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The Weimar Republic would like a word.
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There's a reason "German Scheiße porn" was a thing decades ago afterall.
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That is clearly the intention, but I don't think it has any real staying power. The people who've kept it afloat for fifty years aren't the gay baking dwarf tourists, they're the morlocks who can debate for an hour on some pointless wrinkle of the rules. As soon as whatever amount of trendiness has popped up around D&D fizzles out, the tourists are going to fuck right off ASAP.
You say that, yet it's fizzled out twice before we had gay barista dwarves and mexican orcs(I guess saying it fizzled out due to TSR going bankrupt isn't quite right, that was due shitty mismanagement not the content and game itself).
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They’ve put so much effort into trying to pander to and platform black people that it starts to show their desperation. You have to remember WotC is made up of white west coast best coast progressive liberals who get all of their understanding of foreign culture from Disney. They’ll always double down on this and continue to until they eventually mothball everything.
It’s annoying because so much of the demographic they’re desperately trying to appeal to as a lifestyle brand aren’t just annoying theater kids. That’s not bad enough, they’re also fags and troons who’ll complain about things like having too much combat or conflict within the game and not enough roleplaying and social situations. They have to also control how others enjoy escapism while shoehorning in RL politics and idpol.
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Because I've been on the internet a while. I remember when "yiff in hell furfag" was a funny meme, then overstayed it's welcome, then normies got a hold of it, and now I see it crop up occasionally even though the horse is so dead people are just beating dust at this point.
And as said many times. I've never had an issue with furries when it comes to DnD. History buffs who keep whining about how their HEMA techniques couldn't possibly fail, grognards complaining about setting details, even a sperg who literally punched himself in the face when I wouldn't give him free re-rolls. Yes. But furries? Most of their characters are beast races like tabaxi, kitsune, and kenku, and that's about it. Fuck, give me the wolfkin monk over the brooding loner edgelord that the party has to convince to stay every other session.
Not to beat my own dead horse, but I still fail to understand how playing a minotaur in planescape is "metal as fuck", but dragonborn are "lame and gay" or "freakshit".
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Pardon me for asking, but is this referring to any specific incident or is this just a generalization of WoTC's bullshit? It sounds too oddly specific to be random and it's gotten me curious as I haven't really been keeping up with D&D ever since the OGL stuff.
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Part of the promotion for D&D 2024 was showcasing a lot of art, which included a gay dwarf couple, a lesbian couple made up of a drow and high elf and mexican orcs.
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It's not just the art. There have been a few modules/adventures about this kind of thing. I've not read them, but supposedly there was a not harry potter book which included an adventure where you go to prom. Another (Radiant Citadel) was wakanda where the writers try (and fail) to justify their black communist utopia and write various safeguards to prevent it being steamrolled by players.
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See here I thought Baldur's Gate 3 shoving a Deviantart-tier lesbian relationship in your face in every playthrough where you don't kill Isobel was a questionable decision but at least that had writing (as asininely written as it was) and gameplay opportunities and at least Aylin was kinda cool. Not to mention you could just murder them. This is just... I don't know.
When I was a wee lad unsupervised on the internet, I actually went into those roleplay chatrooms (such as the ones on iScribble) that had a barista or coffee shop theme. This was way back in 2008. I never actually did any serious writing in there because all I wanted to do was RP myself killing people and being a general pain, but there was one thing I noticed that was a trend in those kinds of RPs. There were loads and loads and loads of paragraphs where a lot was being written but close to fucking nothing was happening. The people who actually go there don't roleplay. They don't wanna tell a story. They just want to spend a whole evening making their OCs traumadump and then maybe have sex in a private chat.
I'm not sure what a company like WotC has to gain from pandering to these types specifically. They don't like the game aspect and they also don't actually roleplay. So why bother...?
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This is one of the reasons why people get annoyed if you suggest they try finding a group online to play, because they immediately associate it with "So you want me to play with toasterfuckers?"
There is a lot of degenerates in online gaming circles but I'm optimistic with some time and effort you can cut through the bullshit especially since a lot of people are upfront with what they're looking for broadly in games. LGBT flags and furry shit is a big giveaway and you know depending on what type of audiences certain games attract, for example you're more likely to find rightwing or apolitical people playing 2E AD&D than if you're looking for people to play Monster Hearts or Dungeon Bitches with.
Because it doesn't just stop at someone wanting to play a dragonborn, if it did then no one would care. It's when you find out it's their fursona because they act like a vegan about it that it becomes a problem.
Money. WotC has a subscription service, crossovers with MTG, licensed lines of minis, licensed lines of plushies, officially licensed clothing and merch(clothes, dice trays, slippers, etc. https://heroesvillains.com/collections/dungeons-dragons ) , wanted to sell tie-in merch for the D&D movie, licensed video games, boardgame versions of some of their adventures, funko pops, dice/water bottles/etc. https://www.merchoid.com/brand/dungeons-and-dragons/ the list goes on and on. Fuck, they even tried a streaming TV service thing with a bunch of paid celebrity appearances that immediately flopped the day it launched a couple years back.
They see D&D as a potential lifestyle brand and perpetual money machine because their target audience loves to consoom slop.
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I hated when they pushed for their own line of miniatures around 3.5, especially since they were so terrible back then.
Modern nerd culture is just consoomerism.
They’re shameless paypigs, they love to spend money and consoom. Think about the source books and modules, who’s going to buy those? The DM usually is the only one that buys those. Officially licensed dice? Crappy wizkids minis and accessories? You can guarantee there’s going to be people buying those, unless they’re using some form of digital medium. In that case, they sell services in order to milk them, especially when you have spergs who have to have fully detailed maps and a piece with their OC avatar on it. That’s where the money’s coming from now.
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Yeah I think the only way we see any sort of real change from WotC nee Hasbro is if someone comes in with some sort of massively based product and eats their lunch and demonstrates conclusively that rainbow fag pandering is hurting profits.
The odds of this is about zero, as the distant #2 is Pozzo.
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There's no business logic behind the wokeshit. Woketards have taken over WotC, and this is just what they do. They put fag flags and terrible art on things and write utterly retarded stories. It doesn't go deeper than that.
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WotC is staffed by those people.
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It’s casting a net for the wokeshit consoomers like the ones that respond “I’ll buy two copies” in response to people who say they won’t be buying their shit.
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We've seen it over and over again in brand after brand. The millenial response is to do the mental gymnastics to convince themselves of the popularity of their ideas and then work to implement them in everything that they touch, those ideas being some form of gay, race communism and when it all, inevitably goes to shit? Well, they'd rather choke down shards of broken glass than admit that they made a mistake.
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Nobody's got a market report showing that the TAM of wokies is billions of dollars and concluding, "You know, if we just go hard at gay prom, we win." There just aren't that many politically-motivated buyers. It isn't about the politics themselves, in the broad consumer marketplace maybe half a percent buy stuff based on the perceived politics of it. If you want to make the big bux, you have to appeal to normies.
WotC already knows what appeals to normies. It's just the 2014 release of D&D 5e. The problem is, breaking sales records with adventures about killing dragon goddesses and stopping demon invasions doesn't tickle the political sensibilities of the aging twink who makes the real decisions, Jeremy Crawford.
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Well, there's a little deeper than that. ESG initiatives giving cheap or even free money to cover the losses of these projects. As well as the not completely false idea that consoomers will buy shit with sugar on top if you put the correct logo on it.
"The DnD nerds will buy it no matter what we do, and we'll get extra customers from the black/gay/alphabet community if we do this! And if it doesn't work, we can write off those ESG loans and grants."