais, King Kai, and King Yemma. The Tournament of Power arc was obnoxiously long, and by contrast had stakes so high they were no longer believable. Universe 7 was always going to win, short of some crazy last second Universe 6 upset, and everyone expected that the erased universes would be brought back somehow due to the fact that it was way too wasteful to wipe out a dozen universes worth of content on one arc.

Any sequel/return will be better than Super simply because they've hopefully gotten the tournament arcs out of their system. From what I understand, the manga has better arcs that the anime never yet reached to.

I know Dragonball and Z always had tournament arcs, but they were either spacer arcs or had something else compelling in them that were interesting: the first tournament was a spacer between the dragonball hunt and red ribbon arcs, the last tournament arc was a warm up arc that eased into the Buu saga. The Tien and Piccolo tournaments were driven by the 'villain' of the tournament stomping on everyone and pushing Goku to his limit until he beat them. Cell Games were technically a tournament, but it basically pretended to be one for .5 seconds before Cell dropped the act and it became very obviously just the final battle arc for the Android/Cell saga. The Universe 6 arc holds itself up as its own thing, and the Tournament of Power's only "villain" was Jiren, who was about as interesting when he sat there meditating and not existing as when he actually did anything. Both in engagement in the tournament and in personality, Jiren can't compete with introduction-era Tien, Piccolo, or Cell.
I fully agree with you on Chi-Chi.

I'm not sure if Super can be considered having great concepts, at least not for the most part. I like the idea of a good old Dragon Ball tournament arc in theory and on paper, but the problem is that Super was fucked on a conceptual level. Just a reminder: In Dragon Ball Super we have - without the slightest hint of irony - Frieza being brought back, power levels of 100 quintillion, Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan (<- What the absolute fuck Toriyama?!), a rehash of the Future Trunks saga, Super Saiyan Rosé, S-Cells and so on. It would be unfair to compare Super with fanfics because the things I listed are concepts even autistic shitty fanfic writers who took Dragon Ball AF seriously would cringe at. And if that wasn't enough, Super canonised the awful Battle of the Gods movie that gave us what was Toriyama's biggest mistake, even bigger than the redundant Super Saiyan transformations we got in Z: Beerus. To me Super is to Dragon Ball what Alien: Covenant is to the original Alien movie.

As for a sequel/return, I think at this point the only correct course of action for Dragon Ball would be to follow the footsteps of the abridged series: Pull the plug and let it finally die its long overdue death.

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I've said in multiple threads, but I really wish somebody archived Lani's 2016 election result reaction video.
The day after the election, Lani posted a video on his own YouTube channel that was dispair levels of TDS.
I remember watching it and thinking "For God's sake, Lani, it's not the end of the republic!"
It certainly would have earned a place in this thread.
I wasn't aware that Lani chimped out over the election results. Now Kaiser, hardly to anyone's surprise, went nuclear.
 
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Holy shit, can you retards stop sperging about Dargon Ball? There's literally a gay furry on TFS and yall niggas over here talkin about characterization. Besides, there's already a thread for that.
 
I wasn't aware that Lani chimped out over the election results. Now Kaiser, hardly to anyone's surprise, went nuclear.

Lani looked doomerpilled.
It's a shame that he either privated, unlisted, or outright deleted it.

Taka's another one who politispergs about American politics despite being Canadian.
The fandom actually got sick of Taka's Twitter sperging to the point that Taka created a second Twitter account just to sperg about politics and not pollute his main account.
 
Lani looked doomerpilled.
It's a shame that he either privated, unlisted, or outright deleted it.

Taka's another one who politispergs about American politics despite being Canadian.
The fandom actually got sick of Taka's Twitter sperging to the point that Taka created a second Twitter account just to sperg about politics and not pollute his main account.
I don't get why Canadians keep wanting to look up American politics unless Trump or someone at the WH directly insults Canada or the Cuck we elected, or the issues directly overlap between both nations. We have our own problems, I would rather focus on that before dealing with America's trash heap of issues. Of course, I also have issue with pretty much any country trying to bitch about another country's politics, but that's neither here or there.

Super is good in concept. It provides new content to a long beloved series and sets out to correct many of the tropes that have been criticized about DBZ for years - excessive transformations, leaving behind everyone who isn't Goku and Vegeta (and eventually even leaving Vegeta behind), Vegeta smack-talking and one-sided feuding with Goku only to be humiliated, and power scaling that caused people who could literally overthrow an intergalactic emperor without trying to be considered useless wastes of space.

Battle of Gods refreshed the franchise better than any other concepts that popped up over the years in fandom and RoF wasn't terrible. The Zamasu arc was good, but better in the manga as a set up for Xenoverse and Heroes, the primary issue was that on a fairly short runtime it shoved in two large multiverse tournament arcs with nothing really at stake beyond the outcome of the tournament. Universe 6 + 7 tournament's stakes were "if we win, we get to use the super dragonballs, but none of us have any pre-existing wishes to make that worthwhile" and "if we lose, Earth gets translated into a different universe where there was never a Frieza and the Saiyans are a flourishing race of peacekeepers". Because 99% of all pre-Super content is earth-based, Beerus can universe hop at will, and nothing says there isn't still a Namek in 7, nothing would have been lost in switching universes and arguably it would only improve he story. All that the show would lose out on are the familar Supreme Kais, King Kai, and King Yemma. The Tournament of Power arc was obnoxiously long, and by contrast had stakes so high they were no longer believable. Universe 7 was always going to win, short of some crazy last second Universe 6 upset, and everyone expected that the erased universes would be brought back somehow due to the fact that it was way too wasteful to wipe out a dozen universes worth of content on one arc.

Any sequel/return will be better than Super simply because they've hopefully gotten the tournament arcs out of their system. From what I understand, the manga has better arcs that the anime never yet reached to.

I know Dragonball and Z always had tournament arcs, but they were either spacer arcs or had something else compelling in them that were interesting: the first tournament was a spacer between the dragonball hunt and red ribbon arcs, the last tournament arc was a warm up arc that eased into the Buu saga. The Tien and Piccolo tournaments were driven by the 'villain' of the tournament stomping on everyone and pushing Goku to his limit until he beat them. Cell Games were technically a tournament, but it basically pretended to be one for .5 seconds before Cell dropped the act and it became very obviously just the final battle arc for the Android/Cell saga. The Universe 6 arc holds itself up as its own thing, and the Tournament of Power's only "villain" was Jiren, who was about as interesting when he sat there meditating and not existing as when he actually did anything. Both in engagement in the tournament and in personality, Jiren can't compete with introduction-era Tien, Piccolo, or Cell.
At the time, it felt more like "decent ideas, marred by piss poor production schedules that didn't even try to get straightened out until episode 70." Now it's more "The animation was the least of the show's issues" with hindsight. A lot of ideas were marred with pacing issues (like 26 episodes alone to remaking the two movies with sub-TV quality animation when they really didn't need to be remade), two tournament arcs that dragged and had literally zero long-term stakes, and villains so overpowered you have to wonder what kind of hallucinogens Toriyama and the staff at Toei were on when deciding "let's make it so that one of the villains has to be defeated by the maker of all reality itself!" when coming up with the Zamasu arc. Any of the good ideas the show ultimately had were either incredibly fleeting (Top's universe, and the other universes in general) or added in by the dub (having Vegeta;s clone be voice by the Canadian dub actor).
 
Super is good in concept. It provides new content to a long beloved series and sets out to correct many of the tropes that have been criticized about DBZ for years - excessive transformations, leaving behind everyone who isn't Goku and Vegeta (and eventually even leaving Vegeta behind), Vegeta smack-talking and one-sided feuding with Goku only to be humiliated, and power scaling that caused people who could literally overthrow an intergalactic emperor without trying to be considered useless wastes of space.
Funny, I thought a complaint was that Super doubled down on some of those aspects. If anything, there's material for an abridging.
power levels of 100 quintillion
I thought at that point everyone knew power levels were a joke. Hell, the only reason they were introduced were to show they were unreliable and meaningless and served to give villains a false sense of security when they went up against Goku and saw he had a low power level. If anything, the reason the go so high they're immeasurable is because at some point, people stopped giving a shit about them.
Super canonised the awful Battle of the Gods movie that gave us what was Toriyama's biggest mistake, even bigger than the redundant Super Saiyan transformations we got in Z: Beerus
How is Beerus, the God of Destruction, the biggest mistake of Akira Toriyama?
 
I wasn't aware that Lani chimped out over the election results. Now Kaiser, hardly to anyone's surprise, went nuclear.
One thing I remember about Kaiser was that even he wasn't too happy with Hillary and acknowledged that she was actively dissuading non-Democrats from voting for her. Granted he also added that stupid "But Trump would be way worse!" mindset, but it was interesting seeing someone who realized that their candidate was flat-out unlikable to those outside the party.

Of course, the actual election collectively broke everyone's brains so I'm not surprised he went crazy over the results.
 
I'll admit it's been a while since I watched the OG Broly movie (way over a decade and a half), but I could have sworn Broly having PTSD over Goku's crying was an actual plot point, not in the sense that it triggered Broly's transformation but that it kickstarted the plot. Broly getting his powers activated by being stabbed as an infant and Pargus raising him Danny the Dog style to ultimately get back at Vegeta, that I understand.
That's also a part of the whole shitting on Broly schtick, because in the first movie, the one people like Broly for, he doesn't really care about Goku. Goku just triggers his transformation. He says something like Goku got lucky because he's his first kill after he transforms and that's it. Now the 2 sequel Z movies are the ones where he says nothing but 'Kakarot'. Coincidentally they're both terrible with or without Broly.

The whole baby thing is an old meme shitpost that people who were salty at Broly being popular repeated so many times they started believing it. As in religiously, to the point where you can show the scene where he gets stabbed as a baby and his power awakens subconciously, and they'll still say that he wants to get revenge for crying as a baby and that that was the reason he transformed. Case in point TFS' abridging of the movie. It's the most retardedly basic thing too, Goku = memory of power awakening = power awakens again.
It's also practically basic in that Broly is essentially made to be a movie villain and hits all of the martial arts villain notes on key. Broly has all of the elements of this: an emphasis on genetics and purely physical attributes as basis for his power (ie supremacist and "surivival of the fittest" rooted ideology), being a mentally unhinged psychotic bastard to where he blows up planets for fun as a child, and the depravity you get when you praise only power and prestige when it comes to martial arts and spare the rod and spoil the child. That part about the two doctors remarking on Broly's unusual nature should have hinted that not only was he essentially a genetic lottery mishap, but was also mentally exceptional since birth compared to any other normal Saiyan offspring in the nursery and should have been given special treatment instead of being touted as the new generation of Saiyankind. Overall, Broly is meant to be Goku's foil in how despite all of his power and destructive potential, he's everything that villains like Frieza would want Saiyans to be, and shows what happens when you take the heart out of Saiyankind and leave behind everything else for life to deal with.

Oh sure, Broly's power may be maximum, but enjoy your world getting blown to bits by a psycho. Do any of the spergs at TFS get this?
 
It's also practically basic in that Broly is essentially made to be a movie villain and hits all of the martial arts villain notes on key. Broly has all of the elements of this: an emphasis on genetics and purely physical attributes as basis for his power (ie supremacist and "surivival of the fittest" rooted ideology), being a mentally unhinged psychotic bastard to where he blows up planets for fun as a child, and the depravity you get when you praise only power and prestige when it comes to martial arts and spare the rod and spoil the child. That part about the two doctors remarking on Broly's unusual nature should have hinted that not only was he essentially a genetic lottery mishap, but was also mentally exceptional since birth compared to any other normal Saiyan offspring in the nursery and should have been given special treatment instead of being touted as the new generation of Saiyankind. Overall, Broly is meant to be Goku's foil in how despite all of his power and destructive potential, he's everything that villains like Frieza would want Saiyans to be, and shows what happens when you take the heart out of Saiyankind and leave behind everything else for life to deal with.

Oh sure, Broly's power may be maximum, but enjoy your world getting blown to bits by a psycho. Do any of the spergs at TFS get this?
My guess...they only give respect to the characters they either like or can't get away with making fun of, whether it's holding back on the jokes or turning the abridged series into what can be described as "a fandub with jokes" .
 
even autistic shitty fanfic writers who took Dragon Ball AF seriously
Considering your opinions on Super, it probably won't come as a surprise that includes Toei and Toriyama. The guy the franchise is being slowly handed off to, Toyotoro, got his start making a Dragonball AF manga.
 
My guess...they only give respect to the characters they either like or can't get away with making fun of, whether it's holding back on the jokes or turning the abridged series into what can be described as "a fandub with jokes" .
A bit of A-logging, I can't stand "lolz we like silly anime/woe is us for we are weebs" shithead fans like TFS because they have some severe case of cultural exceptionalism where they can't approach anything remotely anime with general human interaction without going into their dysphoric self loathing or the other end of chunnibyou sperg nutcase mentality. When you do that, there's not only no respect for yourself, but to what you enjoy, and that kind of stuff passes on and becomes evidence in anything you do in life. "Basic analysis and study of elements and themes within storytelling? Needing to study specific elements of Japanese storytelling? Lol, anime is silly, we don't need brains for being silly nerds for liking silly things as we've been told by other people that it's silly."

I wonder why everyday that people outwest can't make anime? They cling onto shithead mentalities like this and become gall-less bottom feeders who never stand up for themselves and do anything remotely outstanding and fruitful with their lives. There's no sacred cows and anything can be serious business, but you go through life without a healthy sense of dignity and self pride, you're nothing but a bitch to anything weaker. Back to the point, this mentality was prevalent in the 2000s, when the same dysphoric minstrel enthusiasts made those lists like the JRPG and Anime Will Always Have These Cliches lists. Nowadays they're dying their hair in apomathic-tastic colors with shitty dyke end cuts, promoting dick chopping and grafting, closet pedophilia with anti-moe projection, believe all kweens, and going "woe is us for we live under the Fourth Reich of Trump", while siding with fucking over voice actors under thot made false allegations and making shitty parodies of anime. Fucking suburbanite peckerwood anime fans, man. Never in my fucking life did I think this would incite such dyphoria induced turnout wave of more weeaboo activity. And all over Dragon Ball-Fucking-Z.
 
A bit of A-logging, I can't stand "lolz we like silly anime/woe is us for we are weebs" shithead fans like TFS because they have some severe case of cultural exceptionalism where they can't approach anything remotely anime with general human interaction without going into their dysphoric self loathing or the other end of chunnibyou sperg nutcase mentality. When you do that, there's not only no respect for yourself, but to what you enjoy, and that kind of stuff passes on and becomes evidence in anything you do in life. "Basic analysis and study of elements and themes within storytelling? Needing to study specific elements of Japanese storytelling? Lol, anime is silly, we don't need brains for being silly nerds for liking silly things as we've been told by other people that it's silly."

I wonder why everyday that people outwest can't make anime? They cling onto shithead mentalities like this and become gall-less bottom feeders who never stand up for themselves and do anything remotely outstanding and fruitful with their lives. There's no sacred cows and anything can be serious business, but you go through life without a healthy sense of dignity and self pride, you're nothing but a bitch to anything weaker. Back to the point, this mentality was prevalent in the 2000s, when the same dysphoric minstrel enthusiasts made those lists like the JRPG and Anime Will Always Have These Cliches lists. Nowadays they're dying their hair in apomathic-tastic colors with shitty dyke end cuts, promoting dick chopping and grafting, closet pedophilia with anti-moe projection, believe all kweens, and going "woe is us for we live under the Fourth Reich of Trump", while siding with fucking over voice actors under thot made false allegations and making shitty parodies of anime. Fucking suburbanite peckerwood anime fans, man. Never in my fucking life did I think this would incite such dyphoria induced turnout wave of more weeaboo activity. And all over Dragon Ball-Fucking-Z.
Uh...this is a Wendy's.
 
I have no personal issues with any member of TFS (though Lani South Park punches down tweet annoyed me) and find TFS to be funny. But fuck me is there fanbase horrible. I've dealt with them for years going over them saying this is so much than the actual series and even though TFS has said they're not trying to do that, there are...........moments
 
I have no personal issues with any member of TFS (though Lani South Park punches down tweet annoyed me) and find TFS to be funny. But fuck me is there fanbase horrible. I've dealt with them for years going over them saying this is so much than the actual series and even though TFS has said they're not trying to do that, there are...........moments4.mp4
I can see with this scene how with Cell the DBZA turned more into “fan dub with a sprinkling with jokes”.
 
I have no personal issues with any member of TFS (though Lani South Park punches down tweet annoyed me) and find TFS to be funny. But fuck me is there fanbase horrible. I've dealt with them for years going over them saying this is so much than the actual series and even though TFS has said they're not trying to do that, there are...........moments
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Huh, I don't remember finding this so cringey the first time round. Weird.
 
Never watched them growing up nor got the appeal. That said, you'd think with how rabid the fan-base is, they would have a bigger following on Twitch. I often see them in my recommended tab and they are often scraping by about 100 or so views
When you get famous for one thing, most people only care for just that one thing. I don’t think TFS is unique in that regard.
 
When you get famous for one thing, most people only care for just that one thing. I don’t think TFS is unique in that regard.
Their gaming stuff was pretty bug for a while, they just broke it up too much first everything was on one youtube channel and then they added one just for gaming which was fine and then they started doing stuff on twitch and then they added another youtube channel just hold the long unedited streams while the first gaming channel was for more produced gaming videos. The whole things just kind of a mess.

Them playing BloodBorne drunk is still pretty funny, especially the part where Lani gets tazed.
 
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