Team Four Star - Creators of a bunch of stuff to make people laugh trying to figure out what to do after a decade of comedically retelling Dragon Ball Z.

[Bean5]

The rest of the Broly movie was pretty fucking good though. I think the hatred they had actually turned out for the better for once. Trunks getting bitch-made by Broly in more ways than one is probably what Kaiser was going for. Frankly he should've just stuck to humans/aliens rather than disgusting kid pedo-tier faggotry and degenerate bestiality.

No shade on it, i still enjoyed all their DB abridges, and im not even an anime or DB fan. Most of my DB knowledge is through osmosis via neighborhood 'emphasis on hood' chats or gatherings to watch cartoon asians hit each other on a projector.

Im no Fujo or whatever its called, but part of me wishes broly showed up as much as dende and earlier so they had more material ☻.

Consenting(?) Adult bara > what we actually got.
Aside from that, they were doing the whole beastiality thing for a while, i just chalked it up to a Mike and Molly or parody couples jokes situation, joke phrasing. I tuned it out more or less.

Tangent
Now that i think about it. didn't kick vic start when Vic didn't want to sign an unlicensed yaoi manga with broly?

 

[A Random]

The rest of the Broly movie was pretty fucking good though. I think the hatred they had actually turned out for the better for once. Trunks getting bitch-made by Broly in more ways than one is probably what Kaiser was going for. Frankly he should've just stuck to humans/aliens rather than disgusting kid pedo-tier faggotry and degenerate bestiality.

I'd rather have a movie that's nothing but them doing the "he's so cool but he's so dumb" than the fucking "Harder Dah-dee!" and "safe word" jokes.

Princess Trunks works as a joke over how much Vegeta hates his son and so he won't bother to correct any of the misunderstandings over his name [because Bulma's family is named after underwear] while that joke is just 'let's make a bunch of kid-sounding aliens into horny bondage slaves'. Which makes it a LOT less child-friendly.

I get that Abridged Series are mostly aimed for adults, but most of the first season was still stuff I could watch as a kid, while the later episodes just get worse about that.

 

[Bean5]

I'd rather have a movie that's nothing but them doing the "he's so cool but he's so dumb" than the fucking "Harder Dah-dee!" and "safe word" jokes.

Princess Trunks works as a joke over how much Vegeta hates his son and so he won't bother to correct any of the misunderstandings over his name [because Bulma's family is named after underwear] while that joke is just 'let's make a bunch of kid-sounding aliens into horny bondage slaves'. Which makes it a LOT less child-friendly.

I get that Abridged Series are mostly aimed for adults, but most of the first season was still stuff I could watch as a kid, while the later episodes just get worse about that.

Unsubtle Politics, sex/identities, inappropriate portrail of kids and ideology. Sounds about right for a semi woke, modern western family show for all ages

If you're referring to what i think with the bdsm, then yeah, that was a strange one.
Tho im not really sure what other route they coulda took with it either.

 

[A Random]

If they don't want to play it straight, there's quite a few ways to have the aliens be non-standard workers in odd conditions. They could be Astérix-style slaves who take the whole 'I'm a slave' thing like it's their job, with jokes like 'we'll complain to the Union' or 'that's it, we're going on a strike until they start whipping us regularly again!' and everyone acts like this is just a professional issue and not a criminal act.

There was some connection to that when Vegeta compliments Paragus for being a piece of shit who enslaved a race just to make a fake planet and named him his Grand Vizier. Could've gone that way.

Tangent
Now that i think about it. didn't kick vic start when Vic didn't want to sign an unlicensed yaoi manga with broly?

Pretty sure that yeah, it was a big part of that.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

Princess Trunks works as a joke over how much Vegeta hates his son and so he won't bother to correct any of the misunderstandings over his name [because Bulma's family is named after underwear] while that joke is just 'let's make a bunch of kid-sounding aliens into horny bondage slaves'. Which makes it a LOT less child-friendly.

Thought maybe it was a slight wink at GT where Trunks dressed up as a princess to trick Zoonama into taking him as a bride so they could get a Black Star Dragon Ball, and they could've returned to that if they were ever going to consider abridging GT by popular demand. But that's too smart of a brick joke and the lone faggot of the group needs his own soapbox.

 

[Jewelsmakerguy]

I think that’s just Sean. It’s been said here that Chris Ayers loved their take on Frieza, and IIRC, Vic Mignogna liked their Broly movie, and Chris Sabat not only loves their stuff, but also did the “it’s over 9000” but with one of the guys in a Nappa cosplay. And not only that, Chris Sabat is rumored to be the guy that got their foot in the door of actual dubbing (if not took them on as proteges), and is the force that keeps TFS from being ass blasted by Toei on behalf of Funimation.

Yeah, Sabat's probably their biggest ass kisser advocate for the group. Yet even he could stop them from being "greylisted" from taking part in any Funimation dub once Toei got wind of the plans for the English version of DBZ Kai Buu.

 

[5t3n0g0ph3r]

Now that i think about it. didn't kick vic start when Vic didn't want to sign an unlicensed yaoi manga with broly?

Pretty sure that yeah, it was a big part of that.

No, you're thinking of the yoai incest pairing between Ed and Al Elric from Fullmetal Alchemist.

 

[Allanon]

Good to know that everything i specifically hated was the result of one guy. The weird gay shit with Dende was uncomfortable the longer it went on, he's basically a child making adult sexual jokes at one point. Stop

DB fans can argue about if or if not Krillin is aweful or weak, but showing him as an utter whipped blanket started to drain the funny. Im also someone who is not a fan of Yamcha being a "fighter" and pummeled into the dirt but that's canon so

The whole,Broly movie episode with the "gay, interspecies man cat, wedding" was about when i unselected the bell notification. Unless i did it due to their podcasts about anime.
Sad times. At least they're not on fire like rooster teeth. Yet

Oh, I totally forgot about that. The Yajirobe/Korin stuff is also basically all Kaiser shipping again. Gay furry stuff = Kaiser.

The Broly parody worked out okay, but that probably because they spent so long fighting over the script. If I recall correctly, the "HE'S SO COOL BUT DUMB!" thing was mostly Lanipator's actual feelings about Broly. I think I remember hearing one or two of the TFS members actually enjoy the original Broly movie (just not the later ones) so they were able to balance out the hate for the movie that would otherwise have probably ended up with some Naruto Abridged product where the creators maliciously parody things they hate. From Kaiser's reports, Bojack was going to be much worse, because he saw it as no better than the Broly movie, but none of the team had particularly strong feelings to counter that.

 

[Bean5]

No, you're thinking of the yoai incest pairing between Ed and Al Elric from Fullmetal Alchemist.

Ah kk.
That's even worse lol. Vic has always been a pretty vocal Christian and a lgbt supporter, but i wish i heard his views on incest.

Could probably find it if i looked. I know he wasn't too keen on the Ed x Mustang situation after a while.

Who the hell asks a guy who happily prays with fans in an elevator and with them at the hospital, to sign their kink yaoi incest manga. That's just disrespectful

 

[Random Internet Person]

Bojack was going to be much worse, because he saw it as no better than the Broly movie, but none of the team had particularly strong feelings to counter that.

I think they said Bojack was the start of their feelings of burnout and they scrapped it because they couldn't create a script they were happy with.

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[Allanon]

Ah kk.
That's even worse lol. Vic has always been a pretty vocal Christian and a lgbt supporter, but i wish i heard his views on incest.

Could probably find it if i looked. I know he wasn't too keen on the Ed x Mustang situation after a while.

Who the hell asks a guy who happily prays with fans in an elevator and with them at the hospital, to sign their kink yaoi incest manga. That's just disrespectful

"Oh, honey, no." but he never needs to talk about it, because he has like one whole role with any significant chance of producing heterosexual incest fanart, and it's in the most blatant yaoi bait anime he's ever been cast for.

Fujoshi, at the best of times, have zero self awareness. Most the time they see VAs as vehicles for making their yaoi fantasy canon, and the worst ones thing it's funny or enjoyable to make the VAs uncomfortable by pressuring them into doing it. (The latter thing isn't unique to fujoshi - VAs are constantly asked to say uncomfortable things 'because lol')

 

[Xenomorphs Are Cute]

Oh, I totally forgot about that. The Yajirobe/Korin stuff is also basically all Kaiser shipping again. Gay furry stuff = Kaiser.

The Broly parody worked out okay, but that probably because they spent so long fighting over the script. If I recall correctly, the "HE'S SO COOL BUT DUMB!" thing was mostly Lanipator's actual feelings about Broly. I think I remember hearing one or two of the TFS members actually enjoy the original Broly movie (just not the later ones) so they were able to balance out the hate for the movie that would otherwise have probably ended up with some Naruto Abridged product where the creators maliciously parody things they hate. From Kaiser's reports, Bojack was going to be much worse, because he saw it as no better than the Broly movie, but none of the team had particularly strong feelings to counter that.

I may deserve the hats for this tbh, but I loathe that "OG Broly bad" circlejerk more than I hate the "Bad Dad Goku" thing (at least that one has some base to it) . Kaiser & Lani's retarded hate towards it created a big circlejerk against that film & OG Broly.

 

[Polyboros2]

I’m not a fan of DBZ, so I haven’t watched any of their flagship series apart from an episode or two that a friend showed me to try to make me a fan. I did recently watch their FF7 show, the remake and all of its accompanying commentary reviving my long dormant love of the franchise, and it’s kind of a weird project. The first two seasons are blatant parodies, sometimes trying too hard to be edgy, but mostly successful at being funny. The two seasons that followed are still ostensibly comic, but also make attempts at being genuinely moving, as if the creators saw BoJack Horseman and wanted to make that instead. There are times when it feels like it’s a straight forward retelling of FF7 with some jokes thrown in.

I liked the first Season of FF7M but for some reason season 2 seemed to drag unbearably, and it was around the time that Hellsing was completed and they dumped DBZA and I just kinda wrote them off completely.

 

[Random Internet Person]

I may deserve the hats for this tbh, but I loathe that "OG Broly bad" circlejerk more than I hate the "Bad Dad Goku" thing (at least that one has some base to it) . Kaiser & Lani's retarded hate towards it created a big circlejerk against that film & OG Broly.

What is OG Broly bad? That Broly was an idiot who only wanted to kill Goku?

 

[Xenomorphs Are Cute]

What is OG Broly bad? That Broly was an idiot who only wanted to kill Goku?

Basically they fucked up the one from the original movie, even more than the movie did. They made him an even worse character than he is & made a circlejerk around it, just like the "Goku is a bad dad" thing

 

[Fougaro]

What is OG Broly bad? That Broly was an idiot who only wanted to kill Goku?

I don't know how representative my opinion is, but I considered the OG Broly to be a one-dimensional character and his backstory to be pantsu on head retarded desu.

What is OG Broly bad? That Broly was an idiot who only wanted to kill Goku?

When they were still babies Goku would go on Broly's nerves by constantly crying. 20+something years later, Broly wants to take revenge on Goku for that. I'm not making this up.

 

[capitalBBustard]

What is OG Broly bad?

The insistence that Broly was the worst thing ever that is everything wrong with Dragonball and that he is also uniquely terrible that only stupid ppl like for no good reason and they're not true fans of DB. sth sth Z dumb fights, sth sth powerlevels bad, sth sth revenge for crying as a baby. Y'know, stuff TFS really pushed.

That Broly was an idiot who only wanted to kill Goku?

That's also a part of the whole shitting on Broly schtick, because in the first movie, the one people like Broly for, he doesn't really care about Goku. Goku just triggers his transformation. He says something like Goku got lucky because he's his first kill after he transforms and that's it. Now the 2 sequel Z movies are the ones where he says nothing but 'Kakarot'. Coincidentally they're both terrible with or without Broly.

The whole baby thing is an old meme shitpost that people who were salty at Broly being popular repeated so many times they started believing it. As in religiously, to the point where you can show the scene where he gets stabbed as a baby and his power awakens subconciously, and they'll still say that he wants to get revenge for crying as a baby and that that was the reason he transformed. Case in point TFS' abridging of the movie. It's the most retardedly basic thing too, Goku = memory of power awakening = power awakens again.

Edit:

I don't know how representative my opinion is, but I considered the OG Broly to be a one-dimensional character and his backstory to be pantsu on head retarded desu.

When they were still babies Goku would go on Broly's nerves by constantly crying. 20+something years later, Broly wants to take revenge on Goku for that. I'm not making this up.

Case in point. Ppl actually believe this shit, despite seeing the thing contradict them with their own eyes. That's the level of sheer retardation in fandom that got cultivated by being salty in 2006 on basket weaving forums. Ty TFS.

 

[Fougaro]

The whole baby thing is an old meme shitpost that people who were salty at Broly being popular repeated so many times they started believing it. As in religiously, to the point where you can show the scene where he gets stabbed as a baby and his power awakens subconciously, and they'll still say that he wants to get revenge for crying as a baby and that that was the reason he transformed. Case in point TFS' abridging of the movie. It's the most retardedly basic thing too, Goku = memory of power awakening = power awakens again.

I'll admit it's been a while since I watched the OG Broly movie (way over a decade and a half), but I could have sworn Broly having PTSD over Goku's crying was an actual plot point, not in the sense that it triggered Broly's transformation but that it kickstarted the plot. Broly getting his powers activated by being stabbed as an infant and Pargus raising him Danny the Dog style to ultimately get back at Vegeta, that I understand.

Case in point. Ppl actually believe this shit, despite seeing the thing contradict them with their own eyes. That's the level of sheer retardation in fandom that got cultivated by being salty in 2006 on basket weaving forums. Ty TFS.

If memory serves well, that seemed to be the sentiment even in the early 2000s before people were shitposting in 2006-era 4chan and TFS's grand conspiracy to discredit OG-Broly's character.

 

[UnclePhil]

I still laugh whenever I hear Lani's Vegeta voice. It makes me smile.

Aside from the ones listed in the OP, TFS dropped other excuses for not doing Buu. The characters are too different, story too dark, etc. The problem isn't the Buu Saga itself because so much is ripe for parody: the way it treats deaths even more arbitrarily than at any other point in the series, how Goku acts so casual about Buu wiping out the human race after Babidi dies, because it's all part of a grand master plan and who cares because Dragon Balls. The Namekians deus ex machina an upgrade to make the grand finale wishes work perfect. The Buu Saga offers plenty to work with.

The problem is that after their Frieza Saga, TFS stopped doing a quick and dirty 'abridged' parody and wanted to make their own dub. They got too preoccupied preserving fights instead of picking on them (the 17/Piccolo/Hellzone Grenade is a recurring puzzle piece throughout their videos, podcasts and LPs.) It was inevitable Toei would threaten them. And yes, Kaiser is a weeaboo sadbrains.

That said, there are too many good memories to condemn TFS for their latter day sins.

 

[capitalBBustard]

I'll admit it's been a while since I watched the OG Broly movie (way over a decade and a half), but I could have sworn Broly having PTSD over Goku's crying was an actual plot point, not in the sense that it triggered Broly's transformation but that it kickstarted the plot. Broly getting his powers activated by being stabbed as an infant and Pargus raising him Danny the Dog style to ultimately get back at Vegeta, that I understand.

Nope. That's the whole "repeat sth until you actually believe it to be true" being in effect.

The movie does have a really shitty way of presenting the flashback, the first half of which is the one where baby Goku is crying loudly and the 2 dudes are shittalking baby Broly for being scared, and this is accompanied with Broly visibly seething at Goku in the present for some reason. He looks like he's out for Goku and even attacks him at night too.

Then they show the second half a bit later baby stab and all then it's like, why the fuck was Broly angry at Goku when it's actually the suppresed power surging via a memory trigger and Broly trying to break free from Paragus' retardation headband? The moment he transforms and starts acting like a person he no longer gives a particular shit about Goku, until he gets killed by him. Then it ends on cryingbaby.jpg as he blows up lol.

It's a pretty clear joke to make at the expense of Broly. Y'know, like the Goku is a bad parent stuff. But that's all it is, a joke, it's not what actually happens, and people either forgot or never knew that to begin with. Again, ty TFS. Loudest voice gets parroted.

If memory serves well, that seemed to be the sentiment even in the early 2000s before people were shitposting in 2006-era 4chan and TFS's grand conspiracy to discredit OG-Broly's character.

Broly got Funi dubbed around '06, maybe a bit earlier I think, which is why I said it, it's a window of time I'm not quite sure of actually. Sans dates, I remember it was like a period when Funi dubbed vanilla DB and the movies were getting dubbed, and people were making and uploading AMVs and shit. The seething at Broly coincided with people who wanted to sperg about DB being great(muh characturs/creative genius/powerlvls dumb, same arguments back then too) being overshadowed by ppl liking and talking about Z movies, GT and shit. I assume all that would've happened around the time it got dubbed.

I don't know how you internalised 'people believing their own bs' = 'conspiracy to ruin broccoli".