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So me, my fiancee and my brothers get together to play rifts once a week. I know it's the second most autistic tabletop but it's heavily homebrewed and pretty fun because of it. My brother was playing a spell thief that could unravel magic and, whilst investigating a pile of seemingly ethereal gold in a peasants basement, he got turned into some form of magic energy. We don't know exactly what happened but after that he tried to unravel himself to undo that spell and unraveled his soul... He's making a new character between games.
Seems like he barely missed his chance to become your game's version of Dr. Manhattan.
 
So me, my fiancee and my brothers get together to play rifts once a week. I know it's the second most autistic tabletop but it's heavily homebrewed and pretty fun because of it. My brother was playing a spell thief that could unravel magic and, whilst investigating a pile of seemingly ethereal gold in a peasants basement, he got turned into some form of magic energy. We don't know exactly what happened but after that he tried to unravel himself to undo that spell and unraveled his soul... He's making a new character between games.
Bullshit No one actually plays RIFTS they just read the books for the batshit world building.
 
We never would have actually played it had me and my brother not listened to some of Infernocanuck's games of it, or squees, I dont actually remember who did it as that was years ago lol
 
Having become a pessimist when it comes to pop culture, I now expect several companies to bend the knee to the impotent shitstorm crowd and retcon races into oblivion in the future. Every race will become the same blandish "and they are really nice people, respectful of other people and their choices and prefered pronouns" with Orcs and some other usually evil races becoming -at best!- misunderstood noble beings with a rich albeit somewhat primitive culture, being vilified by white cishet men out of fear and hatred... or at worst, Orcs will be wakandalized* and become the good guys all along.
You vastly underestimate the power money has. At most, maybe WOTC will change it (because D&D has been their whore for a while now and probably is a net loss by itself that they keep around for licensing money), but, as I have been forced to point out over and over: WOTC is not the entire tabletop industry and D&D is not the only roleplaying game.
 
You vastly underestimate the power money has. At most, maybe WOTC will change it (because D&D has been their whore for a while now and probably is a net loss by itself that they keep around for licensing money), but, as I have been forced to point out over and over: WOTC is not the entire tabletop industry and D&D is not the only roleplaying game.
I'm not really talking from a DnD-centric perspective, though.
 
Insane Twitter trannies have a bizarre hatred for Mike Mearls, lead D&D designer (now apparently former lead D&D designer). I could never understand the exact reason behind this one, but it is vicious, insane stuff, and if you do a search for it, you will see it has been going on for at least a year all day every day.

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Good.
HE was one of the early "allies" of the SJW's and having them now turn on him and feast on his corpse makes me fucking happy. His idpol shit was hamfisted into D&D 5e all the fucking time on twitter.
 
I still have no fucking idea how on earth a person could have an inclusivity issue with a game where you can literally design your own campaign and all your characters from the ground up. If you don't like certain classes, etc. homebrew is a thing that fucking exists! If they wanted they could have a campaign filled with all PoC, disabled, lesbian trans true and honest women. I always play as some form of gay male elvish thing personally. What's there to complain about?
 
...male elves can be not gay?
Speaking of which, Gay on 1d4chan's 10-year-plus redirect to "Elf" was deleted ("Kracked Mynd" is a noted SJW, noteable for searching for various "offensive" terms and actively policing Slaanesh content, for instance, from becoming "transphobic.")
 
Speaking of which, Gay on 1d4chan's 10-year-plus redirect to "Elf" was deleted ("Kracked Mynd" is a noted SJW, noteable for searching for various "offensive" terms and actively policing Slaanesh content, for instance, from becoming "transphobic.")
This is incredibly sad. I've spent a lot of time on /tg/ over a decade ago, and it was a wonderful place without a speck of such faggotry.
 
Speaking of which, Gay on 1d4chan's 10-year-plus redirect to "Elf" was deleted ("Kracked Mynd" is a noted SJW, noteable for searching for various "offensive" terms and actively policing Slaanesh content, for instance, from becoming "transphobic.")
The best part is that the replacement page sucks and should be deleted anyway.
 
Speaking of which, Gay on 1d4chan's 10-year-plus redirect to "Elf" was deleted ("Kracked Mynd" is a noted SJW, noteable for searching for various "offensive" terms and actively policing Slaanesh content, for instance, from becoming "transphobic.")

Slaanesh by default doesn't give a fuck what you are, what you do, what you put into where all he cares about is:

1. You worship and obey him
2. You be as deprived and as a big a degenerate as you want in the service to Slaanesh
3. You shit all over The Imperium

That's it, that's all he cares about. Everything else is ruining the flavor by removing the depravity that he encourages.


And I use "He" in the sense that Slaanesh can be whatever it wants to be and I've read the material to be defined as a "him".

Also fuck pronouns.
 
Slaanesh by default doesn't give a fuck what you are, what you do, what you put into where all he cares about is:

1. You worship and obey him
2. You be as deprived and as a big a degenerate as you want in the service to Slaanesh
3. You shit all over The Imperium

That's it, that's all he cares about. Everything else is ruining the flavor by removing the depravity that he encourages.


And I use "He" in the sense that Slaanesh can be whatever it wants to be and I've read the material to be defined as a "him".

Also fuck pronouns.
I've usually seen Slaanesh defined as "she", like the token female of the Chaos Gods (and the female, sociable enemy to Khorne's uber-macho kill-cult).
 
I've usually seen Slaanesh defined as "she", like the token female of the Chaos Gods (and the female, sociable enemy to Khorne's uber-macho kill-cult).
But Slaanesh is also called "Prince of Pleasure/Excess/etc", she's explicitly hermaphroditic. I refer to him as "that creepy tranny God," but got cancelled on the now SJW-infested 1d4chan for doing so.
 
I have a world building question. In settings with known deities and afterlives...how do you reconcile that while still having people do evil deeds on the material world? Like if you know for a fact youll go to the abyss when you die, why would you do evil shit for the small time you spend as a living mortal? Wouldnt it make more sense to try and out good everyone else? I keep the gods in my campaign mostly silent and clerics and paladins rare so in my mind only the chosen or very scholarly would have any idea about the afterlife. Having heaven and hell be tangible fears in everyone's mind would effect people so much psychologically and I feel like its just dumb to have everyone and their mom know that worshipping Joyanna the Gold gets you to her merry fuck fields when they die. Why worship anyone else?
 
I have a world building question. In settings with known deities and afterlives...how do you reconcile that while still having people do evil deeds on the material world? Like if you know for a fact youll go to the abyss when you die, why would you do evil shit for the small time you spend as a living mortal? Wouldnt it make more sense to try and out good everyone else? I keep the gods in my campaign mostly silent and clerics and paladins rare so in my mind only the chosen or very scholarly would have any idea about the afterlife. Having heaven and hell be tangible fears in everyone's mind would effect people so much psychologically and I feel like its just dumb to have everyone and their mom know that worshipping Joyanna the Gold gets you to her merry fuck fields when they die. Why worship anyone else?
When I run Pathfinder, I try to give fairly reasonable metaphysical explanations for the appeal of the evil gods, and evil in general:
- I have Asmodeus and the rest of the hosts of Hell operate similar to a MLM scheme; the more evil acts you do and the more people you draw into the worship of the Prince of Darkness, the better treatment your soul gets in Hell. The idea of being a princeling surrounded by unworldly decadence and with thousands of slaves at your beck and call is extremely appealing to a certain class of people in contrast to traipsing around the fields of Heaven marveling at the beauty of every blade of grass.
-Zon-Kuthon (the Pinhead god of sorrow and pain)'s church preys on people who are depressed and feel hopeless; they affirm their belief that everything sucks and give them a way to take control by embracing the misery and using it to control others. The idea that the cost of this is an eternity as the slave of Zon-Kuthon isn't a punishment; to them, the hope that things could be good for them was the real punishment, and now that they're free of that, they feel no fear.
-Urgoatha, as the goddess of the undead, has a clearly obvious appeal; serve her and she'll make sure you rise as an undead to cheat the judgement of souls and continue enjoying the pleasures of this life.
-Norgorber, god of thieves, promises his followers that the sins they do in his name will remain hidden from even the eyes of the gods; this isn't true, of course, but his favored servants get snatched from their judgement to serve him directly.
-Lamashtu and Rovagug, as a demon lord and the Devourer of Creation, appeal only to the insane or to evil-aligned races, which are naturally wicked as a rule.

In a more general sense: why did people commit so many crimes in the Middle Ages, when most people seriously believed in God and damnation? To quote Hume, humans are not primarily a rational creature, but are by nature driven by their passions; rationality is often a tool to justify our passions, not an actual source of our decisions. You could give a mugger a thousand reasons why working a normal job would be better for him instead, and it wouldn't matter a whit.
 
When I run Pathfinder, I try to give fairly reasonable metaphysical explanations for the appeal of the evil gods, and evil in general:
- I have Asmodeus and the rest of the hosts of Hell operate similar to a MLM scheme; the more evil acts you do and the more people you draw into the worship of the Prince of Darkness, the better treatment your soul gets in Hell. The idea of being a princeling surrounded by unworldly decadence and with thousands of slaves at your beck and call is extremely appealing to a certain class of people in contrast to traipsing around the fields of Heaven marveling at the beauty of every blade of grass.
-Zon-Kuthon (the Pinhead god of sorrow and pain)'s church preys on people who are depressed and feel hopeless; they affirm their belief that everything sucks and give them a way to take control by embracing the misery and using it to control others. The idea that the cost of this is an eternity as the slave of Zon-Kuthon isn't a punishment; to them, the hope that things could be good for them was the real punishment, and now that they're free of that, they feel no fear.
-Urgoatha, as the goddess of the undead, has a clearly obvious appeal; serve her and she'll make sure you rise as an undead to cheat the judgement of souls and continue enjoying the pleasures of this life.
-Norgorber, god of thieves, promises his followers that the sins they do in his name will remain hidden from even the eyes of the gods; this isn't true, of course, but his favored servants get snatched from their judgement to serve him directly.
-Lamashtu and Rovagug, as a demon lord and the Devourer of Creation, appeal only to the insane or to evil-aligned races, which are naturally wicked as a rule.

In a more general sense: why did people commit so many crimes in the Middle Ages, when most people seriously believed in God and damnation? To quote Hume, humans are not primarily a rational creature, but are by nature driven by their passions; rationality is often a tool to justify our passions, not an actual source of our decisions. You could give a mugger a thousand reasons why working a normal job would be better for him instead, and it wouldn't matter a whit.
It can also be said that mortals have no idea what eternity actually means. They are shortsighted by nature.
 
I think for an evil character, the idea might be to not only game the system of the afterlife (being so evil that you will be able to reign in hell, instead of serving in heaven) but also to accumulate so much power, wealth and whores during his evil lifetime, that he's at least got a bit of a headstart in the debauchery department.

The very concept of "evil" is sort of flawed, it would be more precise to call it "egotistical", since one who is egotistical is working for his own benefit, whereas someone who is "good" is working for the greater good and the benefit of the majority.

Being evil just for being evil's sake is sort of boring. The best "evil" characters are those that don't even realize that what they do is bad, the ones that rationalize they are doing good things.

Wanna know how the inquisition reconciled the torture and murder of potentially innocent people with their conciousness? Pretty easily:
If the person is guilty, it is not only just to torture and kill them, but you are doing them a favor by purifying them and helping them to enter heaven.
If the person is innocent, you have not committed a sin or crime, you acted out of fear for their eternal souls. The torture and murder will make them martyrs, so they are actually benefiitting from the terrible things you did to them.

A moral system that means you are the good guy for killing, unrelated to whether the other person was guilty or innocent, that is what I think of when I think "evil".
The guy that kicks a puppy on his way home after closing down an orphanage and rubbing his hands over making some money, that's just an asshole.
Someone who's going to hammer red hot nails into the hands of a screaming, pleading, crying woman, whom he later realizes was not a witch (cause she didn't survive being submerged in water after he tortured a confession of witchcraft out of her), who then goes home to pray to god, thanking him for guiding his hand for a job well done... that is fucking evil.

And the most evil guy in that scenario isn't even the guy that killed some poor woman, it's the guy who invented the system to corrupt the person to kill others.
Kinda weird to point it out, but the priest character Mozgus from Berserk is a perfect example of this. He's not the one who's come up with the system to torture people, but he is a highranking priest who perpetuates it, thinking that his torturers are doing good deeds by mutilating and killing people.
 
I think for an evil character, the idea might be to not only game the system of the afterlife (being so evil that you will be able to reign in hell, instead of serving in heaven) but also to accumulate so much power, wealth and whores during his evil lifetime, that he's at least got a bit of a headstart in the debauchery department.

The very concept of "evil" is sort of flawed, it would be more precise to call it "egotistical", since one who is egotistical is working for his own benefit, whereas someone who is "good" is working for the greater good and the benefit of the majority.

Being evil just for being evil's sake is sort of boring. The best "evil" characters are those that don't even realize that what they do is bad, the ones that rationalize they are doing good things.

Wanna know how the inquisition reconciled the torture and murder of potentially innocent people with their conciousness? Pretty easily:
If the person is guilty, it is not only just to torture and kill them, but you are doing them a favor by purifying them and helping them to enter heaven.
If the person is innocent, you have not committed a sin or crime, you acted out of fear for their eternal souls. The torture and murder will make them martyrs, so they are actually benefiitting from the terrible things you did to them.

A moral system that means you are the good guy for killing, unrelated to whether the other person was guilty or innocent, that is what I think of when I think "evil".
The guy that kicks a puppy on his way home after closing down an orphanage and rubbing his hands over making some money, that's just an asshole.
Someone who's going to hammer red hot nails into the hands of a screaming, pleading, crying woman, whom he later realizes was not a witch (cause she didn't survive being submerged in water after he tortured a confession of witchcraft out of her), who then goes home to pray to god, thanking him for guiding his hand for a job well done... that is fucking evil.

And the most evil guy in that scenario isn't even the guy that killed some poor woman, it's the guy who invented the system to corrupt the person to kill others.
Kinda weird to point it out, but the priest character Mozgus from Berserk is a perfect example of this. He's not the one who's come up with the system to torture people, but he is a highranking priest who perpetuates it, thinking that his torturers are doing good deeds by mutilating and killing people.
I mean, that's kind of true, but also somewhat irrelevant in a system where morality is an objective metaphysical force instead of a personal sense.
 
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