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strawberry15 said:
Christian fathers like Origenes
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Origin was a condemned heretic, not a church father, even if some of his writings are good.
AnOminous said:
Call of Cthulhu campaigns
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I've never had a call of Cthulhu game last more than 8 sessions. Even VtM is easier to run long term. Is it possible to do a long term Campaign with it?
AnOminous said:
I'd literally prefer to do goddamn anything than play 5e with anyone. Like, I'd prefer to scrape off my face with a cheese grater.
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The 5e essentials kit, dragons on icespire peak is a good starting adventure set for $20. I'd rather run anything else but for a total newb it's pretty good.
Ghostse said:
D20 Satan is far from antagonistic to the good side of the pantheon; on the contrary, he's such a huge believer in Good that he is willing to wade into a realm of eternal fire and pain to make sure the the sinners are being tortured sufficiently and correctly,
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So long as the ultimate evil is orchestrating evil out of some kind of spite or pettiness, that's what makes it.
 
Fuck Bankers said:
Origin was a condemned heretic, not a church father, even if some of his writings are good.
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The neoplatonic synthesis, which defined Christianity for the next 13 centuries, was spearheaded by him. He might have been later condemned, but he was as influential as Augustine or Aquinas, perhaps moreso given his formative role. Purgatory, which is foundational to Catholicism, owes a lot to Origen.
 
Fuck Bankers said:
I've never had a call of Cthulhu game last more than 8 sessions. Even VtM is easier to run long term. Is it possible to do a long term Campaign with it?
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Yes, I actually had a five year long campaign with CoC. The players were resourceful and figured out ways of actually surviving such a horrifically awful world where the end of the world was always on the table. I have gone into this in detail before but they actually pooled resources so they'd actually keep money from when the members of the party inevitably died, to the point the organization they put together was ridiculously rich and powerful.

The main wizard behind this was an accountant.

The party ultimately got ended not by the eldritch, but by the IRS.
 
The Ugly One said:
The neoplatonic synthesis, which defined Christianity for the next 13 centuries, was spearheaded by him. He might have been later condemned, but he was as influential as Augustine or Aquinas, perhaps moreso given his formative role. Purgatory, which is foundational to Catholicism, owes a lot to Origen.
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I know this is off topic, I promise this will be my last sperg post on the matter. The church would claim a major early church father that used some platonic language to describe theology was St. Dionysus the Areopagite. According to the church St Dionysus was converted by St. Paul in Acts. Not that there was a synthesis but that these mental tools were used to describe already existing structures within scripture.

You could even argue platonic language was used as far back as Philo before Christ's birth
 
Fuck Bankers said:
The church would claim a major early church father that used some platonic language to describe theology was St. Dionysus the Areopagite. According to the church St Dionysus was converted by St. Paul in Acts. Not that there was a synthesis but that these mental tools were used to describe already existing structures within scripture.
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The works of "Dionysius the Areopagite" are forgeries that date to 200-300 years after time of Origen. Origen's the prime mover on this stuff.
 
Fuck Bankers said:
According to the church or atheist textual scholars? Because as a Christian I trust the Church more than atheist textual scholars.
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The Catholic Church has no dogma on the date of Theologia mystica's publication. However, Catholic scholars have agreed since the early 20th century that this and other works date to no earlier than the mid-fifth century.

You know how you can immediately tell, from the language alone, that CS Lewis's Mere Christianity wasn't written in the 1500s because the English of 1944 and the English of 1544 are so different? Same with the Corpus Areopagitum. It's written in 5th-century language and is full of 5th-century ideas.
 
Fuck Bankers said:
gin was a condemned heretic, not a church father, even if some of his writings are good.
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Tell that to the late Pope XVI. Benedictus. His Holiness calls him a chuch father.
All the editions of the collections from the sermons and writings of the chuch fathers also includes Origenes as well. Most of them are published by the chuches in europe and asia. While i am aware of the condemnation of Origenes i never saw a believer calling him a heretic until today. I you wish to discuss this matter i can sent you a DM.
 
The Ugly One said:
Catholic scholars
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strawberry15 said:
Tell that to the late Pope XVI. Benedictus. His Holiness calls him a chuch father.
All the editions of the collections from the sermons and writings of the chuch fathers also includes Origenes as well. Most of them are published by the chuches in europe and asia. While i am aware of the condemnation of Origenes i never saw a believer calling him a heretic until today. I you wish to discuss this matter i can sent you a DM.
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I'm not a schismatic papist.

Origin believed that all people were going to heaven. This is obviously not true if you've read Luke 16:19-31 or Philippians 2:12. Even worse he is claiming knowledge of God's essence, which no man knows.


Wizards is seething at YouTubers making fun of their awful game and art.
 
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Fuck Bankers said:
I'm not a schismatic papist.
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It doesn't matter how you try to spin it, claiming Corpus Areopagitum was written in the 1st century is as silly as claiming the Les Miserables Broadway musical was written by Hans Schutze. The Greek is 400 years too new, it's full of ideas and phrases coined by philosophers that lived in the 4th and 5th centuries, particularly Plotinus.

Fuck Bankers said:
Origin believed that all people were going to heaven. This is obviously not true if you've read Luke 16:19-31 or Philippians 2:12. Even worse he is claiming knowledge of God's essence, which no man knows.
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Origen had lots of heretical beliefs, which why it's just that much funnier how influential his theology was. You'd think somebody would have said, "This guy went deep into some seriously heretical beliefs, maybe his purgatory idea was wrong, too," but no.
 
The Ugly One said:
This guy went deep into some seriously heretical beliefs, maybe his purgatory idea was wrong, too," but no.
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Im orthodox. I'm not moving the goal post because you didn't understand what I'm saying. If you want to continue this discussion we can do so in my autism containment thread because this is a ttrpg thread.

Ultimately pointing to the authority of atheist or heretical textual scholars is an appeal to authority just the same as I'm doing.

Also orthodoxy never held to purgatory in the roman Catholic sense.
 
LovisXVI said:
How does this relate to tabletop roleplaying games though?
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A-U-T-I-S-M. That's how.
Fuck Bankers said:
Wizards is seething at YouTubers making fun of their awful game and art.
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They picked the cheapest guy who already was disliked in the MtG scene for his AI looking pastel piles of shit that makes older CalArt look good. They always preferred to use contractors since you can pump and dump those, and the choice of doing that is culling anyone who'd be worth a shit willing to play ball unless they were buckbroken cucksoomers. This is on them and I do sincerely hope they continue to refuse to acknowledge their retarded business decisions and abusing their workforce is why they're burning down Magic, and killing DnD.
 
Adamska said:
A-U-T-I-S-M. That's how.

They picked the cheapest guy who already was disliked in the MtG scene for his AI looking pastel piles of shit that makes older CalArt look good. They always preferred to use contractors since you can pump and dump those, and the choice of doing that is culling anyone who'd be worth a shit willing to play ball unless they were buckbroken cucksoomers. This is on them and I do sincerely hope they continue to refuse to acknowledge their retarded business decisions and abusing their workforce is why they're burning down Magic, and killing DnD.
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I know one that they scoffed at one of the OG artists that offered to do the Dragonlance stuff. I wanna say it was Elmore. Then well they got what they paid for.
It's all so tiresome.
 
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